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01-12-2012, 05:52 AM
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I took the first version a couple years ago when I bought a bottle of it, and holy ****ing ****. I only did half a schoop, and it felt like I just beer bonged 25 Red Bulls. The only thing I didn't like about it, was that I could easily drink a gallon of water while on it at the gym... and then I'm pissing every 15 minutes till I go to bed afterwards, but if I didn't drink that much water, I'd feel dehydrated and like I was about to pass out.
Yeah I noticed I drink a bit more at the gym (1.5 litres in 75 minutes or so instead of 1 litre) so not too bad. But my god this stuff is ****ing awesome, had 2 hours the other day stuck in the same town as my gym, thought why not, took some of this, busted out a 2 hour session no problem, then played hour and a half of hockey after!

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So for someone that has never worked out before you recommend several exercises that rely HUGELY on form not to injure people.

I mean deadlifting with no instruction etc? Squats? Thats just a recipe to ruin your knees/back.

This is speaking from experience I had some friends that got me into the gym, started me off and after a month or two moved me on to deadlifts/squats. I learnt my squat technique correctly from them, I lacked the hamstring flexibility to do deadlifts off the floor with a flat back and they didn't spot this. Long story short my lower back bulked up strangely to protect my spine, saw a personal trainer and he identified this/told me to lift off blocks all before I damaged anything thankfully.

I'm just thankful I didn't damage anything because I have strong legs and so after about a month of deadlifting and only a couple at the gym I was lifting 130-140kg for both. So could really have done some damage.
To be fair, he should be watching all of these workouts on YouTube before going to the gym. At least that's what I'd be doing to make sure I knew what I was doing when I did show up to the gym.

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01-12-2012, 05:59 AM
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Yeah I noticed I drink a bit more at the gym (1.5 litres in 75 minutes or so instead of 1 litre) so not too bad. But my god this stuff is ****ing awesome, had 2 hours the other day stuck in the same town as my gym, thought why not, took some of this, busted out a 2 hour session no problem, then played hour and a half of hockey after!
I drink probably just a bit less than that on a regular basis, except for when I do squats.

That stuff is insane. I don't think I'd want to take it now to be honest, but while I was in college and could spend 2-3 hours at the gym it wasn't a problem. Right now I'm not sure I want to work 9-10 hours, then spend 2-3 more at the gym before going home. Right now I go for about an hour for weights, and then will go for a 2-3 mile run a couple times a week afterwards when I get home, and occasionally some ab workouts at home afterwards as well. Pretty happy with my routine, and it's good enough to keep me looking good.

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To be fair, he should be watching all of these workouts on YouTube before going to the gym. At least that's what I'd be doing to make sure I knew what I was doing when I did show up to the gym.
With stuff like deadlifts and squats I would say you need someone to show you, the rest sure youtube etc. But form on those two is key more so than others because the weight you lift compared to everything else.

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So for someone that has never worked out before you recommend several exercises that rely HUGELY on form not to injure people.

I mean deadlifting with no instruction etc? Squats? Thats just a recipe to ruin your knees/back.

This is speaking from experience I had some friends that got me into the gym, started me off and after a month or two moved me on to deadlifts/squats. I learnt my squat technique correctly from them, I lacked the hamstring flexibility to do deadlifts off the floor with a flat back and they didn't spot this. Long story short my lower back bulked up strangely to protect my spine, saw a personal trainer and he identified this/told me to lift off blocks all before I damaged anything thankfully.

I'm just thankful I didn't damage anything because I have strong legs and so after about a month of deadlifting and only a couple at the gym I was lifting 130-140kg for both. So could really have done some damage.
Obviously I'm not suggesting he start with huge weights, neither to perform these exercises without assistance. The best thing would be to hire a trainer to show all the exercises and start with small weights or no weights at all for a week or two to allow the body and muscles to get used to the exercises.

Being a beginner or not, he'll have to learn how to perform a deadlift if he wants to do some. Benching and curling for months beforehand will not help in learning how to properly perform a deadlift.

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With stuff like deadlifts and squats I would say you need someone to show you, the rest sure youtube etc. But form on those two is key more so than others because the weight you lift compared to everything else.
I don't disagree with that for a second, but he didn't mention he was getting a trainer... so given how expensive they are, I just assumed that wasn't in the picture right now.

Regardless, most trainers I see at my gym with new clients, they just start with the basics that everyone is aware of for the first week or two before they start to get into stuff like. Lots of leg and core exercises.

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I will second the interval training.

I've done it a few times out of curiosity. **** kills you.

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I don't disagree with that for a second, but he didn't mention he was getting a trainer... so given how expensive they are, I just assumed that wasn't in the picture right now.

Regardless, most trainers I see at my gym with new clients, they just start with the basics that everyone is aware of for the first week or two before they start to get into stuff like. Lots of leg and core exercises.
Agreed, they tend to go for max money for minimal help given.

Best bet is a friend who goes to the gym a lot then maybe get a session specifically to check form or something.

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Obviously I'm not suggesting he start with huge weights, neither to perform these exercises without assistance. The best thing would be to hire a trainer to show all the exercises and start with small weights or no weights at all for a week or two to allow the body and muscles to get used to the exercises.

Being a beginner or not, he'll have to learn how to perform a deadlift if he wants to do some. Benching and curling for months beforehand will not help in learning how to properly perform a deadlift.
Agreed. Deadlifts/squats are hugely beneficial.

Squat rack is probably my favourite piece of equipment in the gym, could spend an entire session just squatting!

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Agreed, they tend to go for max money for minimal help given.

Best bet is a friend who goes to the gym a lot then maybe get a session specifically to check form or something.
Yeah, I'd go to the gym for a little bit first and do what I know I can correctly. Observe a few other people, look up what you might need help in doing properly... then get a traine, and tell him this is what you want to know how to do.

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Agreed. Deadlifts/squats are hugely beneficial.

Squat rack is probably my favourite piece of equipment in the gym, could spend an entire session just squatting!

Same, although my knee has been a little cranky lately. Was still able to do squats for a good 20-25 minutes yesterday.

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If you can dig the pain, this workout will work 100/100 times. Even after 30 days I was in awe with what was going on. I couldnt handle the workouts tho, guess i didnt want it bad enough.

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I just bought and started the "Insanity" Workout DVD's. After day 2 and I am already in a boat load of pain in my legs (and am in alright shape)

Has anybody tried these before?

Also back in university I used NO explode before the gym and wow that stuff is potent. I could only take it for a couple weeks and had to stop, it was aming me sick and massive headaches.

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Maybe 10 pounds? It's different for me, I'm not a heavy eater. I'm trying to lose all fat (especially anything in my stomach area) and get it back in muscle.

I sure wouldn't go with pill supplements, I find all of them garbage. My wife and I have tried several and none of them showed any effects other than negative.
You have to put either build muscle or lose fat. You can't do both at the same time EFFECTIVELY. In the beginning it's easier but long term you will struggle to increase your strength and lose a good amount of fat.

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Maybe 10 pounds? It's different for me, I'm not a heavy eater. I'm trying to lose all fat (especially anything in my stomach area) and get it back in muscle.

I sure wouldn't go with pill supplements, I find all of them garbage. My wife and I have tried several and none of them showed any effects other than negative.
Good luck.

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Uhhh... I've done this for several months now and I've gained muscle.... and weight.
Eating under 2000 cal's every day and gaining 10 pounds in several months? Sounds like BS.

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All the jocks at my school take all kinds of **** to help them bulk up...

What the hell happened to simply watching what you eat, drinking lots of water, and exercising religiously?

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Eating under 2000 cal's every day and gaining 10 pounds in several months? Sounds like BS.
Where did I say I eat under 2000?

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I get some insane itching all over my body when my body warms up (not just for work outs, but any intense sport in general). I went to the doctor and he basically told me to apply more moisturizer. It helps a bit but doesn't neutralize the itching completely. Anyone know what's going on?

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For some reason the quote function isn't working for me...

But I started doing Insanity maybe 4 weeks ago? I'm about to start the recovery week on Saturday.

I haven't exactly lost weight, but I look better than I ever have. I'm really losing belly fat and becoming flat. As far as the pain, I drink a small protein shake right after the workout and it does the trick. I'm not sore at all the next day, even with playing 1-2 hours of racquetball daily after doing Insanity in the morning.

Maybe try including the protein to eliminate the soreness?

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