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01-11-2012, 12:01 AM
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Shanahan. All the unpunished dirty hits along the boards before Bouchard's essentially gave Bogo permission to make that play.
I'm still mad at the refs for not calling the earlier boarding where Zanon was roughed up. If that play is penalized, Bogo likely avoids hitting Butch like that.

However, Russo was mentioning that Butch was elbowed (incidentally) in the head on his last shift of the Vancouver game. Could be related.

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http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/137103148.html

injury update.

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Pierre-Marc Bouchard this morning said it all started Dec. 13 in Winnipeg after Zach Bogosian checked him face-first into the boards.
Also in the article, PMB is practicing.

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01-23-2012, 12:38 PM
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As an update, I don't believe PMB is practicing. He is not doing anything off the ice either. Just resting and getting work done on his neck.

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I attended a discussion this summer with Gary Bettman speaking. One fan asked him a question about "the concussion problem". Bettman seemed to brag about how far ahead the NHL was above the other sports on the knowlege and treatment of these injuries.

I remember thinking ... "Huh? Concussions are ruining the sport Gary!"

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If/when a guy like PMB plays hockey again, should he wear a full caged helmet? and be required to wear a mouthguard?

Maybe Lats too after his 2nd this season....

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Butch does use a mouthguard and an M11 helmet, both designed to reduce likelihood of concussion.

But nothing will help from getting boarded brutally and illegally.

Cages are not allowed in the NHL for healthy players.

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If/when a guy like PMB plays hockey again, should he wear a full caged helmet? and be required to wear a mouthguard?

Maybe Lats too after his 2nd this season....
Do full cages offer more protection against concussions? Remember, a concussion is caused by the sudden acceleration of the head, so I dont think a cage would have made a difference in Bouchards case, it just would have dented the cage instead of breaking his nose when Bogo slapped him into the ledge.

And I think we need to have Kassian in the lineup when we play Winny at home later this year. Time for some *cracks knuckles and stretches neck* payback.

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I attended a discussion this summer with Gary Bettman speaking. One fan asked him a question about "the concussion problem". Bettman seemed to brag about how far ahead the NHL was above the other sports on the knowlege and treatment of these injuries.

I remember thinking ... "Huh? Concussions are ruining the sport Gary!"
The NHL is way ahead of other sports, but that doesn't mean it does a fantastic job or anything. Just think, until last year, NFL players were able to return to the same football game after sustaining a concussion. That's to say, after a doctor diagnosed a player as having a concussion, he was still allowed to re-enter the game.

The NHL encourages the use of concussion reducing helmets and other gear. They're looking into the possibility of using different types of shoulder pads to reduce incidence. They've addressed headshots heavily (albeit inconsistently). They're testing various rule changes to reduce incidence.

The NHL has done a lot. A few weeks ago, a report came out showing that concussions this NHL season are down substantially over both last season, and a composite of the seasons since the lockout. Reporting on concussions has gone way up, and that's why it seems like they're more common when reality actually shows they're declining.

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Do full cages offer more protection against concussions? Remember, a concussion is caused by the sudden acceleration of the head, so I dont think a cage would have made a difference in Bouchards case, it just would have dented the cage instead of breaking his nose when Bogo slapped him into the ledge.

And I think we need to have Kassian in the lineup when we play Winny at home later this year. Time for some *cracks knuckles and stretches neck* payback.
I remember hearing that the majority of concussions were a result of the lower jaw being jammed upward (teeth crunching against each other) and seeing PMB with the towel around his bleeding nose, I just think for a guy like him, every bit of equipment can help to some degree.

The cage and mouthguard can definitely protect against the jaw jamming aspect of hits, and protect some people from further damage....but then they couldn't fight

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I remember hearing that the majority of concussions were a result of the lower jaw being jammed upward (teeth crunching against each other) and seeing PMB with the towel around his bleeding nose, I just think for a guy like him, every bit of equipment can help to some degree.

The cage and mouthguard can definitely protect against the jaw jamming aspect of hits, and protect some people from further damage....but then they couldn't fight

you could just engineer a cage that has a detach button, you press it and it pops off leaving the helmet on and allowing a fight to take place.

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you could just engineer a cage that has a detach button, you press it and it pops off leaving the helmet on and allowing a fight to take place.


make it happen

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I remember hearing that the majority of concussions were a result of the lower jaw being jammed upward (teeth crunching against each other) and seeing PMB with the towel around his bleeding nose, I just think for a guy like him, every bit of equipment can help to some degree.

The cage and mouthguard can definitely protect against the jaw jamming aspect of hits, and protect some people from further damage....but then they couldn't fight
There were theories that such things maybe the case, but research has shown otherwise.

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