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01-12-2012, 11:17 AM
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No. This is a dumb idea. Stop bringing it up.

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01-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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01-12-2012, 11:33 AM
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No, but then again it's pretty hypocritical for the NHL to crack down on hits to the head and at the same tolerate bare knuckle brawling.

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01-12-2012, 11:35 AM
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Stopped reading at "progressive hockey veteran Jimmy Devellano."

There is nothing progressive about Jimmy D, he is the same guy that drafted and signed many tough players back in the day and was part of a front office that had no problem playing that style when it suited them. If Devellano is taking a stand against fighting now he is a hypocritical ass.

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01-12-2012, 12:12 PM
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I know this will come as a shock to some, but fighting is already illegal in the NHL.

Is fighting "banned" in the NFL, NBA, or baseball? Because you still see the occasional fight in those sports.

You can talk about stiffer penalties for fighting if you like, but it bothers me when people suggest fighting should be "banned". It is.
I find it funny that so many don't understand this.


A list of things that are allowed in hockey:
  • Slapshots
  • Skating
  • Checking
  • Drinking water on the bench
  • Wearing helmets
  • Scoring goals
  • Sweating
  • Breathing


Things that are not allowed in hockey:
  • Tripping
  • Slashing
  • Racial slurs
  • Fighting
  • Diving
  • Cross checking
  • Sean Avery
  • Boarding
  • Charging

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01-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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Staged fights that happen just so the two players involved could duke it out without any real reason got to go, but fights that happen during the heat of the moment should stay as the part of the game IMHO.
I'm not agree with your point of view with the stage fights.
If your team loose 3-0 in the first period, maybe one of your tough guy would want to create a spark and fight someone right at the face-off. It's a good ''reason'' in my mind and it's still a stage fight.

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01-12-2012, 12:58 PM
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I find it funny that so many don't understand this.


A list of things that are allowed in hockey:
  • Slapshots
  • Skating
  • Checking
  • Drinking water on the bench
  • Wearing helmets
  • Scoring goals
  • Sweating
  • Breathing


Things that are not allowed in hockey:
  • Tripping
  • Slashing
  • Racial slurs
  • Fighting
  • Diving
  • Cross checking
  • Sean Avery
  • Boarding
  • Charging
what is the maximum penalty for tripping or diving? 2 minutes. whats the maximum penalty for boarding or hitting to the head? a multi game suspension.

coming off the bench for a fight is an automatic 10 game suspension.

the nhl is not trying to iradicate tripping from hockey games. they put a flat end to bench clearing fighting with the automatic suspension.

its a weak argument. try again

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01-12-2012, 02:03 PM
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No, but then again it's pretty hypocritical for the NHL to crack down on hits to the head and at the same tolerate bare knuckle brawling.
One difference is that both parties aren't willing in an illegal hit to the head. With fighting both parties are willing.

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01-12-2012, 02:15 PM
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One difference is that both parties aren't willing in an illegal hit to the head. With fighting both parties are willing.
thats definately a difference. just the same if the league is committed to cutting down on blows to the head, allowing blows to the head because both parties agreed to it still looks pretty silly.

you could also make the case as others have that nick backstrom knew there was a risk of getting elbowed in the head every time he takes the ice. so in a sense he has agreed to it aswell. right?

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01-12-2012, 02:28 PM
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For the love of God, I hate the media for constantly bringing this up. No, fighting is not gonna be banned. The players want it and fans pay to see it, so it will stay. HFBoards represent the minority of hockey fans, and even we agree for the most part fighting should stay. 99% of the fans though are your average Joe's, go ask them if fighting should stay, guarentee they don't even know about the ****storm the media creates every time there's a fight.

I used to enjoy Puck Daddy but this year he's really sucked. He blatantly just posts controversial stuff to get page views.

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01-12-2012, 03:37 PM
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if the players want fighting so badly, why do such a small percentage of them every fight?
i think that if you asked fans you would find that the vast majority would say that less or no fighting would not significantly effct their love of the game one way or the other.

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01-12-2012, 04:01 PM
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Staged fights, enforcers, instigator rule all need to go.

It should be noted that the three players who tragically passed away this summer, no disrespect intended, but they were goons. I'd like to see brain damage tests done on a player who fought and scored. Someone who didn't make a living by fighting.

It isn't the fights that need to go, it's the enforcers who play a few shifts just to fight.

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01-12-2012, 04:09 PM
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No, only stat junkies (cough cough most of hf), journalists trying to get attention, and soccer moms want fighting out of the league.

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01-12-2012, 05:13 PM
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No, only stat junkies (cough cough most of hf), journalists trying to get attention, and soccer moms want fighting out of the league.
After having gone a couple of rounds in the two or three threads of essentially the same topic that preceded this one, I've come to the conclusion that the people on both sides of this debate have zero interest in considering the opposing viewpoint and changing their minds.

Just accept that some people support fights and some people dont. This decision of whether fighting should lead to automatic ejections and suspensions wont be made at the "fan" level anyways so where one falls on this question is likely moot anyways.

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01-12-2012, 05:24 PM
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Until people who are playing the game want it stopped who gives a damm what newspaper reporters think

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01-12-2012, 05:30 PM
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You know who they didn't quote? Wayne Gretzky...who says the instigator should be dropped.

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01-12-2012, 05:33 PM
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I find it funny that so many don't understand this.


A list of things that are allowed in hockey:
  • Slapshots
  • Skating
  • Checking
  • Drinking water on the bench
  • Wearing helmets
  • Scoring goals
  • Sweating
  • Breathing


Things that are not allowed in hockey:
  • Tripping
  • Slashing
  • Racial slurs
  • Fighting
  • Diving
  • Cross checking
  • Sean Avery
  • Boarding
  • Charging
Slashing is allowed. It is up to the official's discretion.

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01-12-2012, 05:43 PM
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if the players want fighting so badly, why do such a small percentage of them every fight?i think that if you asked fans you would find that the vast majority would say that less or no fighting would not significantly effct their love of the game one way or the other.
Fighting is down significantly yet 214 players have had a fight so far this year. Not really a small percentage.

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01-12-2012, 09:06 PM
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No, only stat junkies (cough cough most of hf), journalists trying to get attention, and soccer moms want fighting out of the league.
thank you. QFT.

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01-12-2012, 09:41 PM
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I'd rather have fighting stay in the league, but if it was taken out, I don't think it would be a big deal. Fighting adds a nice edge to the game, but fighting is not hockey, hockey would be only slightly less entertaining/awesome without fighting.

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01-12-2012, 10:25 PM
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what is up with this soccer mom thing? is there some canadian campaign by soccer moms to kill hockey? is cassie campbell....whatshername giving seminars on making hockey more culturally compatible?

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01-12-2012, 10:56 PM
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Fighting should only be a 5 minute major. Screw taking it away completely.

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01-13-2012, 02:10 AM
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I'm so sick of these threads and some former NHL guys just wanting a spot in the limelight so lets put it this way.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

its part of the tradition, integrity of this great sport. The game is already ********* enough stop turning it into soccer, basketball or whatever.

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01-13-2012, 10:12 AM
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Trevor Gillies should be abolished.
Say that to his face. I love what Trevor Gillies brings to the hockey rink.Isles need to call him back up.

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01-13-2012, 12:24 PM
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It needs to stay, fans love it and without the fans you have nothing. Protect the players the best you can but they can't remove it.

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