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Should Marchand be suspended for his low hit on Salo (with poll this time!)

View Poll Results: Does Marchand deserve a suspension for his low hit on Salo?
Yes, it deserves a minor suspension (1-4 games) 112 30.43%
Yes, it deserves a major suspension (5+ games) 146 39.67%
No, the assessed penalty was adequate punishment 78 21.20%
Comedy option: It didn't even warrant a penalty, let alone a suspension 32 8.70%
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01-08-2012, 01:11 PM
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2 minute minor was all it was worthy of. Take away embellishment by Salo and it definitely wouldn't have earned Marchand and 5 + Game.

Mega "lol" if Salo really received a concussion to his thigh after the hit.
Are you that dense? You can't seriously have been brainwashed to believe that?

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I'm simply pointing out the double standard going on here, but if that's too complicated I'll try and dumb it down for you.
Very different hit. Marchand was coming at him to make a hit and he went low.

Versus Salo, Marchand pretended to have the intent of playing the puck, only to "surprise" him with a very low hit, resulting in a concussion.

We keep hearing that there is a lack of respect in the game today and as a result we are seeing wreckless hits that are resulting in injuries (concussions being the most noteworthy). The hit on Salo was a textbook example of having absolutely no respect for your opponent and his safety. He pretended to go after the puck in an attempt to position his opponent for a dangerous hit.

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01-08-2012, 02:06 PM
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I love it! Bruins fans admitting Marchand is afraid of Daniel Sedin, the little girl who isn't tough enough otherwise to be in the game...


Anyways, Salo is out with a concussion from the hit:
Wait what? Afraid? He did it because he wasn't going to do nothing with someone coming right at him at full speed. What is he supposed to do, just let him hit him? That's what the Sedins do.

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Probably 4 games.

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We keep hearing that there is a lack of respect in the game today and as a result we are seeing wreckless hits that are resulting in injuries (concussions being the most noteworthy). The hit on Salo was a textbook example of having absolutely no respect for your opponent and his safety. He pretended to go after the puck in an attempt to position his opponent for a dangerous hit.
This a million times over. If Braddy Poo PLAYED THE PUCK LIKE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO IN THE SPORT OF HOCKEY, none of this discussion would ever be happening, he wouldn't have a meeting with Shanny and maybe the Bruins would have won the game.

Braddy Poo should be so embarrassed with the move that he did. Why go for the questionably illegal hit at the knees instead of playing the puck? I just don't understand it. If he doesn't get a suspension for this hit and I was Claude J., I would sit him for a couple of games so he can think about what he did.

Gutless move by a shell of a human.

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01-08-2012, 02:29 PM
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He's the new Ken Linseman. I'll take a suspension once a year or so to have that guy on my team. It's worth it.

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01-08-2012, 02:37 PM
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I hate Marchand..... I put him in the Cooke category... But this is not suspension worthy, the dude was just trying to avoid a hit, he wasn't intending Injury to salo, did he bridge him? Yes... Was it a 5 min penalty? Arguably, but I say yes. Suspension? No. If salo isn't hurt here no one is even thinking about a suspension, or a 5 min major.

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I love it! Bruins fans admitting Marchand is afraid of Daniel Sedin, the little girl who isn't tough enough otherwise to be in the game...


Anyways, Salo is out with a concussion from the hit:
I don't think anyone could possibly be afraid of a sedin... No offense but numerous times I've seen them skate to the bench during a 5 on 5 scuffle while someone was tugging on them.

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01-08-2012, 04:43 PM
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Glad to see Marchand is going the self defence route

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"I think, in this league nowadays, with the size and strength of guys, everyone has to protect himself and different guys do it in different ways. In a game like last night when there's a lot of emotions and guys are running around a bit, you're definitely watching over your shoulder a little bit more and you want to try and protect yourself as much as you can. When you have a guy coming in on you, you have no idea what his intentions are and what the outcome's going to be. You're just trying to protect yourself in that situation."
Julien also seems to suggest Salo is taking a run at Marchand

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"So I think we have to really look at those kinds of things. In my opinion, if guys start protecting themselves the way Marchand did, maybe guys will stop taking runs at other guys because that's the consequences you end up paying for taking runs at guys, too. Who knows where we're going to go with this? I know we're all trying hard to fix that part of the game, but it's still there, and it's still not fixed."
A few thoughts here:

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01-08-2012, 04:45 PM
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Actually, I was hoping you would. What rule changed in the offseason to make this illegal now when it obviously wasn't before?
Intent to injure. Similar to head shots being called.

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Intent to injure. Similar to head shots being called.
The NHL is really tight about using the Intent to Injure rule. You pretty much have to run out there with a knife to get one.

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Glad to see Marchand is going the self defence route



Julien also seems to suggest Salo is taking a run at Marchand
Rats won't ever admit anything.

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01-08-2012, 06:08 PM
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Should Marchand be suspended for his low hit on Salo?
I think the comedy option should be 5+ games. 1 game at most.

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Hurting Salo should not count as a suspension. That should just be an NHL rule.

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Glad to see Marchand is going the self defence route



Julien also seems to suggest Salo is taking a run at Marchand
Aren't you a Mod? Seems like baiting right here....

But I'll semi-bite.

Marchand is 5'7ish, getting hit by someone 6'3ish. Marchand was technically protecting himself, because even a clean hit from a bigger guy to a much smaller one can lead to a hit to the head of [Marchand].


He ducks the hit to protect himself from getting absolutely wrecked in a huge hit. I hope he continues to do this. Every. Single. Time. If he were 6'2 and doing this, it would be pathetic, I give you that much.

Julien has gone of record to say he wants his players to protect themselves however necessary pretty much. And I agree, as a Bruins fan, Bruins players >> other player when it comes to concussions; better them than us. Especially after such devastating ones as we've dealt with between Bergeron and Savard, especially.

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He ducks the hit to protect himself from getting absolutely wrecked in a huge hit.
Like the absolutely huge hit he took in the same spot from the same player fifteen seconds earlier?

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Keep whining about it, doesn't change the fact that the rat deserves a long suspension.
Why? If you can admit that the hits are the same, why should they be treated differently?

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I could care less if Marchand gets a suspension or not. Whatever happens, happens. He plays on the edge and is a huge agitator and will one day get his ass beat by someone who decided to stick up for their own teammates, which most teams don't seem to understand the concept of.

What is the real strange thing here, is not that Marchand possibly threw a dirty hit, is the complete meltdown of 90% of posters when anything has to do with the Bruins.

Hits like these happen, whether they are right or not. There have been some dirty hits this season, and as long as it is commited by a player not on the Bruins, the threads get maybe 200 comments and fade away. If it is a Bruin, there are part 3 and 4's of threads, dozens of polls about the hit, people crying left and right. It's so weird.

It's too bad that none of the golden boys on your own teams haven't figured out that if they don't like something the Bruins are doing, they can,you know, ****ing DO something about it. (This does not include crying to the media).

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Hits like these happen, whether they are right or not. There have been some dirty hits this season, and as long as it is commited by a player not on the Bruins, the threads get maybe 200 comments and fade away. If it is a Bruin, there are part 3 and 4's of threads, dozens of polls about the hit, people crying left and right. It's so weird.
It's not weird. The Bruins throw more borderline and dirty hits than any other team in the league. This reputation didn't just come out of nowhere.

Anyways, I would love to see Shanny make a statement...Give him 5 games, and tell him that the next dirty hit he throws, regardless of the severity, will have him miss the rest of the season and playoffs. The guy is still young, his behaviour can be modified. Look at Downie...Gets a 25 game suspension in his first exhibition game, and his dirty play steadily decreased after that.

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Marchand will get 7+ because this is his 3rd infarction. He got 2 for a head shot and fined for a slew foot. A clipping suspension will almost round it out. He needs a spear.

The guy is dirty. I think it's funny, him and Burrows are the same player. Exactly the same. The only thing that separates the two is that Burrows has never been suspended and the only fine he got was for calling out a referee.

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The reason people jump on the Bruins is because teams have usually only one player on the edge. Boston's top players play on the edge. Good or bad the B's are the new Broadstreet Bullies and the fans and even players, ie Joe Thorton last season calling out Colin Campbell, think that they are getting away with more then the average team.

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It's not weird. The Bruins throw more borderline and dirty hits than any other team in the league. This reputation didn't just come out of nowhere.

Anyways, I would love to see Shanny make a statement...Give him 5 games, and tell him that the next dirty hit he throws, regardless of the severity, will have him miss the rest of the season and playoffs. The guy is still young, his behaviour can be modified. Look at Downie...Gets a 25 game suspension in his first exhibition game, and his dirty play steadily decreased after that.
I love Montreal fans... They never overreact to anything.

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The interesting thing is most of you advocating the play either didn't watch the game or haven't seen the full clip. Marchand clearly punched Salo in the head twice before he low-bridged him, which was a clear intent to injure. I've said in another thread I believe he will get 3 games, but should get 4-5. That kind of play cannot stay in the game of hockey.

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2 minute minor was all it was worthy of. Take away embellishment by Salo and it definitely wouldn't have earned Marchand and 5 + Game.

Mega "lol" if Salo really received a concussion to his thigh after the hit.
You want to take a look at a major embellishment? Take a good ****ing look at your username pal.

Who the **** gets a severe concussion then goes out and cheers their brains out the next game?
Thanks to Dr.Recchi for that, but if it were up to him Pacioretty's should just got up after that hit.

When you see guys like Crosby, Savard, Pronger... All having to end their season's because of a legit concussion, and then you see the Bruins make a joke of the word by even having Horton out in daylight in a great example of that that organization is.

Oh and can Claude Julien and Marchand show me three example of when Sami Freakin Salo has ever tried to hit a guy in what could be considered a dangerous position/

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How many games for this other low hit?

Really? I'm not going to say that is a clean hit by any means, however this is not a game after Marchand did his silly lowbridge act on Daniel Sedin (again does not make it right).

However, there are 3 differences.

1. It was not deemed to be clipping
2. It was not interference
3. There was no malicious intent (/Raymond doesn't have a history)

If Raymond had clipped a Bruin, while neither of them had control of the puck and clearly had the intention of flipping him.. then Raymond should get 5+

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