Those are two totally separate events. It's not like management would decide to not get two AHL vets next year because they ate another $450k on Brule this year.
You could be right, who knows what their budgets look like and what they are willing to spend
Assumption by your part. And so what if he gets demoted after doing well? The NHL is a numbers game and if we are fully healthy he might have to go back down, not really the end of the world.
What assumption? You haven't notice that the kid had lost all confidence? Has he not been bounced all around the lineup and back and forth between the bottom 6, the pressbox, the farm team and now back with the big club? What are the assumptions on my part?
The team could have called up Petrell and O'Marra and been just fine, there was really no need to call up Paajarvi.
The objective from here on out this season should be to properly develop our young players because they are the future, this is not properly developing a young player especially one that is fragile at this point in his career.
As Bryan mentioned earlier, if Hemsky was to be moved then that would open up a spot for Paajarvi to earn a top 6 spot but otherwise, he is just keeping a spot warm until Eberle gets back. Paajarvi should not be viewed as a placeholder or as a fill in, he should be viewed as a key player moving forward.
Good to see O'marra and Brule get the callup. Paajarvi just doesn't make sense to me though. May as well call up Petrell and play Jones on the 2nd line.
So what does the line up look like now for forwards with the call ups?
Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Smyth - Horc - Jones
Magnus - Belanger - Eager
Lander - O'marra - Hordichuk
Basically I just didn't realize that Horcoff and Hall are so buddy buddy. Guess that can be a good thing or bad thing, depending on how you look at it. But if you are someone who wants him as far away from this team as possible and knowing that Katz and Co have a heart-on for Shawn, its another kick in the junk that the teams star player looks up to big Horc on nights out. Again it may be a good thing or a bad thing depending what your feelings are of Horcoff and his captaincy and position on the team here in Edmonton.
Then also personality wise in public Hall kind of caught me off guard. Eberle and Teubert were pretty easing going guys. Hall and Horc kind of seemed too cool for school.
I said this before in another thread that Eberle has that Doug Weight aura - that old school, blue collared, thankful for everything he has been given, works hard day in and day out and has humility. If you see "other" guys from the team hanging out you can't say that about them.
If this team selects Hall for captain in the future based on posterity it won't be as good of a move as Eberle. Though what do i know.
Years ago I would have went from Jason Smith to Ryan Smyth to Jarret Stoll (eventually) to Jordan Eberle as Captains. Maybe not as much as Stoll (because the L.A. lights sort of distracted him...haha). Could you imagine a Jarret Stoll captain, Eberle & RNH assistant captains - screams heart and soul team.
This team in the past has sort of given out letters to guys who don't deserve it. I mean Gilbert, and Hemsky have A's cmon!
I am not saying this isn't Halls team and his importance should be diminished, but he eerily reeks of that Joe Thornton attitude. Both hard working, good players, but they just don't "get it" in terms of what means to be a leader. IF Hall was Captain now, (much like when Thornton was in Boston) you could quickly see that turn into entitlement much like Moreau. Also not hating on Hall (I am older so I actually care for people to succeed) just basing on experience in life & with people, Hall is a great leader by example.
In fact you can divide leaders often in three categories (with many players being a little bit of each):
(1)those who have talent, but because of leadership abilities, should and usually where the A because they lead by example maybe where an A and that's all (see Evgeny Malkin, Ales Hemsky, Marian Hossa)
(2)Then leaders who can wear the C even if they lack talent because they make up for it with humility, heart and soul character; care for all players to succeed, and no how to help other players get better as individuals off the ice; not necessarily on the ice; see Jason Smith, Shawn Horcoff (maybe not now); those types) - add also type of guys who carry that presence that you know there the "guy"
(3) Then you have guys who have everything have talent, heart and soul, carry humility can make others on the team better; on and off the ice, also carry that presence that you know there that guy. Usually hard to find cause once in a generational players: see Joe Sakic, Steve Yzerman, Sidney Crosby, Jonathan Toews.
This team found its future heart and soul in RNH, and Eberle that to maybe a lesser role could be in that category, and I even may be knocked for this, but Gagner as well into category two. Also if you have that category three then you have something special to build on.
I agree completely with the types of leadership on a team and a team needing all three types. However it is important to state that the C and A should only be given to certain levels.
Also meant to put in my earlier post that Eberle made a comment about RNH that was pretty funny. He was going around saying "I've seen the nuge and he ain't huge."
I am curious to see how Brule plays if he makes it through waivers. As for PRV, they better let him play top 6 mins or else it's a waste of his development time.
So what does the line up look like now for forwards with the call ups?
Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Smyth - Horc - Jones Magnus - Belanger - Eager
Lander - O'marra - Hordichuk
?
Yikes.
oh
my
god
if they even think about doing that...ugh im gonna cry out of frustration/anger
What assumption? You haven't notice that the kid had lost all confidence? Has he not been bounced all around the lineup and back and forth between the bottom 6, the pressbox, the farm team and now back with the big club? What are the assumptions on my part?
The team could have called up Petrell and O'Marra and been just fine, there was really no need to call up Paajarvi.
The objective from here on out this season should be to properly develop our young players because they are the future, this is not properly developing a young player especially one that is fragile at this point in his career.
As Bryan mentioned earlier, if Hemsky was to be moved then that would open up a spot for Paajarvi to earn a top 6 spot but otherwise, he is just keeping a spot warm until Eberle gets back. Paajarvi should not be viewed as a placeholder or as a fill in, he should be viewed as a key player moving forward.
You're assuming he'll continue to be bounced around and that he has no confidence. Pretty sure just under a PPG has boosted his morale.
