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01-10-2012, 10:40 AM
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Weird Foot Pain with New Skates

I recently got new skates for Christmas, and used them for the first time this past weekend. I switched from my old Bauer Supreme one70s to Bauer Vapor X3.0 LEs and while skating is fine, when I am standing in them, I feel like all of my weight is being held up on my first metatarsal (inside of foot), which is pretty painful.

Is this normal when switching from the Supreme line to the Vapor line? Or will this go away once their broken in? I got them baked when I got them. I only skate once a week anyways, so not really a big deal, just curious. Thanks for any help.

EDIT: New skates are the same size as the old ones.

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Why did you switch to Vapors?

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Why did you switch to Vapors?
Old skates were falling apart and these were a gift. I've used Vapors before.

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If it's pain right in front of the arch and behind the ball of the foot, I had that when my skates were too narrow. I had them stretched/punched and they've been perfect ever since. It's a possibility at least. Hopefully more people chime in.

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Metatarsal... instep area? That indicates that the Vapor boot is too shallow for your foot, absolutely to be expected moving from Supreme to Vapor. It causes lacebite and no, it won't break-in and if anything, it will be worse as the tongue breaks down and softens over time.

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I recently got new skates for Christmas, and used them for the first time this past weekend. I switched from my old Bauer Supreme one70s to Bauer Vapor X3.0 LEs and while skating is fine, when I am standing in them, I feel like all of my weight is being held up on my first metatarsal (inside of foot), which is pretty painful.

Is this normal when switching from the Supreme line to the Vapor line? Or will this go away once their broken in? I got them baked when I got them. I only skate once a week anyways, so not really a big deal, just curious. Thanks for any help.

EDIT: New skates are the same size as the old ones.
I'm experiencing the same thing after recently moving to a pair of X30 Vapors. More so in my right foot. Even though i had them baked i think they just need to be broken in more. I've kept my lower laces a little less tight than the top ones and it has seemed to help.

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What width of skate did you buy? By the sounds of it, you have purchased skates that may be a little too narrow for your feet. A LOT of people completely disregard the width of their foot when buying skates. For shoes, it usually isn't a big deal but skates fit much snugger and don't break in as easily.

I have dealt with pain in the sides of me feet (although mine are the outside, opposite of the arch) since 14 or 15 years old. I have to buy "E" width skates. "D" is the standard size if I'm not mistaken.

You may want to look at buying some insoles for skates that are more forgiving in the arch area? I don't have a clue about this.

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If it's pain right in front of the arch and behind the ball of the foot, I had that when my skates were too narrow. I had them stretched/punched and they've been perfect ever since. It's a possibility at least. Hopefully more people chime in.
This is probably your best bet. While punching/stretching will mess with the foundation and stiffness of the boot, you can't keep playing with that pain.

You can try some different skate tying techniques. You can make it tight in the toes and ankles while making it snug (not super tight) in the middle of your foot. I've never really mastered this... Always feels like my foot is moving around a bit unless I have them tight all the way through.

If this pain is still around after 4 or 5 ice times, you should consider buying another pair of skates because it isn't going to get better. It sucks forking out more cash but foot pain while playing hockey can really take your enjoyment out of the game... nevermind hindering your performance. If you bite the bullet, make sure you have a knowledgeable employee fit you. The old guys in hockey shops usually know their stuff... they live for this game . Tell him your exact problem... you aren't alone!

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EDIT: ALL SKATE BRANDS/MODELS fit a bit differently.

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Metatarsal... instep area? That indicates that the Vapor boot is too shallow for your foot, absolutely to be expected moving from Supreme to Vapor. It causes lacebite and no, it won't break-in and if anything, it will be worse as the tongue breaks down and softens over time.
It's on the bottom of my foot, not the top (ie not lace bite).


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I'm experiencing the same thing after recently moving to a pair of X30 Vapors. More so in my right foot. Even though i had them baked i think they just need to be broken in more. I've kept my lower laces a little less tight than the top ones and it has seemed to help.
Thanks for the info!

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What width of skate did you buy? By the sounds of it, you have purchased skates that may be a little too narrow for your feet. A LOT of people completely disregard the width of their foot when buying skates. For shoes, it usually isn't a big deal but skates fit much snugger and don't break in as easily.

I have dealt with pain in the sides of me feet (although mine are the outside, opposite of the arch) since 14 or 15 years old. I have to buy "E" width skates. "D" is the standard size if I'm not mistaken.

You may want to look at buying some insoles for skates that are more forgiving in the arch area? I don't have a clue about this.



This is probably your best bet. While punching/stretching will mess with the foundation and stiffness of the boot, you can't keep playing with that pain.

You can try some different skate tying techniques. You can make it tight in the toes and ankles while making it snug (not super tight) in the middle of your foot. I've never really mastered this... Always feels like my foot is moving around a bit unless I have them tight all the way through.

If this pain is still around after 4 or 5 ice times, you should consider buying another pair of skates because it isn't going to get better. It sucks forking out more cash but foot pain while playing hockey can really take your enjoyment out of the game... nevermind hindering your performance. If you bite the bullet, make sure you have a knowledgeable employee fit you. The old guys in hockey shops usually know their stuff... they live for this game . Tell him your exact problem... you aren't alone!

GL!

EDIT: ALL SKATE BRANDS/MODELS fit a bit differently.
The skates are a 7D for size, which was the same size and width as my old one70s. Again, my pain isn't really on the side of my foot, its right on the bottom of my foot behind my big toe.

Thanks for the help folks!

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I had this problem with a pair of my skates (CCM) and once i had skated in them a few times i didn't experience it anymore, the question you have to ask yourself is:

Is it caused by friction? (example: they are loosely tied and thus grinding back and forth on your foot).

Is it to small? (example: it is a constant pressure there whether ur actually skating or not)

I had this exact problem where it was nagging behind the big toe but beneath my arch, i have a pretty high arch and chances are you do aswell.

I think having a high arch highlights that exact area, i've tried on both Supreme Ones and Vapors and i had the exact opposite experience of what your having. The Supreme's felt terribly snug and i didn't want to buy them because i was afraid of having troubles in the exact same spot as ur describing.

When i tried on the Vapors however they felt alot looser and higher in that area.

I usually wear a 7, the Supreme was 7,5 and Vapor an 8. So the Vapor did have half a size advantage but Supreme's still felt really snug.

Hope the problem is as simple as breaking them in.

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i think they're two different fitted skates.

I had vapours for a day and returned em cause i felt some pressure points.

i thens witched to bauer one70s and they are the best skates i've ever skated on.

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Metatarsal... instep area? That indicates that the Vapor boot is too shallow for your foot, absolutely to be expected moving from Supreme to Vapor. It causes lacebite and no, it won't break-in and if anything, it will be worse as the tongue breaks down and softens over time.
I think I've got the same thing on my 703's, and I think it's because they are slightly too shallow for me, as when I skate with them a little loose, they feel much better.

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i think they're two different fitted skates.

I had vapours for a day and returned em cause i felt some pressure points.

i thens witched to bauer one70s and they are the best skates i've ever skated on.
They are two differently fitted skates, you are absolutely right. Good on you for finding the right fitting pair!

@ Stickmata : have you ever considered using lacebite aids?

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If you're talking about the new Bauer Supreme One70s, a D width in them is actually an E on a standard scale. I recommend you go see a Podiatrist and have him see if there is an actual problem with your foot, or if you're just in the wrong skate.

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If it's pain right in front of the arch and behind the ball of the foot, I had that when my skates were too narrow. I had them stretched/punched and they've been perfect ever since. It's a possibility at least. Hopefully more people chime in.
X2.

Bauer 10-90's in a B width used to crush my foot causing pain right on the inside of the ball of my foot and a little behind it(in front of the arch)

D (regular width) Grafs and no pain in that area.
C (narrow width) Grafs and a very slight amount of tenderness in that area. I'm fine with it as I like the skates as tight as possible everywhere.

I do believe pain in that area can be caused by a skate that is too narrow.

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