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01-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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General consensus is that Darcy Regier would never fire Ruff......

If that is true, and I'm basing that on the information I have read on these boards (not sure how true it is), is the feeling mutual in return?

In other words, if Darcy Regier was to be fired, how would Lindy Ruff react to that?

Is there anything out there where a question like that has been posed to Ruff or has he insinuated that he and Darcy are joined at the hip and if one goes they both go?

Serious question and am just wondering if there is any info out there that Lindy may have answered regarding a question or he made a comment about that situation.

I think this may be a likely scenario this off-season if the Sabres continue their slide into the doldrums. Just curious if Lindy Ruff would be fine with it and continue as is or if he would back Darcy and it becomes an ugly situation.

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Move to strike, speculative.

Nobody knows if Regier would never fire Ruff.

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Move to strike, speculative.

Nobody knows if Regier would never fire Ruff.
I'm fairly certain he has come out and explicitly said that he personally wouldn't fire Ruff.

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01-12-2012, 05:39 PM
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Regier would never fire Ruff because it isn't his decision. Regier didn't hire Ruff. Regier has never been involved in Ruff's contract negotiations. It's always been with the team president or owner. When has Regier ever stepped up on a podium and announced "we're please to announced the signing of Lindy Ruff"?

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Move to strike, speculative.

Nobody knows if Regier would never fire Ruff.
Oh yay, another lawyer joke/comment.

I'm sure someone can come up with the exact quote, but Regier has made it pretty clear that he won't get rid of Ruff.

Now, you don't have to believe him.

You can call him a liar.

You can point to his history of doing what ownership tells him, and assume that he'd fire Ruff if he was told to.

But I'm relatively (though not 100%) sure that he's on the record saying something very close to this, though probably not in those exact words.

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Well guys, now that it is out of the way, how do you feel Lindy Ruff would react to Regier being fired?

Would he show the loyalty in return or would he carry on with his normal business?

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01-12-2012, 07:16 PM
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When faced with self preservation, men are capable of AN-Y-THING. But I have a hunch that Ruff's job is far more secure than Regier's.

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When faced with self preservation, men are capable of AN-Y-THING. But I have a hunch that Ruff's job is far more secure than Regier's.
I see it that way as well.

If Regier was fired, he'd still be on Ruff's Christmas card list but Lindy probably wouldn't make a peep out of that situation.

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Depends on the specific circumstances, but I don't think Ruff would be obligated to leave if Regier gets given his walking papers.

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Oh yay, another lawyer joke/comment.

I'm sure someone can come up with the exact quote, but Regier has made it pretty clear that he won't get rid of Ruff.

Now, you don't have to believe him.

You can call him a liar.

You can point to his history of doing what ownership tells him, and assume that he'd fire Ruff if he was told to.

But I'm relatively (though not 100%) sure that he's on the record saying something very close to this, though probably not in those exact words.
I've had five people jump on comments I've made this week because I was 'speculating' . I'm simply returning the favor.

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01-13-2012, 06:59 AM
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Is it even Regier's decision to fire Ruff? If not, then this thread is pointless.

Just like several of them have been lately...

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01-13-2012, 07:29 AM
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Any quoted saying that they stay or go as a package? No? Didn't think so.

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Is it even Regier's decision to fire Ruff? If not, then this thread is pointless.

Just like several of them have been lately...

I don't know, you tell us. I know there are GM's around the league that have the power to fire their HC.

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Regier would never fire Ruff because it isn't his decision. Regier didn't hire Ruff. Regier has never been involved in Ruff's contract negotiations. It's always been with the team president or owner. When has Regier ever stepped up on a podium and announced "we're please to announced the signing of Lindy Ruff"?
Well this is our problem then.

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I don't know, you tell us. I know there are GM's around the league that have the power to fire their HC.
Actually, you're the one who started the thread. Shouldn't you know, or is this just another random coach/management/team bashing thread?

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Actually, you're the one who started the thread. Shouldn't you know, or is this just another random coach/management/team bashing thread?
Are you kidding me?

You can read, correct?

Go back and slowly read my original post and then answer your own question.

And, there is nothing random about discussing a GM that has been here for 14 seasons and his team is about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in 5 seasons and hasn't won a playoff series in 6 if this craptastic season continues.

Name me other GM's that have that track record and are still employed.

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Are you kidding me?

You can read, correct?

Go back and slowly read my original post and then answer your own question.

And, there is nothing random about discussing a GM that has been here for 14 seasons and his team is about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in 5 seasons and hasn't won a playoff series in 6 if this craptastic season continues.

Name me other GM's that have that track record and are still employed.
Dave Poile, perhaps?

The Preds have 1 playoff series win since the lockout, right?

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Dave Poile, perhaps?

The Preds have 1 playoff series win since the lockout, right?
I guess that would be about it. Maybe there is another but the number has to be minimal and the question of Regier being relieved from his duties at years end should not be the far fetched thing that some (not you) make it seem to be.

The only reason I made this thread is that if it happened, would Lindy feel the same loyalty to Darcy at it appears Darcy has for him?

Just curious if there is anything out there.

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Are you kidding me?

You can read, correct?

Go back and slowly read my original post and then answer your own question.

And, there is nothing random about discussing a GM that has been here for 14 seasons and his team is about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd time in 5 seasons and hasn't won a playoff series in 6 if this craptastic season continues.

Name me other GM's that have that track record and are still employed.
Yes, thank you. My reading comprehension is just fine, and please lay off the personal attacks. Have fun with your conversation.


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Yes, thank you. My reading comprehension is just fine, and please lay off the personal attacks. Have fun with your conversation.
Don't come off as some kind of victim here. You were the one spouting "pointless thread" and then carried it on further.

But, agreed, the bickering and sniping is silly when all I did was ask a question.


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Nobody knows if Regier would never fire Ruff.
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I'm fairly certain he has come out and explicitly said that he personally wouldn't fire Ruff.
Paul Hamilton has mentioned many times that he has expressly asked Regier in the past if he would ever fire Ruff and Regier told him that, as long as he's the GM, he wants Ruff to be his coach. Granted, it's only one media person but I can't see why he would report something like that and put his professional integrity on the line by making it up.

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