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01-11-2012, 03:08 PM
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Is Michalek really untouchable?

He no doubt can score but is he really good enough to help his line. Playing on the top line and only having 8 assists doesn't help Spezza or Greening much. In San Jose he would average a lot more assists where now I think he is maybe putting too much emphasis on just scoring. His D is really good because of his speed.

Before anybody starts to cry about what a stupid thread this is or what ever emotions come over you, If you had a chance to get Parise/Nash/Ryan to replace him with Spezza would you do it

We are having a great season and if we didn't make anymore move I wouldn't be really bothered by it because I like Michalek but if he were the key to getting a big name free agent who would add an extra 15 to 25 points would you?

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Not for an upgrade.

I'd probably also deal him for a nice package of futures, but it would have to be a really nice package. Sell high.

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This thread is very intelligent. Will read again.

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I came here to cry about what a stupid thread this is

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While I don't see him as untouchable, he contributes to others scoring goals by creating space on the ice- rather than with play-making passes. I think he affords Spezza time and space with the puck.

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While I don't see him as untouchable, he contributes to others scoring goals by creating space on the ice- rather than with play-making passes. I think he affords Spezza time and space with the puck.
Would Parise create even more space?

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His lack of assists has more to do with Spezza's style of play. Spezza is usually entering the zone with the puck and setting up plays. When your playing with one of the best play makers of the season you just smile and thank them for setting you up. Michalek is Spezza's closer, plain and simple.

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We are having a great season and if we didn't make anymore move I wouldn't be really bothered by it because I like Michalek but if he were the key to getting a big name free agent who would add an extra 15 to 25 points would you?
I don't understand this, what does it mean?

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Not for an upgrade.

I'd probably also deal him for a nice package of futures, but it would have to be a really nice package. Sell high.
How many futures do we need? Trade a 27 year old for another 27 year old that can score an additional 25 point? As long as we are not giving up anymore roster players or many more of our prospects i think it would give us the best chance to solidify the best possible forward. Michalek is a top 20 winger, Parise/Nash/ and to a lesser extent Ryan are in the top 10 range for lefties.

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1. Sign big name LW
2. Move Michalek down to the 2nd line
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4. Profit

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A 27 year old having a break out scoring season, entering his prime, with great chemistry on the team, who works his but off with a solid two way game, that is 235 pounds and hard to move off the puck.

Untouchable, no, but it had better be pretty freakin good.

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I don't understand this, what does it mean?

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Don't over think it, I made a mistake

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Michalek is here to score goals and is like 4th in the league

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A 27 year old having a break out scoring season, entering his prime, with great chemistry on the team, who works his but off with a solid two way game, that is 235 pounds and hard to move off the puck.

Untouchable, no, but it had better be pretty freakin good.
Nash is 6'4 225lbs and playing with Spezza could get 35 goals with his eyes closed. not to mention would add 20 more assists.

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Nash is 6'4 225lbs and playing with Spezza could get 35 goals with his eyes closed. not to mention would add 20 more assists.
Also costs around 3 million more than Michalek. And has no 2 way game. And tends to disappear for periods of time.

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Wait until he wins the Selke and Rocket, then trade him.

He's not untouchable, very few players are. I'd trade Karlsson for the right price.

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The only way Michalek gets moved is for a guy like Bobby Ryan. It's not wise to move him in a deal for a UFA like Parise because there is no guarentee they will resign here. But if we packaged him with another asset or two to sweeten the pot it would be worthwhile to get Ryan as an upgrade over Michalek. Plus Ryan is signed for 3 more years at a reasonable 5.1mil cap hit. Anaheim wants core for core, I say we do it.

What do you think we would need to add to Michalek to fetch Ryan realistically?

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A 27 year old having a break out scoring season, entering his prime, with great chemistry on the team, who works his but off with a solid two way game, that is 235 pounds and hard to move off the puck.

Untouchable, no, but it had better be pretty freakin good.
Almost sounds like when people where trying to defend Fisher even though most knew we needed someone better at 2C.
I'm just saying there are better players out there than Michalek and in order trade with a team like NJwho are in a playoff race too you would need to give them someone who could replce the offence of Parise and Give NJ cap room.

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The only way Michalek gets moved is for a guy like Bobby Ryan. It's not wise to move him in a deal for a UFA like Parise because there is no guarentee they will resign here. But if we packaged him with another asset or two to sweeten the pot it would be worthwhile to get Ryan as an upgrade over Michalek. Plus Ryan is signed for 3 more years at a reasonable 5.1mil cap hit. Anaheim wants core for core, I say we do it.

What do you think we would need to add to Michalek to fetch Ryan realistically?
Well Anaheim wants a top 6 player(preferably center), a top 4 dman and a prospect or a 1st.

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Or you could wait a few months and just sign Parise. That way we have Parise and...gasp...Michalek as well.

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The only way Michalek gets moved is for a guy like Bobby Ryan. It's not wise to move him in a deal for a UFA like Parise because there is no guarentee they will resign here. But if we packaged him with another asset or two to sweeten the pot it would be worthwhile to get Ryan as an upgrade over Michalek. Plus Ryan is signed for 3 more years at a reasonable 5.1mil cap hit. Anaheim wants core for core, I say we do it.

What do you think we would need to add to Michalek to fetch Ryan realistically?
At least a 2nd maybe even a 1st or one of our midrange prospect.
no team would trade that much for a player who may walk. Murray would have to agree to a sign and trade.

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I'd only trade him for a downgrade. amirite

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Also costs around 3 million more than Michalek. And has no 2 way game. And tends to disappear for periods of time.
If we were able to land Parise it wouldn't be for less than 7 million son it's no different.

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If MM scores 40 this year that's a better season than Heatley has ever had (yes 50 goals) because he is a very good defensive player, hitter, etc.

What I'm trying to prove is that it's dumb to think about trading Milan. Through Heaters time here he was untouchable and I think MM is better. Also we invested anlot in him and holds extra sentimental value to us

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If players got assists for goals going in because the goalie was screened by the guy standing in front of them, 9MM would have more assists and this thread wouldn't exist.

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