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01-07-2013, 03:27 AM
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Aren't interviews out of Russia notorious for word twisting?
Later I actually heard a video interview.Newspaper pretty much published the same thing. In reality questions were a bit more precise. And overall... interview was not so gloomy as it sounds. Datsyuk certainly didn't sound upset that he has to go to Detroit.

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01-07-2013, 03:37 AM
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Nah. Pretty sure that all Russians are friends with each other.
Based on what? As far as I know Datsyuk is good friends with Bryzgalov and Kovalchuk. Don't know about the others.

And I would not be surprised if Datsyuk doesn't like Semin or Ovechkin for example. Datsyuk is modest, intelligent, religious, likes to read books and his approach to hockey is different.

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01-07-2013, 03:51 AM
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As far as I know Datsyuk is good friends with Bryzgalov and Kovalchuk. Don't know about the others.

And I would not be surprised if Datsyuk doesn't like Semin or Ovechkin for example. Datsyuk is modest, intelligent, religious, likes to read books and his approach to hockey is different.
Just because you don't like Semin, doesn't mean anyone else doesn't as well. Datsyuk calls Semin "soul guy" and also speaks very warmly about Ovechkin. They also played in the same line in the Worlds.


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01-07-2013, 03:58 AM
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Just because you don't like Semin, doesn't mean anyone else doesn't as well. Datsyuk calls Semin "soul guy" and also speaks very warmly about Ovechkin. They also played in the same line in the Worlds.

Where I said that I don't like Semin? I just never heard that Datsyuk is friends with either of them. Nor I have ever heard about any conflicts between them. They probably get along just fine, but that's it. I just meant that it's somewhat wrong to say that all Russians are great pals. And really... playing on the same line is meaningless. Coaches decide with whom they should play.

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01-07-2013, 04:27 AM
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Where I said that I don't like Semin? I just never heard that Datsyuk is friends with either of them. Nor I have ever heard about any conflicts between them. They probably get along just fine, but that's it. I just meant that it's somewhat wrong to say that all Russians are great pals. And really... playing on the same line is meaningless. Coaches decide with whom they should play.
It's not meaningless, hard to imagine any players disliking each other in Bilyaletdinov's team, especially on the same line. He has a history of dealing with such cases.

They may not be best friends as their personalities are different, but all team Russia players usually say they are buddies with all of each other.

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01-07-2013, 04:43 AM
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It would be stupid to sign Russians just because of Datsyuk. It's not like there aren't Russians in the Detroit metro he could hang out with etc. if he wanted to do so, there's Russian restaurants and so forth as well. You can put the team full of Russians and there'd still be more of them in Moscow. Detroit won't ever be "home", so if he wants to finish his career at home, that would be a fact of life.

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01-07-2013, 12:14 PM
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It would be stupid to sign Russians just because of Datsyuk. It's not like there aren't Russians in the Detroit metro he could hang out with etc. if he wanted to do so, there's Russian restaurants and so forth as well. You can put the team full of Russians and there'd still be more of them in Moscow. Detroit won't ever be "home", so if he wants to finish his career at home, that would be a fact of life.
Let's not pretend that Semin is a random player, who would only have been signed by Detroit because he happens to be a compatriot of Datsyuk. Semin is a very skilled player, whose citizenship obviously led NHL teams to be more critical of signing him.

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Semin is a very skilled player, whose citizenship obviously led NHL teams to be more critical of signing him.
or maybe it's because he's been known to take games off and his less than stellar play in the defensive zone

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or maybe it's because he's been known to take games off and his less than stellar play in the defensive zone
Semin isn't awful defensively, he's average. That's a myth.

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Agreed WW87. For the life of me can't figure out why Holland wouldn't get a fellow Russian for Pav. Semin would've been perfect too, reasonable price for his skill and small term. I'd absolutely have taken him for what the Canes got him for. With Pav I think we'd have seen his better side as well.

Holland keeps bringing in Swedes and Czech's because we have good swede and czech leadership and create a good culture and make things comfortable. Why not 1 Russian for Pav? Especially as vocal as Pav has been about wanting more russians on the team and his remarks about missing Russia. I honestly, speculatively, don't think he'll resign after this contract.
i don't follow these things very much, but when has datsyuk said he wants more russians on the team?

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Isn't it possible that Datsyuk doesn't like Semin?
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01-07-2013, 12:55 PM
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Datsyuk would definitely prefer not wasting his last remaining good years feeding the puck to Bertuzzi.

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Semin isn't awful defensively, he's average. That's a myth.
Yes.. when he wants. One of the better players D wise for Caps during the playoffs last year.

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Semin would be a big improvement for the roster but he wouldn't put this team over the top and hence you could question the wisdom of the investment. There's little point in spending loads of money to go from average to above average.

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Semin would be a big improvement for the roster but he wouldn't put this team over the top and hence you could question the wisdom of the investment. There's little point in spending loads of money to go from average to above average.
I disagree, if it makes your team better and is only a one-year deal, there's no downside to the signing, even if it doesn't put you over the top.

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Semin would be a big improvement for the roster but he wouldn't put this team over the top and hence you could question the wisdom of the investment. There's little point in spending loads of money to go from average to above average.
So you didn't want Suter either?

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01-07-2013, 09:17 PM
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Semin would be a big improvement for the roster but he wouldn't put this team over the top and hence you could question the wisdom of the investment. There's little point in spending loads of money to go from average to above average.
The Caps didn't have good veteran core, they're young and sometimes Semin would look atrocious or invisible or have freak injuries that he seemed to belabor. On the Red Wings, I'm sure Datsyuk would have him reigned in and he would have been an exceptional player.

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So you didn't want Suter either?
See, if you talked about Suter and Semin we'd be talking. We definitely need better D to compete and signing Semin alone doesn't change that, similarly signing just a D-man to replace Lidstrom might not be enough either given how toothless our forwards have been often.

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There's no Datsyuk at CSKA's lineup today. I think the magician has left the building.

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Good for Wings. He needs to keep his energy

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The Datsyuk in some of those KHL videos looks a few years younger. I think the break and playing in the KHL was rejuvenating for him. Not sure if he can keep that spirit when he gets back though.

As far as his relationship with Ovi and Semin, as someone living in the DC area, I can say with certainty that the three of them made plans to spend together after the Wings' last game tin DC. Doubt they would reach out to each other before the game and make plans for post-game if they were anything but friends.

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The Datsyuk in some of those KHL videos looks a few years younger. I think the break and playing in the KHL was rejuvenating for him. Not sure if he can keep that spirit when he gets back though.

As far as his relationship with Ovi and Semin, as someone living in the DC area, I can say with certainty that the three of them made plans to spend together after the Wings' last game tin DC. Doubt they would reach out to each other before the game and make plans for post-game if they were anything but friends.
He'll need that energy when he finishes his career in the KHL

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"There is no reason to fear (IIHF's sanctions against players who decide to stay)"

"NHL's opinion of itself is so high... OK, let them get drunk on their greatness. We'll see how many Euros look our way"

"Our league will act according to our own and international rules. If players decide to stay, we will help them."

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Not good... Lets hope Pavs stays committed to Detroit.

I know he loves it there but ripping off your team that has done so much for you would be pretty classless. That being said, he could quite possibly come to Detroit this season.

I don't know how my perception of him would change if he stays.


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Not good... Lets hope Pavs stays committed to Detroit.

I know he loves it there but ripping off your team that has done so much for you would be pretty classless. That being said, he could quite possibly come to Detroit this season.

I don't know how my perception of him would change if he stays.
Datsyuk's my favorite player in the NHL by far. But if he were to walk out on the Wings, he would be dead to me. This is all just speculation. Pavel's an intelligent man of strong character. He won't leave us yet.

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I get the feeling Kovy is the one most inclined to stay in Russia and then they drag Pavel, Malkin and who else into it to make it sound more threatening. Ovechkin was supposedly in that group of Russian players aswell and he was one of the first players to jump on a plane back.. So much for that.

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