When you ice the worst defense in the league it's always comforting to see a team commit multiple years to yet another depth defenseman.
Any chance this is a two way?
Not that there is worry of him getting scooped as much as an indication of intent by the Oilers and whether or not they actually see him as part of their 'championship' team.
"Multiple years"?
Less than $1M per for a 5-7 Dman is that big of an issue moving forward?
You could also argue that Sutton has been better. I like Potter in the offensive zone he just worries me in the dzone, seems to have a lot of trouble defending the rush especially 2 on 1's.
But like I said earlier hard to complain at that price, I don't mind the guy I just hope Potter isn't Tambos solution to the glaring holes in the top 4.
Anaheim has as much (if not more) talent up front as we do and he struggled there. And it's not just a matter of boxcars... Foster was easily one of the worst players on the Oilers last year.
The Ducks offence this year isn't much better than the Oilers offence was last year.
That's a terrific deal IMO and i think that Potter is getting really underrated in this thread, the guy is on pace for over 40 pts pro-rated.
I know that some people consider him a placeholder but i would say that he is a solid #4 guy if he can maintain this level of play and at worst he's a good bottom pairing guy. Good signing by Tambo, i don't know how anybody can say otherwise.
When you ice the worst defense in the league it's always comforting to see a team commit multiple years to yet another depth defenseman.
Any chance this is a two way?
Not that there is worry of him getting scooped as much as an indication of intent by the Oilers and whether or not they actually see him as part of their 'championship' team.
Give me a break, he is not being paid like a top 4 d-man. Isn't there enough to gripe about without griping about this one.
Obviously, with all the injuries this team has every year signing some depth dman is not even remotely a bad idea, in fact it is an obvious good move!
That's ridiculous talk, he's much better than Foster ever was for the Oilers.
I'm not so sure about that.
He started off great, but has been terrible for about 15 games now. 1 goal, 5 assists and has been on the ice for 23 goals against in those last 15 games. That is a brutal amount of goals against, especially for a defenceman that barely penalty kills. Even Foster was only on the ice for 46 goals against last year in 74 games.
He started off great, but has been terrible for about 15 games now. 1 goal, 5 assists and has been on the ice for 23 goals against in those last 15 games. That is a brutal amount of goals against, especially for a defenceman that barely penalty kills. Even Foster was only on the ice for 46 goals against last year in 74 games.
You can just watch Potter play and see that he is a big upgrade on Foster.
He's a better skater, he's a much better passer, runs the PP much more efficiently, is more effective at keeping the puck in the offensive zone and is more physical defensively. He hasn't been terrible as of late IMO, he has been merely adequate defensively (some good, some bad) while providing a strong PP presence.
The one characteristic that he shares with Foster is that he misses the net way too much but he still has 3 goals and 14 pts in 27 games despite missing the net a ton, that's not too shabby for a depth defenseman, wouldn't you say?
He's not a long term solution but i see no problem with him being in the top 6 for the next 2 years, i would have had a huge problem with Foster in the top 6.
He started off great, but has been terrible for about 15 games now. 1 goal, 5 assists and has been on the ice for 23 goals against in those last 15 games. That is a brutal amount of goals against, especially for a defenceman that barely penalty kills. Even Foster was only on the ice for 46 goals against last year in 74 games.
Who's his competition during that time? Line mates? On ice SV%?
Keep in mind you are referencing unit based statistics. Potter's not a world beater, but he should be a capable 5-7 guy, and that is exactly what he has been signed for.
Nope, but considering the minions around here love to trot out the old Loweism of 'damn we have a lot of defenseman' I would think a little more thought would be given to the numbers of and the spots suited for the guys in the system a little more than the affordability of the contract.
Hell at some point the sheer number of contracts always come into play as well.
So what spot was he signed for? Seems to me that the bottom pairing is already getting crowded which would suggest that they are looking at pushing guys up the line up - which has proven to be a one way ticket to the basement - as opposed to pushing guys down the line up like the good teams do.
At some point they have to actually try and improve this team, no?
So yeah the question of a two way contract seems legit to me. It's as much about getting a sense of what Tambellini is planning as anything else. And spare me any comments about me not paying for it, no matter if it's one million or ten million, the willingness to write a check for any amount with potentially zero value returned says something.
Nope, but considering the minions around here love to trot out the old Loweism of 'damn we have a lot of defenseman' I would think a little more thought would be given to the numbers of and the spots suited for the guys in the system a little more than the affordability of the contract.
Hell at some point the sheer number of contracts always come into play as well.
So what spot was he signed for? Seems to me that the bottom pairing is already getting crowded which would suggest that they are looking at pushing guys up the line up - which has proven to be a one way ticket to the basement - as opposed to pushing guys down the line up like the good teams do.
At some point they have to actually try and improve this team, no?
So yeah the question of a two way contract seems legit to me. It's as much about getting a sense of what Tambellini is planning as anything else. And spare me any comments about me not paying for it, no matter if it's one million or ten million, the willingness to write a check for any amount with potentially zero value returned says something.
Do you really believe what you're saying? Potter has played a big part in making this one of the best PP's in the league and has 14 points in 27 games so how is there zero value being returned?
I find it amazing that some people can complain about anything and i mean ANYTHING. It boggles my mind.
Nope, but considering the minions around here love to trot out the old Loweism of 'damn we have a lot of defenseman' I would think a little more thought would be given to the numbers of and the spots suited for the guys in the system a little more than the affordability of the contract.
Hell at some point the sheer number of contracts always come into play as well.
So what spot was he signed for? Seems to me that the bottom pairing is already getting crowded which would suggest that they are looking at pushing guys up the line up - which has proven to be a one way ticket to the basement - as opposed to pushing guys down the line up like the good teams do.
At some point they have to actually try and improve this team, no?
So yeah the question of a two way contract seems legit to me. It's as much about getting a sense of what Tambellini is planning as anything else. And spare me any comments about me not paying for it, no matter if it's one million or ten million, the willingness to write a check for any amount with potentially zero value returned says something.
The reason the question of a two way contract is silly is because, unless I'm mistaken, Potter would have to clear waivers regardless. So if he isn't one of our best 7 defensemen, he's going to the minors either way. The Oilers have been willing to eat bigger contracts before, and quite frankly defensemen who are on pace for 34 points and signed at cap hit under $1M per are pretty easy to move. Getting all indignant about it is pointless, and kind of comes off like griping for the sake of griping.
Worrying about "moving defensemen up" instead of down is you not seeing the forest for the trees. Simply put, Potter is showing that he's a capable bottom pairing player and management recognized that with this extension. The relative position on the roster of guys like Peckham, Teubert, or Petry is completely irrelevant to making this decision. If your argument is that Tambellini should be out acquiring serviceable NHL defensemen so Teubert and Petry can play in the minors, that's fine, but you have yet to demonstrate why that makes extending Potter a poor decision.
