After seeing all these close games this year that Danis has held the Barons in, do you think he's slowly playing his way onto the Oilers next year? Trading Khabi (probably in the off season) is certainly a valid option, and Dubnyk with Danis as a backup seems like it could be a great tanem for next year. Leneveu seems like a respectable choice to run the show in OKC next year, and can be joined by Roy or Bunz (probably Roy) to back him up.
I am a big fan if he plays well, and I am a patient fan even if he doesn't play so well. At least for another couple of months (although I don't want him up if he doesn't play well, then the OKC is the place for him).
Anyway, sorry if I labeled you too quickly but I am sick of the extremes in the case of Omark. Either you're worshipping the guy or you hate him. I am Swedish, and an Oilers fan for more years than I'd like to admit (I'm getting old...). Many times when I defend him I get the "extreme-pro-Omark" label, which is generally followed by a "ah, you're Swedish"... When I don't defend him I am apparently a hater according to some... It's just annoying.
It's just one player, if he goes, he goes. If not, happy days, since that would mean that he'd fill a needed position and to make the team better.
I'm really pulling for Omark to find his niche with this team. At the end of last season when he finally played the rw on the pp he was a great fit there. At the beginning of this season he had a fair chance for 5 games but didn't get the job done. All in all he's really had 12 games to show his stuff and he was easily good enough in 7 of them. For an Oiler and a guy with his limited north american icetime that's pretty good. And his ahl this season is going well too, he didn't exactly have incredible linemates and he's getting decent points.
After seeing all these close games this year that Danis has held the Barons in, do you think he's slowly playing his way onto the Oilers next year? Trading Khabi (probably in the off season) is certainly a valid option, and Dubnyk with Danis as a backup seems like it could be a great tanem for next year. Leneveu seems like a respectable choice to run the show in OKC next year, and can be joined by Roy or Bunz (probably Roy) to back him up.
I think it can work
I'd like to think that'd be plan B if they can't get a better goalie than Dubnyk.
btw, the fine people over at oilfans.com has acknowledged that Omark played with Belanger in his games before he got sent down. It is funny that belanger gets the blame when paajarvi was on his line, but not omark? Double Standard.
btw, the fine people over at oilfans.com has acknowledged that Omark played with Belanger in his games before he got sent down. It is funny that belanger gets the blame when paajarvi was on his line, but not omark? Double Standard.
Please let's not turn this into another Omark thread.
Discuss his play in the last OKC game sure, but let's not pull out the whole Omark's pros vs cons chart in every freaking thread where he is mentioned.
After seeing all these close games this year that Danis has held the Barons in, do you think he's slowly playing his way onto the Oilers next year? Trading Khabi (probably in the off season) is certainly a valid option, and Dubnyk with Danis as a backup seems like it could be a great tanem for next year. Leneveu seems like a respectable choice to run the show in OKC next year, and can be joined by Roy or Bunz (probably Roy) to back him up.
I think it can work
I'd be all for giving him a try for a couple of games at the end of this season. I think that he could earn that if he continues playing as he is right now.
Maybe he's a late bloomer alla TT, but without the attitude...
Please let's not turn this into another Omark thread.
Discuss his play in the last OKC game sure, but let's not pull out the whole Omark's pros vs cons chart in every freaking thread where he is mentioned.
oh look i posted a fact and you whiffed it away. Belanger was at fault for omarks play early in the season.
oh look i posted a fact and you whiffed it away. Belanger was at fault for omarks play early in the season.
Warning: off topic post about Omark's play early in the season.
PIT at EDM
Omark had 7.36 min ES TOI and 4.16 PP TOI.
ES line: PRV-Horc-Omark, PP formation: Eberle-Omark-PRV-Smyth-1D
VAN at EDM
Omark had 11.55 min ES TOI and 3.47 PP TOI.
ES line: PRV-Belanger-Omark, PP formation: Omark-PRV-Smyth+2D
NSH at EDM
Omark had 12.54 min ES TOI and 2.14 PP TOI.
ES line: PRV-Belanger-Omark, PP formation: Omark-PRV-Smyth+2D
EDM at CGY
Omark had 12.08 min ES TOI and 3.03 PP TOI.
ES line: Omark-RNH-Eberle, PP formation: Omark-PRV-Smyth+2D
MIN at EDM
Omark had 14.08 min ES TOI and 0.46 PP TOI.
ES line: PRV-Belanger-Omark, PP formation: Omark-PRV-Smyth+2D
Omark with Belanger (ES): 38.57 min
Omark without Belanger (ES): 19.44 min
Omark without Belanger (PP): 14.00 min
There's an approx difference of 5 mins of TOI for Omark playing with Belanger and Omark playing without Belanger. Noteworthy is also 14 minutes on the PP and 12 minutes ES with the 'dream team' of Eberle and RNH. In the games leading up to EDM at CGY Ebs and RNH had combined 4 goals and 4 assists over 5 games.
So yeah, everything is obviously Belanger's fault...
Fact checking is a *****.
On topic
Credit should be given where credit is due. Omark played very well when he first came down to the OKC and now it seems that he is able to keep that up despite being rusty. Credit to him, but can't in effect give him credit by discrediting another player who he actually only spent a bit over half his time playing with (about 55% of his TOI).
When he played here he was given the chance to perform but he couldn't make the best of it. Maybe he should have been given more time but there were other circumstances involved at the time (the team went on a 6 game winning streak at the time they scratched him).
oh look i posted a fact and you whiffed it away. Belanger was at fault for omarks play early in the season.
Look, im as a big Omark fan as there come. However i dont belive in blaming Belanger, not for either off Omark or MPS. Thats just making excusses. Belanger is solid on the D and win alot of faceoffs.
Sure he aint the best offensive player in the world, but Omark is in my opinion a player that should make players like Belanger be able s to tap a few in. Heck look at what he did with MPS last season.
The 5games Omark got wasnt a fair shake i do belive that. But i do not belive in blaming anyone else but Omark. He can be a difrent maker but he has to be it and show it concictently.
Oiledup have a poimt, there is alot of Omark threads where we can discuss Omark. This is a okc thread and i think its better we keep it that way. We can still discuss Omark in here when its related to the OKC. Him playing with belanger isnt related to the okc. Im not to blame anyone for going ot, am probably guilty of turning most threads into an omark thread
Look, im as a big Omark fan as there come. However i dont belive in blaming Belanger, not for either off Omark or MPS. Thats just making excusses. Belanger is solid on the D and win alot of faceoffs.
Sure he aint the best offensive player in the world, but Omark is in my opinion a player that should make players like Belanger be able s to tap a few in. Heck look at what he did with MPS last season.
The 5games Omark got wasnt a fair shake i do belive that. But i do not belive in blaming anyone else but Omark. He can be a difrent maker but he has to be it and show it concictently.
Oiledup have a poimt, there is alot of Omark threads where we can discuss Omark. This is a okc thread and i think its better we keep it that way. We can still discuss Omark in here when its related to the OKC. Him playing with belanger isnt related to the okc. Im not to blame anyone for going ot, am probably guilty of turning most threads into an omark thread
And the swedish propaganda machine rolls on!
i know it is making excuses, but it is exact the same thing people did with paajarvi that his poor point production was because of belanger.
oh look i posted a fact and you whiffed it away. Belanger was at fault for omarks play early in the season.
What are you on about? I have faith in Omark still being able to turn it around and become a better NHLer than most dare dream about but him playing with Belanger has nothing to do with OKC which is the subject of this thread.
There are multiple threads specifically about Omark if you wanna do some omarketing.
He was pretty good for the Blue Jackets back in the early 2000s.
Actually.. Yann was one of the next great Canadiens goalies.
Here's his write up on HF back from 2005.
"4. (6) Yann Danis, G – 23 - Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL)
Draft: 2004 Free Agent, Grade: 8.0 A
Danis had a great senior year with Brown of the ECAC in which he set various school and conference records and ended with him being a Hobey Baker finalist. He made the jump to professional hockey at the end of last year for two games. This year Danis became the number one goalie in Hamilton and was in the running for AHL rookie goaltender of the year. He showed some very impressive skills, including his positioning and ability to read the play. Danis was able to set a team record for wins in a season with 28, and he tied a club record with an impressive five shutouts. "
I've thought since he first got to OKC that Danis would wind up going somewhere else for an NHL job. He was very good statistically in his last NHL stop (NJ), and given how bad some of the backups are around the NHL I figured someone would snap him up at some point this year. Maybe I'm missing something with him but I think he's at worst a decent NHL backup. In the AHL he's a superstar!
I just noticed that YLE released another Härski's blog post just about a week ago. Here's a rough translation yet again:
Quote:
"Up. Down. Up. Down. For Teemu Hartikainen, this year started with bouncing between the AHL and NHL. He played 20 games within a month, flying well over ten thousand miles with numb legs. The streak was an emotional rollercoaster, filled with laughter and even tears. "My entire pro career's toughest month. Period", says Teemu on his blog (6th february.)"
Howdy.
It's been a while since I wrote my blog last time and now I definitely have some material to publish. A lot has happened within a couple of months: I've been playing up for a couple of times briefly and have travelled back down to play and spend some quality free time.
The rehabilitation of my injured shoulder back in December went really well: the estimated 6 week resting period was cut down to only 4, thanks to the good mobility and power reserve of my shoulder. I spent a good chunk of this time training off-ice and it started to get a bit boring - I was burning inside to get back on ice. Just before Christmas holidays we (management and doctors) decided to postpone my return after the seasonal holidays for the sake of gaining one week more of precious healing time.
The management gave a permission for Linus Omark and I to go to a little holiday trip to Miami. We didn't want to fly to Europe because of the huge time difference and long journey. So we headed to Miami with our girlfriends and after a while Magnus Pääjärvi had played his last games on the road and he joined us.
The holiday was great. We hit the gym in mornings and rest of the days were devoted to sunbathing and visiting different places. The weather was above 86 ºF the whole time and naturally the guys back in Oklahoma have had their share of good laughs at the expense of "the brown Scandinavian hockey players." We travelled the city with a rental car. We felt really great after the holiday: well-rested and clear minded, ready for the brutal end of a season.
The games started right away when we arrived back to Oklahoma. I was pretty careful with my shoulder - instinctively. Just when I was getting settled I got a callup from the Oilers organization which was quite surprising, to say at least. It lead to one of the hardest streaks in my pro career and my legs were just killing me.
It went as following: friday home game in Oklahoma, saturday's away game in Houston and then came the call up. I was playing an NHL game in Chicago in front of some 20 000 fans on sunday. On monday we faced Buffalo Sabres and lost (and minus 3 for me in that game, ouch.) We didn't play on tuesday but we battled the St. Louis Blues the next day.
All in all, I played 5 games in 6 days and every single one of them in different locations and therefore my skills showcasing fell totally flat. After the last game I was already on my way back to Oklahoma where I managed to play five games before they called me back up again.
This streak had a similar theme to it. On friday and saturday we were playing AHL games in Rochester and on sunday we played one more game in Cleveland. After the game we flew back to Edmonton with Lennart Petrell. On tuesday we faced the San Jose Sharks and next wednesday we travelled to Vancouver to play against the Canucks, and again, my 5th game in six days. And off to farm again, back to Oklahoma.
I think that, in retrospect, this January was the hardest month in my pro career so far. 20 games within a month. Sometimes I was laughing hysterically, sometimes crying. An aeroplane started feeling like a second home after flying over well over ten thousand miles all around USA. But what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. I've grown mentally and gained some seriously good condition after resting a couple of days.
Now I've spent last couple of weeks here in Oklahoma. The All Star break couldn't have happened at a better time. Time to get muscles and head back on track and head new challenges along the spring. I hope my game will flow from this day on and that I would still get a chance to display my skillset in Edmonton. Barons are currently flying high and we're leading the league in points. The spring shall be very long for our team!
I've thought since he first got to OKC that Danis would wind up going somewhere else for an NHL job. He was very good statistically in his last NHL stop (NJ), and given how bad some of the backups are around the NHL I figured someone would snap him up at some point this year. Maybe I'm missing something with him but I think he's at worst a decent NHL backup. In the AHL he's a superstar!
It's really the nature of the beast with goalies. There are just so many of these guys and when you have starters sitting around looking for jobs it doesn't get much better if you are back up.
I just noticed that YLE released another Härski's blog post just about a week ago. Here's a rough translation yet again:
Thanks! That's some interesting reading. I saw some loose comments from him previously with regards to being a bit worn down due to his tough schedule but it is always more interesting and giving to read it as told by himself. I knew he had it tough in Jan but I didn't really realize how tough it was with two stints of 5 games in 6 days and 20 games in Jan alone.
I am a big fan if he plays well, and I am a patient fan even if he doesn't play so well. At least for another couple of months (although I don't want him up if he doesn't play well, then the OKC is the place for him).
Anyway, sorry if I labeled you too quickly but I am sick of the extremes in the case of Omark. Either you're worshipping the guy or you hate him. I am Swedish, and an Oilers fan for more years than I'd like to admit (I'm getting old...). Many times when I defend him I get the "extreme-pro-Omark" label, which is generally followed by a "ah, you're Swedish"... When I don't defend him I am apparently a hater according to some... It's just annoying.
It's just one player, if he goes, he goes. If not, happy days, since that would mean that he'd fill a needed position and to make the team better.
lol. No, I understand. Just when I was asking, it might have seemed like a troll attempt. I myself am still on the fence with Omark. I don't hate him. Nor am I a huge fan. That's why I NEVER get into Omark discussions on HF. I'm fine either way.
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Originally Posted by Firenze
what has that to do with anything? I am not a fan of lander nor MPS, so no you cant play the nationality card.
Hmm. Just call it curiosity I guess. My friend is from the Boden, Sweden. I think that northern Sweden, not sure (don't know the geography. lol). But he was able to watch Omark play for his Swedish club his whole career. Mind you, he has not watched many North American games with Omark. And he constantly raves about him. He loved his game down there. Just wondering if you're the same way.
I just noticed that YLE released another Härski's blog post just about a week ago. Here's a rough translation yet again:
Thanks for that! I think we all knew that Teemu was playing A LOT of games in such little time. That's why I did not really expect too much from him in his NHL stints. 5 games in 6 days. haha. That's a lot of punishment.
lol. No, I understand. Just when I was asking, it might have seemed like a troll attempt. I myself am still on the fence with Omark. I don't hate him. Nor am I a huge fan. That's why I NEVER get into Omark discussions on HF. I'm fine either way.
Hmm. Just call it curiosity I guess. My friend is from the Boden, Sweden. I think that northern Sweden, not sure (don't know the geography. lol). But he was able to watch Omark play for his Swedish club his whole career. Mind you, he has not watched many North American games with Omark. And he constantly raves about him. He loved his game down there. Just wondering if you're the same way.
i am a huge omark fan, just because how he plays his hockey.
