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F Teuvo Teräväinen - Jokerit, SM-Liiga (2012, 18th overall, Chicago)

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03-14-2012, 12:07 PM
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armia might be more skilled with the puck tho. I don't count deking as creativity
Actually deking is creativity, you could just skate and try to shoot every time... or you can be creative and play the defenseman out. Deking is much more than just skill.

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03-14-2012, 12:58 PM
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We missed on Toni Rajala, a lot. Everyone thought he'd be drafted in the first round. Same goes for Pulkkinen, but I still think he was a huge steal.
And Ma. Granlund was supposed to be 4th-5th round pick. Personally I think Teräväinen won't make top15 but I see him making top20.


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03-14-2012, 01:04 PM
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Actually deking is creativity, you could just skate and try to shoot every time... or you can be creative and play the defenseman out. Deking is much more than just skill.
Armia doesn't deke that much, he usually just drives to net like a big guys should do. Let's say that teravainen tries to deke a d, he starts of good is about to go around and suddenly that dmen just pushes Teravainen away from puck and takes it.

In most cases deking is all about big body and reach not about creativity, Armia does use them well.

Also don't bring Datsyuk in this discussion, because you can't compare anyone to him when it comes to deking.

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03-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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In most cases deking is all about big body and reach not about creativity, Armia does use them well.
It is creativity, google the word if you don't understand the meaning of it. Same if you give an unexpected pass which you say is creativity, you make an unexpected move.

And what are you watching? Armia dekes almost all the time, sometimes too much.

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It is creativity, google the word if you don't understand the meaning of it. Same if you give an unexpected pass which you say is creativity, you make an unexpected move.

And what are you watching? Armia dekes almost all the time, sometimes too much.
I pretty much aware of what creativity means, i just see it a lot more creative when one outplays opponent without moving which actually requires hellalot more skill compared to Armia's driving to net.

I just don't see any creativity ( on 80% of the goals he just shoots it or drives to net without any deking ) if you do see it, please teach me the way you look ones game.

You know you kinda can't argue on things you like/prefer said a dog after licking hes arse. No need to insult just because i don't agree with you.

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03-14-2012, 03:43 PM
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I pretty much aware of what creativity means, i just see it a lot more creative when one outplays opponent without moving which actually requires hellalot more skill compared to Armia's driving to net.

I just don't see any creativity ( on 80% of the goals he just shoots it or drives to net without any deking ) if you do see it, please teach me the way you look ones game.

You know you kinda can't argue on things you like/prefer said a dog after licking hes arse. No need to insult just because i don't agree with you.
If you think Armia doesn't deke enough or that he has no creativity you clearly haven't watched any of his games. Or then you have done so blind.

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03-14-2012, 03:56 PM
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If you think Armia doesn't deke enough or that he has no creativity you clearly haven't watched any of his games. Or then you have done so blind.
He doesn't do deking that much. Actually he's playing more linear now than last year which is good thing, it's a lot easier to transform game to NHL rink which is linear, so yeah it's a good thing.

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03-15-2012, 07:43 AM
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There is an interesting article about Teräväinen on Iltalehti http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/20...25533_jk.shtml (i know i know it's a **** magazine) Good points, maybe a bit overboard with the hyping.

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There is an interesting article about Teräväinen on Iltalehti http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/20...25533_jk.shtml (i know i know it's a **** magazine) Good points, maybe a bit overboard with the hyping.
I'd like to know why they describe him as "arduous/tricky teenage star"

He didn't come home in time from rinks? Bad in school? Bad behavior?

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I'd like to know why they describe him as "arduous/tricky teenage star"

He didn't come home in time from rinks? Bad in school? Bad behavior?
What i did myself as a teen: Every winter i skipped school like every second day when i was 11-16years old just to play hockey for ~12 hours, nothing else mattered me that much back then.

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I'd like to know why they describe him as "arduous/tricky teenage star"

He didn't come home in time from rinks? Bad in school? Bad behavior?
According to full version he used to have coachability issues, needed to be disciplined a lot and his coach needed to try every trick to handle him. Anyway has matured a lot since. Also really started to work only about a year ago, when he noticed that others were doing better and being much stronger and he couldn't count only on his talent, but had to also do the work.


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03-21-2012, 10:42 AM
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Seems like Teravainen is taking Pulkkinen's spot on roster, there is rumors that Pulkkinen will be playing in juniors and Teravainen in FEL.

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Seems like Teravainen is taking Pulkkinen's spot on roster, there is rumors that Pulkkinen will be playing in juniors and Teravainen in FEL.
Right move, Pulkkinen has been pretty bad lately. Maybe this wakes him up... or not.

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Right move, Pulkkinen has been pretty bad lately. Maybe this wakes him up... or not.
Pulu is having some sort of leg injury.

It will be nice to see how Teuvo takes the playoff games cause the physicality and speed goes to another level.

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03-22-2012, 09:19 AM
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Pulu is having some sort of leg injury.

It will be nice to see how Teuvo takes the playoff games cause the physicality and speed goes to another level.
He's healthy scratched, no injury. If Teravainen can just pull it off ( fill those boots they're offering him ) and also dominate U18 wc this year he will be drafted TOP-10 no doubt about it.

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03-22-2012, 01:59 PM
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He's healthy scratched, no injury. If Teravainen can just pull it off ( fill those boots they're offering him ) and also dominate U18 wc this year he will be drafted TOP-10 no doubt about it.
He keeps this up, he'll be playing SM-liiga playoff when the tournament is on...

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His numbers in Jr.A and U18 international are very impressive for this season. What role does he play on Jokerit? Third or fourth line i'd presume? His numers are impressive none the less.

Is he a bit on the light side? EP lists him as 165lbs. Is that in the ball park or completely off?

What's his upside?

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His numbers in Jr.A and U18 international are very impressive for this season. What role does he play on Jokerit? Third or fourth line i'd presume? His numers are impressive none the less.
In today's game he is playing on the second line. Anyway I'd say that Jokerit has actually 3 first lines.

One assist so far in today's game.

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03-22-2012, 02:23 PM
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His numbers in Jr.A and U18 international are very impressive for this season. What role does he play on Jokerit? Third or fourth line i'd presume? His numers are impressive none the less.

Is he a bit on the light side? EP lists him as 165lbs. Is that in the ball park or completely off?

What's his upside?
He started on the 4th line but got to play in the higher lines when Jokerit had a lot of injuries. He really shined and now he's a big part of their top-9, and plays the PP as well. It's a pretty amazing feat really, it's a tough lineup to break into.

You can still see that he's very young as he still struggles in corner play. But his puck skills are something else. The way he plays the pp reminds me of Granlund, very smooth hands, plays calmly and gives great passes. Unlike Granlund at the same age, Teräväinen is a VERY slick skater.

edit: 0+2 so far tonight. The second pass was very impressive


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Is he a bit on the light side? EP lists him as 165lbs. Is that in the ball park or completely off?
He's listed at 185lbs on SM-liiga's website.

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He's listed at 185lbs on SM-liiga's website.
Which is an obvious typo. SM-liiga website is crap, the measurements are never correct.

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Which is an obvious typo. SM-liiga website is crap, the measurements are never correct.
HDb has him also at 185lbs. They probably got it from SM-liiga's site though. Jokerit also have him at 185lbs on their site.

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Which is an obvious typo. SM-liiga website is crap, the measurements are never correct.
I think Jääkiekkolehti and Veikkaaja also had him at 84 kilos in their respective season previews.

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I think Jääkiekkolehti and Veikkaaja also had him at 84 kilos in their respective season previews.
whaaaat... In every NT measurement he's been around 74-75. Last year he was 70, you guys think he would actually gained 14 kilos of mass? I doubt it. Besides, he looks super scrawny. 84 is actually very normal for a full grown player of his height.

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