he's doing pretty amazing...after the world cup, i'd venture the guess that swedens national team is now his from this point onwards
and hopefully we'll see him next year getting ready for a shot in NY...honestly i like montoya but if lundqvist can come in and be the franchise goalie the rangers need, fantastic. if not, at least we got montoya in there as well
That's just insane! Personally I think the Rangers have the best goaltending depth in the league. Blackburn, Montoya, an Lundqvist all have starting goalie potential.
How difficult is the league he is in? What quality player has he faced?
well to begin with he is in his own age division , so i would say he is doing ok plus he is playing against people of even skill level and he is putting up GREAT numbers.
didnt he just play in some competition b4 the world cup and played aginst a ton of NHL'ers and put up solid #'s then also. i mean the kid is looking like the real deal and if NYR could get him to Hrtfd next year and let him play against some ex-NHL'ers and get some north american rink time, then we will really get an idea of what this kid could do.
To me he is really sounding like a great pick for NYR and an absolute steal, if he keeps it up and adjust's to the NA game this kid cold wind up being a bigger steal and better player than lehtonen and he is suppose to be a real franchise player.Lunqvist if plays the same type of game for Ny could be a real franchise player as NYR does have some great prospects in the system like blackburn, montoya and even labarbera( who had an incredible AHL season last year).
think about it, if one of lund, blackiE or montoya become outr #1 and the other 2 pan out right theN NYR has 2 starting #1 goal tenders on the block to move, and they could get them first rounders or 1st line or even second line fwds or even #2 or #3 d-men, thats if sather plays his cards right hopefully when that time comes he will be gone WAY GONE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY. ACTUALLY THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY.
well to begin with he is in his own age division , so i would say he is doing ok plus he is playing against people of even skill level and he is putting up GREAT numbers.
didnt he just play in some competition b4 the world cup and played aginst a ton of NHL'ers and put up solid #'s then also. i mean the kid is looking like the real deal and if NYR could get him to Hrtfd next year and let him play against some ex-NHL'ers and get some north american rink time, then we will really get an idea of what this kid could do.
He's playing with Frolunda in the swedish elite league, the same league that Peter Forsberg, Zdeno Chara, ect. are playing in.
He's playing with Frolunda in the swedish elite league, the same league that Peter Forsberg, Zdeno Chara, ect. are playing in.
thanks for the info.
well if so then that makes him look even better, than just playing with players of his skill level dont know if he played any games against anyone of the nhl yet , but im sure he will be solid and play just as well. the only problem would be him adjusting to the NA rinks as everyting is in so tight.
I think so, maybe I am wrong though, but the shooting angles are better in NHL size rinks.
im a little confused
i think the bigger rink creates more room and more scoring opportunities, if it wasnt why was the NHL thinking about increasing the size of NHL rinks some what of 15 ft or so wider and longer, that would be to create more opportunities as players like kariya, heatley ,kovalchuk etc.. would have more room to skate and make moves.
bigger rinks means more skating room and for such players with speed and finesse it would do them great, i think it would be more excting games, but if the rinks were bigger im sure more drills concerning cardio would be involved saying that since more larger of a surafce to skate would be getting use to for some i would think.
i think the bigger rink creates more room and more scoring opportunities, if it wasnt why was the NHL thinking about increasing the size of NHL rinks some what of 15 ft or so wider and longer, that would be to create more opportunities as players like kariya, heatley ,kovalchuk etc.. would have more room to skate and make moves.
bigger rinks means more skating room and for such players with speed and finesse it would do them great, i think it would be more excting games, but if the rinks were bigger im sure more drills concerning cardio would be involved saying that since more larger of a surafce to skate would be getting use to for some i would think.
in larger rinks there is definitely more room, lees trapping, less clutching and grabbing, but I don't think necessarily more scoring. PP probably becomes more important.
in larger rinks there is definitely more room, lees trapping, less clutching and grabbing, but I don't think necessarily more scoring. PP probably becomes more important.
Dude, more room means more room to operated scoring chances.
Dude, more room means more room to operated scoring chances.
Actually, I think Prucha is right. The larger ice leads to defesive schemes, more clutching and grabbing, and discourage shooting from outside. If you look at European games, the players generally wait until they are in certain points on the ice before they shoot, whereas in North America, players shoot from all over the ice. The bigger ice surface allows for more room, but it doesn't necessarily mean more scoring chances.
Actually, I think Prucha is right. The larger ice leads to defesive schemes, more clutching and grabbing.
No, smaller rinks = more grabbing because bodies are closer together. Wider rinks opens scoring up because players have more room to manuvure and they dont run into a body everywhere.
but I don't believe there's a lot more scoring in those games than the NHL games. In fact (or maybe just belief), scoring may actually be lower on average in the SEL. The bigger ice rinks do no necessarily mean more scoring.
No, smaller rinks = more grabbing because bodies are closer together. Wider rinks opens scoring up because players have more room to manuvure and they dont run into a body everywhere.
On the contrary, small rinks = more hitting because of closer bodies. On the wider ice, it's harder to lay a clean hit, and if the defenceman loses more if he lets you get by, because it's harder to recover. That leads to clutching and grabbing.
It also makes positional play more important on defence. Thus, you generally get conservative defensive systems.
but I don't believe there's a lot more scoring in those games than the NHL games. In fact (or maybe just belief), scoring may actually be lower on average in the SEL. The bigger ice rinks do no necessarily mean more scoring.
You were just waiting for me to come up with an answer here right? There's been 222 goals scored so far in the SEL in 42 games, that works out to be 5.29 goals a game, compared to the NHL's average of 5.14 in last year's regular season.
Interestingly, Frolunda has given up just 7 goals in 7 games which of course works out to be 1.00 goals a game, the rest of the league is averaging 2.79 goals against a game.
Lundqvist beat out the second best goalie in the league today, Rostislav Stana..or rather he was the 2nd best goalie, he's now third. Lundqvist is head and shoulders over everyone else at the moment:
Well you could perhaps use the save percentage statistic to help you with that...especially if you take into account the number of shots give up...only one goaltender has made more saves than Lundqvist (Stana) and only two have faced more shots overall (Stana and Liv).
If you look at it in terms of shots/minute and multiply it by 60 minutes then this is the top 12:
Johan Holmqvist - 32 - Minnesota
Tero Leinonen - 32
Rastislav Stana - 31 - Washington
Tommy Salo - 31 - Unsigned, most recently of Colorado
Andreas Hadelöv - 30
Stefan Liv - 29 - Detroit Henrik Lundqvist - 29 - New York (R)
Gusten Törnqvist - 28
Fredrik Norrena - 27 - Tampa Bay
Bjorn Bjurling - 26 - Edmonton
Daniel Henriksson - 24
Miikka Kiprusoff - 22 - Calgary
How difficult is the league he is in? What quality player has he faced?
so far he has faced olli jokinen, peter & chris ferraro, dick tarnstrom, peter popovic, nicklas havelid, andreas dackell, peter forsberg, deniel sedin, henrik sedin, alexander steen, mattias weinhandl, mattias timander, kristian huselius, mike knuble, brendan morrison
Well you could perhaps use the save percentage statistic to help you with that...especially if you take into account the number of shots give up...only one goaltender has made more saves than Lundqvist (Stana) and only two have faced more shots overall (Stana and Liv).
If you look at it in terms of shots/minute and multiply it by 60 minutes then this is the top 12:
Johan Holmqvist - 32 - Minnesota
Tero Leinonen - 32
Rastislav Stana - 31 - Washington
Tommy Salo - 31 - Unsigned, most recently of Colorado
Andreas Hadelöv - 30
Stefan Liv - 29 - Detroit Henrik Lundqvist - 29 - New York (R)
Gusten Törnqvist - 28
Fredrik Norrena - 27 - Tampa Bay
Bjorn Bjurling - 26 - Edmonton
Daniel Henriksson - 24
Miikka Kiprusoff - 22 - Calgary
Darn... Thanks again, Fish.
It looks like Frölunda might be a bit complacent with Lundqvist in net.
