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01-20-2012, 01:13 PM
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It probably is unofficially retired now, along with #9 and #3. Thinking about it I'm not sure I've seen a goalie with us wear #1 since Irbe either, though usually they wear odd numbers (60, 70, etc.) in camp unless they're a veteran signed from elsewhere to be backup.
1 isnt a popular # league wide anymore. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Luongo (I'm sure there are others). Is it possible teams or players think the number suggests that you are the #1 goalie? That's really the only reason I can think of that it has gotten less popular.

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It probably is unofficially retired now, along with #9 and #3. Thinking about it I'm not sure I've seen a goalie with us wear #1 since Irbe either, though usually they wear odd numbers (60, 70, etc.) in camp unless they're a veteran signed from elsewhere to be backup.
OK I don't mean to sound dumb here but I'm confused as to why #9 is unofficially retired. Howe?

Also, Irbe is one of my all-time favorite Canes, but no way can we retire #1, officially OR unofficially. I think it just happens that none of our goalies have wanted #1...

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It probably is unofficially retired now, along with #9 and #3. Thinking about it I'm not sure I've seen a goalie with us wear #1 since Irbe either, though usually they wear odd numbers (60, 70, etc.) in camp unless they're a veteran signed from elsewhere to be backup.
Correct - no Hurricane since Irbe and Storr in 2004 wore it.

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1 isnt a popular # league wide anymore. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Luongo (I'm sure there are others). Is it possible teams or players think the number suggests that you are the #1 goalie? That's really the only reason I can think of that it has gotten less popular.
Off the top of my head, I think you can add Hiller, Enroth, Mason, Hedberg, LaBarbera, Johnson, and Varlamov. I don't think it's *as* popular as numbers in the 30s, but I don't think it's popularity is really on the decline.

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OK I don't mean to sound dumb here but I'm confused as to why #9 is unofficially retired. Howe?

Also, Irbe is one of my all-time favorite Canes, but no way can we retire #1, officially OR unofficially. I think it just happens that none of our goalies have wanted #1...
Correct - #9 is unofficially retired due to Howe. While #2 and #19 were returned to circulation after the Whalers moved, #9 stayed out of circulation.

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01-20-2012, 01:53 PM
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It would take a truly massive pair for someone to use #9 in this organization anyway.

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Attendance after 20 home games:

24. Carolina: 15,040
25. Winnipeg: 15,004

Granted, they sell out all of their home games, while we're at around 80%, but still, nice to see...

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We've gone up a bit since then. Through 25 games:

20 Florida 16,699
21 Nashville 16,653
22 Colorado 15,291
23 Carolina 15,255
24 New Jersey 15,112
25 Winnipeg 15,004
26 Columbus 14,663
27 Anaheim 14,567
28 Dallas 13,129
29 NY Islanders 12,704
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Just to throw fire on that "Who is our top pairing" argument that was around a little while ago.
Not really, as you have to define "on the ice with." Gleason/Allen was matched up against Ovechkin's line while Faulk/Harrison spent a bit more time vs. Malkin's.

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Attendance after 20 home games:

24. Carolina: 15,040
25. Winnipeg: 15,004

Granted, they sell out all of their home games, while we're at around 80%, but still, nice to see...
But that's unpossible. Nobody likes hockey in the south!

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We've gone up a bit since then. Through 25 games:

20 Florida 16,699
21 Nashville 16,653
22 Colorado 15,291
23 Carolina 15,255
24 New Jersey 15,112
25 Winnipeg 15,004
26 Columbus 14,663
27 Anaheim 14,567
28 Dallas 13,129
29 NY Islanders 12,704
30 Phoenix 11,752
Epic LOL re: Nashville and Florida outdrawing them. Of course rather than give credit where credit is due the idiotic Winnipeg elitists will probably instead bash those two markets for not selling out every night.

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But that's unpossible. Nobody likes hockey in the south!

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They have hockey in the south? I thought they were all in Canada like that Toronto Trees team or whatever it is.

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To be fair, if they had a reasonable sized stadium (16,500ish) they'd be selling that out as well. I'm not sure why they built that stadium that small but they did for whatever reason. I'm sure it has someone will try to convince me it has something to do with supply vs demand economics, etc. But that only holds true as long as the team in new and/or successful and that goes for anywhere not named Toronto. And that includes Montreal as they've shown in the past.

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Winnipeg's wait list is something like 15 years. They'd be selling out RBC easily.

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I don't think we really are in a position to gloat about attendance. Winnipeg only suffers from a small stadium. Look at % capacity instead. Of the "southern" teams, only Nashville is in the top 20 and they are 19th.

WPG: 100%
NSH: 97.3%
TBL: 97%
MTL: 95.8%
FLA: 87%
NJD: 85.7%
ANA: 85.5%
COL: 84.9%
CAR: 81.7% (26th in the league)
CLB: 80.8%
NYI: 78.3%
DAL: 70.8%
PHO: 68.6%

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My point wasn't to gloat about our attendance and I'm not ignorant of MTS Centre's small capacity. My point is more that you constantly hear idjits in Canada howling for teams - oftentimes the Panthers and the Predators - to be relocated because of how poorly supported they are.

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To be fair, if they had a reasonable sized stadium (16,500ish) they'd be selling that out as well. I'm not sure why they built that stadium that small but they did for whatever reason.
Because at the time, it looked like Winnipeg would be an AHL city for ever and ever.

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I don't think we really are in a position to gloat about attendance. Winnipeg only suffers from a small stadium. Look at % capacity instead. Of the "southern" teams, only Nashville is in the top 20 and they are 19th.

WPG: 100%
NSH: 97.3%
TBL: 97%
MTL: 95.8%
FLA: 87%
NJD: 85.7%
ANA: 85.5%
COL: 84.9%
CAR: 81.7% (26th in the league)
CLB: 80.8%
NYI: 78.3%
DAL: 70.8%
PHO: 68.6%
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Attendance after 20 home games:

24. Carolina: 15,040
25. Winnipeg: 15,004

Granted, they sell out all of their home games, while we're at around 80%, but still, nice to see...
Never was my intention to "gloat," more my intention to make the point about ticket revenue. We always whine about it, but we've got a greater attendance than a Canadian team. Granted, they probably end up bringing in more money because of the demand, but they don't have any cap problems... Richer owner probably has to do with it as well, but just an interesting comparison, that's all.

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Never was my intention to "gloat," more my intention to make the point about ticket revenue. We always whine about it, but we've got a greater attendance than a Canadian team. Granted, they probably end up bringing in more money because of the demand, but they don't have any cap problems... Richer owner probably has to do with it as well, but just an interesting comparison, that's all.
My comments weren't directed at your post, they were in reference to some of the other comments made on this topic.

Regarding revenue, as you said, they have more demand so their ticket prices are considerably higher. I know the Canes are one of the lower priced tickets in the game (about $42 on average). Nashville is about $51 and FLA about $55. Winnipeg's are considerably higher ($98 on average). So even with the avg. attendance listed, their ticket revenue is 2.2X ours (and 1.6x FLA and 1.7X NSH).

If the average attendance remains the same, with the average ticket prices listed in the link below, it would mean that Winnipeg would pull in an additional $34M vs. Carolina just in ticket revenue over the course of a full season. It's pretty substantial.

Dallas really is hurting. With their low attendance and low ticket prices, Winnipeg pulls in $43M more than the stars do and even Carolina pulls in $10M more.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars...-ticket-in-nhl


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My point wasn't to gloat about our attendance and I'm not ignorant of MTS Centre's small capacity. My point is more that you constantly hear idjits in Canada howling for teams - oftentimes the Panthers and the Predators - to be relocated because of how poorly supported they are.

Ok. When I saw your comment "Epic LOL re: Nashville and Florida outdrawing them.", I must have read too much into it. Seemed like gloating that southern teams were outdrawing Winnipeg, when in reality, the only reason that is (even with much lower ticket prices) is due to arena capacity. No big deal.

Of course we'll have to give it a few years to see how this settles out. The first couple of years no matter if the team is good or bad, I suspect support will be very strong. It will be interesting to see how the team does 5+ years down the road, especially if they don't play well.

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Tripp Tracy is now on Twitter:

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is that account real?

epic if so.

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Yep, Mike Sundheim (Canes PR guy) confirmed

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Everything is happening. First Chuck Kaiton (@andtheletterk), and now @TrippTracy is on Twitter. Follow away!

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.... oh dear god. Tripp just went from marginally annoying to frigin EPIC in one tweet.

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Yep, Mike Sundheim (Canes PR guy) confirmed

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Everything is happening. First Chuck Kaiton (@andtheletterk), and now @TrippTracy is on Twitter. Follow away!
This is fantastic.

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As expected, Tripp's taken to tweeting like a fish to water. Still, some nice info being given out, if not somewhat irrelevant.

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He already tweeted about someone texting him.

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