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01-12-2012, 11:06 PM
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No need to defend and protect Gauthier after every single move.

I mean, say what you want, but a good GM isn't one that you have to keep reminding everyone how good they are.

Actions speak for themselves.
Everyone thought the Halak trade was bad at the time....

Food for thought.

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01-12-2012, 11:08 PM
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Gauthier is Reggie Houle part 2

Mike Cammalleri
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Rene Bourque
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How does the Habs pay a first and second round pick for a 5.5 million dollar Alex Tanguay ,YET only get's a 2nd round pick for Cammalleri???




Also what was the rush to trade Cammalleri? Why not closer to deadline?You don't think a CONTENDER would have offered us alot better deal?

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01-12-2012, 11:09 PM
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@ Carey Price.

Rene Bourque is bigger. So is Hal Gill.

Once and for all. We need tougher players.

You think Bourque will drop the gloves to fight Lucic for harassing Subban? What about Bourque taking on Thornton for getting after Eller?

Stop with your false projections. Thanks.
Name some players in the league who score 25 goals and can take on a Lucic or Thornton.

Besides Lucic.

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01-12-2012, 11:09 PM
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You watch hockey, as a fan, to be entertained. We lose a playoff hero and exciting player (who was having a rough season, I'll admit) for a grinder. Who can we get excited about right now, on this team? Only one I can think of is Price.

Who's gonna make us drop what we were doing and focus on the game?

By the way, Bourque doesn't really hit. He's one of those big players who don't play all that physical. Not sure how he makes us a tougher team...

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01-12-2012, 11:11 PM
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Best part is that 2nd will be a late first practically. Calgary will fall off the face of the earth next year.

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01-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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Tanguay actually was a much more effective player than Cammalleri, only reason he wasnt brought back Gainey was furious when he wouldn't play in the first round vs. Boston with the separated shoulder. Straight up, Cammalleri is probably worth the same as Tanguay. But Tanguay was trade at the draft, when team's have all summer to manouevre cap space. You;'re not gonna trade a 6 million dollar player like Cammy mid season without getting salary back.

Big, strong winger with nose for the net and goal scoring abilities for 3 million less than a guy who had a wonderful playoffs two years ago and people are complaining. Whatever.

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01-12-2012, 11:12 PM
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terrible trade. Welcome anyway Rene...

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01-12-2012, 11:13 PM
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bourque seemed to play well against the habs as a flames player. Maybe he likes the bell centre, and that might be a motivator to establish more consistency. It has worked well with Erik Cole so far.

I've been a fan of his in the past, and I think the habs actually did okay here, considering the circumstances.

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01-12-2012, 11:14 PM
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Calgary will probably be terrible next year and the 2013 draft is supposed to be extremely deep. So waiting a year for that pick just might be worth it.

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01-12-2012, 11:14 PM
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As far as I'm concerned Gauthier can EAD.

We're beyond the point of salvaging the season, he needs to be realistic and throw the towel, Bourque will be 33,34 when his contract expires, another long term deal for a questionable player.

I don't care how big he is, my beef is trading for a slightly inferior player when we should have simply asked for picks or prospects, the UFA pools have been weaker every year lately and with crap like manifestations against an English speaking coach even weaker UFA's will think twice about signing here.

This will lead to more crappy UFA's being overpaid and us being sn 8th,9th,10th seed. At one point they need to realize that tanking is the best option for now, unless your drafting has been spot on and your pro scouting too. Well our drafting has been good i'd say but our pro scouting has been a disaster, whoever is in charge needs to get lynched in front of the bell center after every loss.

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01-12-2012, 11:14 PM
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the Habs gm gave up a SECOND ROUNDER to get Dominic Mooore...

that is all he got back for Cammy!



what a JOKE

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01-12-2012, 11:16 PM
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01-12-2012, 11:18 PM
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I would've like to see a 2nd come our way this coming draft, but overall I like this trade (I don't love it). We gave up nothing in the 5th and Ramo's rights, and I think Cammalleri couldn't thrive here, he needs a different situation then here. What we got back is great though. 2nd rounder is sweet, holland and ramo are a great swap for us, and Bourque, though his ceiling isn't as high as cammy, fits the teams needs perfectly.

I know he "doesn't hit",etc but adding one more big body to the top6 will make a difference to the way we organize the forward lines. Even if Bourque plays no better than Cam, we saved roughly 3mil, and thats probably the best part of this trade: getting rid of one of the heavier contracts on our salary cap. Much easier to swallow a 3.3mil contract for a few more years than a 6mil one.

Here's hoping they continue dealing away some of the dead weight and focus on rebuilding through the youth core we have and the upcoming draft.

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01-12-2012, 11:19 PM
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Yes . I'm real....

Gauthier "moves" will set back Montreal for next 5-7 years..

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01-12-2012, 11:20 PM
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Not a bad trade too bad the 2nd wasn't for this season. I always liked Bourque but the Habs aren't really better with this trade. Still plenty of holes

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01-12-2012, 11:22 PM
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@ Carey Price.

Rene Bourque is bigger. So is Hal Gill.

Once and for all. We need tougher players.

You think Bourque will drop the gloves to fight Lucic for harassing Subban? What about Bourque taking on Thornton for getting after Eller?

Stop with your false projections. Thanks.
OMG that post was soooo stupid


its not just dropping the gloves.
add a Steve MacIntyre type of player to a group like Max Pac, Cole, Bourque, Moen, AK, Ellers, Emelin and things are differents


now add Steve MacIntyre to Gionta,DD, Pleks, Weber, Diaz, Cammy, etc and nothing will change ala Laraque

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01-12-2012, 11:24 PM
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Bourque has bad work ethic ...just wait and see. We got destroyed in this trade.
How did you like Cammy's work ethic? Just curious.

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01-12-2012, 11:25 PM
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I'm having a hard time getting excited for this trade because:

-We traded the better player
-Rene Bourque is big, but doesn't use his body as much as you'd like.
-Coming to Montreal = Production drop
-Length of the contract, the salary cap is perfect, but I'm not sure Bourque will even be worth his salary in Montreal.
-Has motivation issues at 30 years old
-Bourque will come in a ****** situation having a ****** season.
-Not sure if Pierre Gauthier made the right decision trading Cammalleri right away. He said the deal was being discussed for at least a month, but I find it funny that he's traded exactly the day after his comments.
-I like the second round pick, but it's for 2013.
-Gauthier says he still believes this team's playoffs probabilities. Therefore, more trades can be expected.

I'm feeling meh, but I'll wait to see Bourque's and Cammalleri's contributions to their new team before judging the trade.

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01-12-2012, 11:28 PM
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Have you seen how much better this team looked when Lang played, or when Kostitsyn doesn't have typhus or when we signed Cole?

Bourque is probably the biggest guy we could've gotten and people are still pissed.

I'm so glad we got him, it's rejuvenated my fandom.

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01-12-2012, 11:29 PM
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@ Carey Price.

Rene Bourque is bigger. So is Hal Gill.

Once and for all. We need tougher players.

You think Bourque will drop the gloves to fight Lucic for harassing Subban? What about Bourque taking on Thornton for getting after Eller?

Stop with your false projections. Thanks.
Do you intend to drown us all in your river of tears?

The funny thing is if Gainey was the GM Montreal would be the team giving up the picks and prospects for a sagging overpaid player.

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01-12-2012, 11:32 PM
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Gauthier says he realized Canadiens need size.

that is what he said TONIGHT .....




a total 180 from his "our small player got big hearts" crap ....

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A lack of size has been a concern for fans in Montreal, but Gauthier said the Canadiens' playoff run this year showed "we have guys with big hearts."


worse Gm in NHL is Gauthier.....


For icing a small team they way he did and allow them to get punished, only to flip flop...


He should be ashamed..

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01-12-2012, 11:34 PM
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I'm having a hard time getting excited for this trade because:

-We traded the better player
-Rene Bourque is big, but doesn't use his body as much as you'd like.
-Coming to Montreal = Production drop
-Length of the contract, the salary cap is perfect, but I'm not sure Bourque will even be worth his salary in Montreal.
-Has motivation issues at 30 years old
-Bourque will come in a ****** situation having a ****** season.
-Not sure if Pierre Gauthier made the right decision trading Cammalleri right away. He said the deal was being discussed for at least a month, but I find it funny that he's traded exactly the day after his comments.
-I like the second round pick, but it's for 2013.
-Gauthier says he still believes this team's playoffs probabilities. Therefore, more trades can be expected.

I'm feeling meh, but I'll wait to see Bourque's and Cammalleri's contributions to their new team before judging the trade.
Seriously? Myth..

It happens for some players and not for others. Cole and Gionta's level of play has been similar or even better in Montreal. Kaberle's offense has been good since arriving here (his defense is still Kraperle). Cammalleri's died down, Gomez's died down (something is wrong here though).

Give Bourque a chance, atleast we shed 2.7M off the cap. Hopefully this makes us worse this year and we get NAIL YAKUPOV.

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01-12-2012, 11:35 PM
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L ike I said in the other thread, I hope he wears #77 to troll the Bruins fans.

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01-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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Gauthier is Reggie Houle part 2

Mike Cammalleri
533 games 406 pts


Rene Bourque
432 Games 239 pts




How does the Habs pay a first and second round pick for a 5.5 million dollar Alex Tanguay ,YET only get's a 2nd round pick for Cammalleri???




Also what was the rush to trade Cammalleri? Why not closer to deadline?You don't think a CONTENDER would have offered us alot better deal?
Please look at the stats of Cammy vs Bourque in the last 3 seasons. Bourque has more goals and points.

Cammy got his big seasons with LA and Calg.

6 million $ this year, 7 next for a guy going downhill...

GOOD TRADE !

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01-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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I don't get how you guys are happy. Bourque is slow! He only had 2 good years his whole career. He;s 30 years old and he's signed until 2015 !!
I don't really see how speed is so important. It's our strength on the forecheck and our ability to win battles in front of the net that is clearly the biggest weakness on the team. Rene Bourque will help a ton with that. I think this is a really god trade, and a definite step in the right direction.

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