This round was very close, too close to call. So very early in our polling, we are going to have a tie-breaker.
J.T. Miller
Center
Born Mar 14 1993 -- East Palestine, OH
Height 6.02 -- Weight 195 -- Shoots L
2011-12 Plymouth Whalers OHL 33 13 26 39
"There was no one (on the board) that had all the qualities that JT had. There could be someone who will score more goals, there could be somebody that's going to be a faster skater, but if you want to put size with skating with character with grit with work ethic with playmaking ability and scoring ability, no one had all those qualities in their game. He had them all." - Gordie Clark
Carl Hagelin
Left Wing
Born Aug 23 1988 -- Sodertalje, Sweden
Height 5.11 -- Weight 176 -- Shoots L
2011-12 New York Rangers NHL 21 7 4 11
"He has done so much because of his speed, and he has made himself better each year by preparing in the off-season and getting as strong as he can for his size. He's also an elite character kid because you don't usually see a Swedish kid that's the captain of a U.S. college team." - Gordie Clark in 2011
I think both guys end up as excellent 3rd liners, who will spend time on higher lines, but not have the consistency to stick there, your classic 'tweener'.
Miller but I can't vote. So if it comes down to one vote, hopefully you include my vote.
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This is so preliminary, and only based on me seeing him in Traverse City, but JT seemed to be very offensive on the puck, and immediately looking to make a play to a player that was going on net.
He reminds me of Tavares sometimes. No frills to his game, and the whole concept is either take a scoring chance or get the puck to someone that's looking to get the puck on net. I remember wondering about his d-zone play though.
I voted for hagelin though, because his speed is so important in today's NHL, and the fact that he has a shooter mentality. when he makes a move with the puck you can tell his first thought is always to get the puck on net.
If someone were to ask me--Would I trade J. T. Miller for Carl Hagelin?--I'd say no and conversely would I trade Carl Hagelin for J. T. Miller--I'd say yes.
Keeping in mind that this would not be a trade for the here and now because Hagelin is showing he is ready and is going to be a really fine player but Miller should in my mind be the better player in the not too distant future.
Hagaelin is the safe pick in that he's already in the league, but Miller has the upside. I'll take Miller.
When you say Miller has the upside... What upside are we talking here?
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I feel like this is such an appropriate quote for these boards...
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience"-Mark Twain
If someone were to ask me--Would I trade J. T. Miller for Carl Hagelin?--I'd say no and conversely would I trade Carl Hagelin for J. T. Miller--I'd say yes.
Keeping in mind that this would not be a trade for the here and now because Hagelin is showing he is ready and is going to be a really fine player but Miller should in my mind be the better player in the not too distant future.
Miller; solid, solid player with skill and an edge. Plus he still has room to grow and become a power forward which we need desparately. Think Adam Graves with better puck skills.
