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02-04-2012, 05:03 AM
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paajarvi playing bad in AHL right now, seems it might take long time before he sees NHL action again.

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I believe back in the summer there was a rumor of NYI being really high on Hartikainen. Sorry, no link.

Hamonic would be a great guy to target imo, though I doubt he is up for grabs.

Okposo is another guy that is interesting and really someone I could see management targeting.

Hartikainen alone would not get you either of those guys though, of course.
or De Haan.

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paajarvi playing bad in AHL right now, seems it might take long time before he sees NHL action again.
where have you heard that he is playing "bad"?

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where have you heard that he is playing "bad"?
I believe that Firenze is a bit biased on the issue of PRV.

Anyway, he had a bad game yesterday, as basically the entire team. If that game is the benchmark for PRV's game and for the question of call-up vs no call-up then it's clear that he'll have to stay down.

Then again, the game the day before yesterday he was really good, 1 assist and 2nd star after Danis in a 3-0 victory...

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where have you heard that he is playing "bad"?
he is not even PPG anymore

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I have to agree I am one of his biggest critics but Prv is playing to his skills down there and .71 ppg is not playing bad in the AHL

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he is not even PPG anymore
Not PPG?! He's a bust.

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I have to agree I am one of his biggest critics but Prv is playing to his skills down there and .71 ppg is not playing bad in the AHL
it is funny how people defend this guy to death even when he is obviously one of the biggest underachievers i seen and Renney has given him plenty of opportunities to shine, yet he never takes them.

And now down in the AHL he has one goal and in the NHL 0 goals.

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it is funny how people defend this guy to death even when he is obviously one of the biggest underachievers i seen and Renney has given him plenty of opportunities to shine, yet he never takes them.

And now down in the AHL he has one goal and in the NHL 0 goals.
Renney didn't give him any opportunities.

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Renney didn't give him any opportunities.
12-13 min Toi in NHL says otherwise. I mean, Anton Lander has less Toi then that but has scored goals this year.

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he is not even PPG anymore
So I'll ask again where have you heard that he is playing bad? His coach has given him good reviews.

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So I'll ask again where have you heard that he is playing bad? His coach has given him good reviews.
like the game earlier this week his team scored 5 with magnus 0p and -2?

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like the game earlier this week his team scored 5 with magnus 0p and -2?
Like do you have anything besides reading statlines from cherry-picked games.

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Like do you have anything besides reading statlines from cherry-picked games.
well to be fair to this other poster.. Paajarvi has been underperforming in the eyes of many espeically after watching Omark score at a higher pace. We did send Paajarvi down to get his 'offensive' game on track. PPG is more then reasonable for expectations from someone with a year of NHL under their belt with pretty impressive numbers. <being a top 10 pick also adds to expectations>

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well to be fair to this other poster.. Paajarvi has been underperforming in the eyes of many espeically after watching Omark score at a higher pace. We did send Paajarvi down to get his 'offensive' game on track. PPG is more then reasonable for expectations from someone with a year of NHL under their belt with pretty impressive numbers. <being a top 10 pick also adds to expectations>
His stat line was on par with Omark's on his first demotion. Since he went back down he hasn't been doing much offensively. IMO they should've left him down there to build off of his success instead of bringing him back up quickly, dropping his confidence again and then sending him back down. That said I'd give him at least another 2-3 games before getting too down on his lack of production since his return to OKC. Like another poster said he had a beauty assist and was 2nd star just 2 games ago, so it's not like he's been crap in every game since his 2nd demotion.

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it is funny how people defend this guy to death even when he is obviously one of the biggest underachievers i seen and Renney has given him plenty of opportunities to shine, yet he never takes them.

And now down in the AHL he has one goal and in the NHL 0 goals.
Please read my posts about him since he has come into the league and well before. I knew he was not going to be this offensive dynamo posters were claiming . Same thing early this summer about Lander after a short camp people were already wanting to replace him with Gagner because he looked good in scrimmages go read how bad I was flamed there as well.Both Lander and notsofaarvi will never be offensive players. They both have skills but lack natural abilities that produce steady points ,you can distinguish this very fast watching players.

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So with his production (or lack of), how long does it look like Paajarvi will be down in OKC?

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So with his production (or lack of), how long does it look like Paajarvi will be down in OKC?

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Please read my posts about him since he has come into the league and well before. I knew he was not going to be this offensive dynamo posters were claiming . Same thing early this summer about Lander after a short camp people were already wanting to replace him with Gagner because he looked good in scrimmages go read how bad I was flamed there as well.Both Lander and notsofaarvi will never be offensive players. They both have skills but lack natural abilities that produce steady points ,you can distinguish this very fast watching players.
what is an offensive player, 40 points? Because according to most Gagner fans those are very good offensive numbers.

I bet you both Paajarvi and Lander will reach offensive player numbers in time.

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You edited your first post sorry that is not good enough go rejoin Good user name btw winner.
Thanks! I am doing this on my iPod touch so I didn't check my post over.

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what is an offensive player, 40 points? Because according to most Gagner fans those are very good offensive numbers.

I bet you both Paajarvi and Lander will reach offensive player numbers in time.
Paajarvi will Lander most likely not but I will bet you they will never average what Gagner does in his career.

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Please read my posts about him since he has come into the league and well before. I knew he was not going to be this offensive dynamo posters were claiming . Same thing early this summer about Lander after a short camp people were already wanting to replace him with Gagner because he looked good in scrimmages go read how bad I was flamed there as well.Both Lander and notsofaarvi will never be offensive players. They both have skills but lack natural abilities that produce steady points ,you can distinguish this very fast watching players.
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Paajarvi will Lander most likely not but I will bet you they will never average what Gagner does in his career.
Changing your opinion of them so fast?

They dont need to average the same point totals of Gagner over their careers to be offensive players. Especially considering they are miles better defensively than him.

Gagner is currently a 40 point player and you consider him an offensive player. Paajarvi and Lander will both easily be 40 point players therefore they will be offensive players as well as great defensively.

Just so I dont get labled a "hater" I am not taking anything away from Gagner he was a #6 overall pick and was obviously drafted to be an offensive player he is proving he can be that.

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They dont need to average the same point totals of Gagner over their careers to be offensive players. Especially considering they are miles better defensively than him.

Gagner is currently a 40 point player and you consider him an offensive player. Paajarvi and Lander will both easily be 40 point players therefore they will be offensive players as well as great defensively.

Just so I dont get labled a "hater" I am not taking anything away from Gagner he was a #6 overall pick and was obviously drafted to be an offensive player he is proving he can be that.
Paajarvi might hit 40 points once or twice hey even Lander a couple of times it does not make them offensive players if the have multiple 25 30 point seasons mixed in. Dont know where you are heading with this and even Gagners 45 plus seasons I voiced he was underacheiving. You seem to be creating a senerio to put words in my mouth nice try. And let me emphasize once more Gagner is averaging 50 points per 82 games over his career not 40 and I really doubt PRV and Lander will ever get there .

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