I don't sell everything as I think we have the pieces to be strong next season as long as we get some semblance of competent management. I would generally just look at the guys who have expiring contracts
Moen, Gill and Darche are the obvious guys to unload. All of them would have their use to a contender and in the case of the first 2, we might even be able to fetch as high as a 2nd rounder depending on the market around the trade deadline.
The big name though would be Kostitsyn. He's never going to be that game breaker we need him to be, and I think we should trade him at the deadline. If he plays well heading into the deadline we could probably get a first round pick for him.
Edit: I forgot Campoli was actually on the team. He's not exactly going to coveted. He is an offensive dman with no offence and even worse defence. I can't see any contender actually sending us any kind of asset for him, so maybe we could waive him and see if we can just get him removed from the team.
Last edited by Fish on The Sand: 01-01-2012 at 02:28 PM.
1. Chris Campoli - No brainer goes for the highest pick. Target would be a 3rd or 4th rounder if possible.
2. Hal Gill - Another no brainer. Target a 2nd.
3. Yannick Weber - Diaz/Emelin have passed him on the depth chart. He's kind of redundant with Subban, Kaberle and hopefully, eventually Markov coming back. I would take a 2nd for him but ideally i'd want a player in return...either a tough young stay at home type (Fistric, Petrecki) or a big forward who can play on the 3rd/4th line.
4. Mike Cammalleri - I would explore this option, but not necessarily willing to "sell" him. If there is a good offer to be had i'd certainly jump at the opportunity. Need a top 6 forward with more size and jam in return.
5. Travis Moen - I'd try to keep him. If he is willing to resign for the same deal ($1.5 per) then i'd keep him. If not then move him. I think with his rep you could get a 2nd.
6. Andrei Kostitsyn - He is what he is. If we can get anything interesting for him go for it, but if he could be re-signed in the 3 million per range he's not horrible value on a 3rd line.
7. Scott Gomez and Mathieu Darche - I know i know nobody would want them, but i'd certainly be trying to sell them.
Cammy: Probably the only forward that could fetch us something decent in return. Although he is dynamite in the playoffs I don't think that he's worth the money he's getting with his effort in the regular season.
Gill: If anyone wants a vet that can kill penalties, let's trade him. I didn't want him signed last summer anyway...
Campoli: Just trade the guy if someone is interested. Him playing over Diaz or Emelin is just ridiculous.
Weber: I'm not sure that he's a good fit here and he could also fetch us something decent.
The obvious ones are Moen, Gill, Cammy, Campoli, Kaberle, Gionta, AK and Weber. I wouldn't mind stockpiling prospects or picks for them.
PK and Price are the only two I don't want moved.
Others like Gorges and Plek should be kept because they are solid veterans, but if we have teams outbidding each other for them, it could become quite interesting to move them.
Guys like Eller, MaxPac, Leblanc should be kept as we rebuild around them. So, unless it's to package for a very big return, they're not moving.
Cammalleri for a draft pick (2012) and a prospect (projected top 6 forward).
This move will help us restock our system that right now needs scoring forwards. It will also clear up 6 million in cap space to help us resign Subban, Gorges, and Price.
Hal Gill for a draft pick (2012)
Gill is absolutely a guy teams will want for a playoff run. He's a playoff beast and a UFA at the years end.
Its unpopular but i believe you can only have one of Pleks, Desharnais, and Blowmez. Gomer is gone. So then you have to choose between Desharnais and Pleks. Both are simply too small and easy to play against and you need a true number one center who can lead a team. Neither are truly capable.
Kostitsyn i am not a fan of. Simply frustrating to no end. I dont see the true fight and willingness of him to win at all cost. He will score some goals but not someone id go to war with. I see a guy who is unfazed by losing.
Montreals entire fourth line is replaceable. Needs to be tougher, energy and capable of winning faceoffs. See someone like Konopka in Ottawa.
On defense, out are Campoli, Kaberle (just a horrible trade to take on the contract), Weber, and Gill. All just soft pylons with very little upside or bang for your buck.
Simple question, why isn't Desharnais on the list?
A lot of people griping about small forwards, yet we want to keep him?
Pkg him for something bigger.
Philly was in our situation a few years back and if i'm not mistaken rebounded the following year. No need to sell the farm, just the extra pieces. My only desire is that we have a capable management team in place with the long term vision in place as opposed to a group looking to save their hides at all costs
A little shocked Pacioretty and Eller have votes but Leblanc doesn't. Then again not really. Nothing surprising from people around here.
All three shouldn't have any votes. Its completely retarded to trade them at this point since its basically impossible to trade a young player for a better young player. It makes no sense whatsoever unless a team makes a really stupid offer. Trading them for picks is just unecessary risks and setting the team back a few years.
Chris Campoli ; He's expensive and he sucks (3rd round pick)
Hal Gill ; way too slow for the new nhl (2nd round pick)
Mike Cammalleri : He's too small for our division and have a bad consitency, i'll take a middle 1st round pick for him
Tomas Plekanec : I would trade him ONLY if we can get a top 12 pick or a top prospect/young player
Yannick Weber : I would trade him for a solid defenseman (defensive) or a 2nd or low 3rd round pick
Brian Gionta : Like Cammalleri, he's too small, he can't score, he shots from every fcking angle and he's a bad captain (according to me, right). I would take a late first round pick for him.
Tomas Kaberle : I think we can get a late first round pick for him or a good young defenseman, I would do it.
Scott Gomez : Nothing else to say about it
As much as Montreal should be sellers, i am doubtful that PG is actually allowed to make any moves at this deadline. With Molsons seemingly without a game plan for the future GM and coach, its gonna be really hard to be sellers. Personally i would be scared Molsons are just going to bring in another marketing type GM. A former Canadien alumni or someone with ties to the organization who fans can associate with instead of bringing in a new GM with new ideas and beliefs.
Chris Campoli ; He's expensive and he sucks (3rd round pick) Hal Gill ; way too slow for the new nhl (2nd round pick)
Mike Cammalleri : He's too small for our division and have a bad consitency, i'll take a middle 1st round pick for him
Tomas Plekanec : I would trade him ONLY if we can get a top 12 pick or a top prospect/young player Yannick Weber : I would trade him for a solid defenseman (defensive) or a 2nd or low 3rd round pick Brian Gionta : Like Cammalleri, he's too small, he can't score, he shots from every fcking angle and he's a bad captain (according to me, right). I would take a late first round pick for him. Tomas Kaberle : I think we can get a late first round pick for him or a good young defenseman, I would do it.
Scott Gomez : Nothing else to say about it
I'm pretty sure many team would give a 3rd round pick for 6th defenseman (campoli) and some others (cup contender) would give a 2nd round pick for a beast on the PK (gill). Weber is still young and can developp into a good 4th defenseman (3rd pick, at least). Gionta is a 2nd line forward who can put 50 pts in health and have some leadership, that's why he can have a late first round pick if Chris Kelly had a second, last year... Moreover, Tomas Kaberle had 2 first round pick last year (1st + Colbourne) and he's still the same player (he's doing pretty good offensively with mtl) and that's why he can bring us a late first, according to me, of course...
Carey Price, only player that will yield any decent value. The goalie position is important but the difference between an elite goalie and a good goalie is so small.
D Campoli,Gill,Kabs Weber
F Cammy Darche Gomez and DD...We need a number one center,trade DD Weber and either draft pick or young prospect to get that center.
Do people really want to trade Kaberle ? He's been great on the PP for us. Since Gill and Campoli will be gone next season, and with Markov;s future uncertain, we need this guy.
As much as Montreal should be sellers, i am doubtful that PG is actually allowed to make any moves at this deadline. With Molsons seemingly without a game plan for the future GM and coach, its gonna be really hard to be sellers. Personally i would be scared Molsons are just going to bring in another marketing type GM. A former Canadien alumni or someone with ties to the organization who fans can associate with instead of bringing in a new GM with new ideas and beliefs.
I don't think Molson can possibly think that the best thing to do is to waste this season, prohibit Gauthier from making any moves, and wait till summer to act.
He has an opportunity to sell assets, he can give the mandate to PG to sell his players. No point in wasting them all.
All three shouldn't have any votes. Its completely retarded to trade them at this point since its basically impossible to trade a young player for a better young player. It makes no sense whatsoever unless a team makes a really stupid offer. Trading them for picks is just unecessary risks and setting the team back a few years.
No one under 25 should have any votes. (Well Weber since Weber=Diaz but Diaz>>Weber but don't get crap for him) REBUILD: LET'S TRADE A SOMOPHORE TOP PAIRING DMEN MAKES SENSE!!!!!!!!!!
Resign Gorges and Ak if he wants to. (the way AK as been treated here I would get the hell out if I was him but whatever) if not TRADE is better than lose for nothing.
