Speculation: Matt Carle's value..

[BernieParent]

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus

I'm off to the Toronto forums then, we owe them a couple.

Don't come back without at least one Kadri intangible. Oh, and pack both 2nd round picks, just in case. And your angry eyes.

Carle right now is a real positive on defense. I wish he had a slap shot to contribute offensively, but he has improved markedly in his defensive game. As mirimon said, though, Carle's agent is going to want a big raise, and I don't think he will be worth what he can get from someone. Package Carle to upgrade.

If the Flyers went into freefall, I could see a good return at the trade deadline for Carle. But that is not to be wished for.

[WeekendAtBernies]

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus

I'm off to the Toronto forums then, we owe them a couple.

Offer them Bryzgalov for L. Schenn... I think it's reasonably fair value

[GoneFullHolmgren]

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus

They'd need to add

Luke Schenn and 4 firsts for Jody Shelley.



In all seriousness, I was for trading Carle in the offseason because like others have said he seemed like he was a expendable commodity for what we needed. We know what happened instead. yes he does put up the points but at times he can make mistakes that drive you freakin nuts.
The season he is having pointwise he is probably pricing himself out of what the Flyers can afford to give him. I wouldnt give him more then Coburn or Mez but thats where hes likely headed.
Thankfully they dont count the goals he knocks into his own net twords his own point totals

[Kaktus*]

If we can not keep him we should move him and reaplce him with Gill, Kubina similar type of players. Short term cheaper solution.

I'd say 1st and NHL ready prospect? For Carle?

I'd love to draft two players in 1st round. Last time we had two 1st we didn't do too shabby.

[phlocky]

Originally Posted by BobbyClarkeFan16

I think Carle's value is a lot higher than what people realize. He's top 20 in scoring amongst defensemen this year, always has a high number of assists and when you consider he gets most of his points at even strength, that's a pretty mighty feat. I think a first round pick is not enough for Carle. A first and a top prospect is not out of the realm for a guy like Carle at all.

I think this is pretty close. While I don't think he's worth a 1st and a top prospect, I can see a late 1st and a 2nd tier prospect being accurate. Carle won't return a pick in the top 15 IMO but I'd move him for something late.

sorry, but watching this team play, unless we make a major move for a guy like Weber or Suter before the deadline this team just doesn't have what it takes to get past a team like Bostpn. I mean jeez, we only got 2 points in a home-at-home series with the Sens and THAY took home 3 points. How the eff did that happen???

I'd rather trade Carle for a 1st and 2nd tier prospect and then aquire someone like Gleason for a 2nd rnd pick (and maybe Marshall or something is necessary) and limp into the playoffs with about the same team we have now. Let some of the new guys get some playoff experience and use this season as a growing year for everyone. Then go into the draft and either draft a full stable of dmen with two 1sts and two 2nds or trade all four of those picks to move up into the top 5 and take a stud dman. Maybe trade a 2nd for suters rights if he isn't resigned by then.

I'm one of the biggest supporters of Carle on here. I know his strengths and his weaknesses and I know he's far more valuable and far better than most on here give him credit for being. However, I'm also a realists and I just don't see us going anywhere this year. I can easily see Carle getting resigned but us in the offseason and it's not going to be a bad thing but for me, I'd look to get something for him now and sign a replacemnt UFA during the off-season. I'd get some very valuable assets (pick and prospect) for him now while I can.

[tuckrr]

Originally Posted by Spongolium

He would return a late first, just like Umberger did.

I wouldn't be adverse to trading him for a big shutdown D

JAMIE OLEKSIAK???

[tuckrr]

Originally Posted by nitroglycerin

If we can not keep him we should move him and reaplce him with Gill, Kubina similar type of players. Short term cheaper solution.

I'd say 1st and NHL ready prospect? For Carle?

I'd love to draft two players in 1st round. Last time we had two 1st we didn't do too shabby.

Pittsburgh 1st + Eric Tangradi

I'd do that

[sa cyred]

Originally Posted by tuckrr

Pittsburgh 1st + Eric Tangradi

I'd do that

I wouldnt. Tangradi has been getting pumped up for years and still hasnt done anything.

[Kaktus*]

Originally Posted by tuckrr

Pittsburgh 1st + Eric Tangradi

I'd do that

Who is better Tangradi or Maroon who we all thought was going to be the next thing? late bloomer and all that

[lancer247]

Originally Posted by phlocky

I think this is pretty close. While I don't think he's worth a 1st and a top prospect, I can see a late 1st and a 2nd tier prospect being accurate. Carle won't return a pick in the top 15 IMO but I'd move him for something late.

sorry, but watching this team play, unless we make a major move for a guy like Weber or Suter before the deadline this team just doesn't have what it takes to get past a team like Bostpn. I mean jeez, we only got 2 points in a home-at-home series with the Sens and THAY took home 3 points. How the eff did that happen???

I'd rather trade Carle for a 1st and 2nd tier prospect and then aquire someone like Gleason for a 2nd rnd pick (and maybe Marshall or something is necessary) and limp into the playoffs with about the same team we have now. Let some of the new guys get some playoff experience and use this season as a growing year for everyone. Then go into the draft and either draft a full stable of dmen with two 1sts and two 2nds or trade all four of those picks to move up into the top 5 and take a stud dman. Maybe trade a 2nd for suters rights if he isn't resigned by then.

I'm one of the biggest supporters of Carle on here. I know his strengths and his weaknesses and I know he's far more valuable and far better than most on here give him credit for being. However, I'm also a realists and I just don't see us going anywhere this year. I can easily see Carle getting resigned but us in the offseason and it's not going to be a bad thing but for me, I'd look to get something for him now and sign a replacemnt UFA during the off-season. I'd get some very valuable assets (pick and prospect) for him now while I can.

If they. Think they can sign Carle for same as Coburn and Mez then don't they have to keep him? Possibly losing Pronger and Kimo the following year why get rid of a solid damn under the age of 30. If they added Gleason to the d corp I would find it hard to believe they would limp into the playoffs. I look at it as any year you may not have to face the Pens with Crosby + a healthy Malkin is a year you should go for it. Didn't Hamhuis get a 2nd for his rights? I would wait until after the season to see how things go with Carle.

[FlyersMania2]

Matt Carley's value = mike York + bag of pucks...all worthless