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01-13-2012, 04:13 PM
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Panthers president Yormak interview with Forbes

Key points from the interview:

- Panthers TV ratings have more than doubled
- Attendance is up
- Sponsorships are up
- Single game ticket sales are up (i think it was 93%)


Team seems to be doing well with just half a seasons worth of success after 10 years of putrid play. Imagine if they had a legitimate contender year-in-year-out?

Move then to Quebec!


http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...-more-revenue/

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I guess it cant go down all the time.... althought i heard Phoenix officials say this year is much better for them as well. Will see where Phoenix will play next year...

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I guess it cant go down all the time.... althought i heard Phoenix officials say this year is much better for them as well. Will see where Phoenix will play next year...
If they can find an owner - they will be in Phoenix. That isn't the point, though, Phoenix is a totally different situation with a much different lease. These two situations aren't comparable [mod].


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I wonder what the TV rating are for the Panthers?

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I wonder what the TV rating are for the Panthers?
I recall a thread last year about how infomercials had more viewers than the Panthers...not sure if that's still the case.

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I read somewhere that Panthers and Coyotes had Tv ratings of close to 10000

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Key points from the interview:

- Panthers TV ratings have more than doubled
- Attendance is up
- Sponsorships are up
- Single game ticket sales are up (i think it was 93%)


Team seems to be doing well with just half a seasons worth of success after 10 years of putrid play. Imagine if they had a legitimate contender year-in-year-out?

Move then to Quebec!


http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...-more-revenue/
thanks to the snowbirds

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thanks to the snowbirds
snowbirds are here every year - that doesn't alter the attendance figures from year to year. there was no more canadiens/rangers fans this year than there was last season. nice try though.

pathetic how people try and find every excuse they possibly can to try and chastise southern markets.

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panthers are actually good this year, enough said... That's what it takes in southern markets, good teams and the panthers have been **** for a long time

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I wonder what the TV rating are for the Panthers?
It was an abysmal .19 last year, or by comparison, less than a late night infomercial. Even if the TV rating have doubled, as Yormark suggests, they would still likely be the worst in the league.

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panthers are actually good this year, enough said... That's what it takes in southern markets, good teams and the panthers have been **** for a long time
this is what I was thinking... if you win more people will go. but when you start to lose the bandwagon will empty... fast. but good news for the nhl

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snowbirds are here every year - that doesn't alter the attendance figures from year to year. there was no more canadiens/rangers fans this year than there was last season. nice try though.

pathetic how people try and find every excuse they possibly can to try and chastise southern markets.

sorry, thanks to the new snowbirds

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Panthers' TV ratings have doubled, eh? Last published figures I've seen they had 13,400 viewers per game (that's not households, but an estimate on the actual number of people watching). Doubling a tiny number is not all that impressive.

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pathetic how people try and find every excuse they possibly can to try and chastise southern markets.
Not from this quarter...

Interesting, and thanks for posting the link to the interview. Admittedly, ratings have been abysmal for quite some time however thats really rather moot IMO, ditto on the attendance. Anemic thanks to a combination of lousy management/coaching & location. But for sure, since Yormarks' arrival the building itself has been performing extremely well, giving the organization some air to breathe while Dale Tallon cleans up the mess on the ice left by his predecessors. Last I heard, Siegel was looking to sell. I suppose Yormarks' making the rounds with good news is all part of a prospecting campaign to find another investor or two. Id like to see them succeed, though it wasnt until a few years ago that I felt that way.


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Interesting - you gotta spend money to make money, eh?

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Panthers' TV ratings have doubled, eh? Last published figures I've seen they had 13,400 viewers per game (that's not households, but an estimate on the actual number of people watching). Doubling a tiny number is not all that impressive.
ever heard of the expression "rome wasn't built in a day"? it's been half a season of success as apposed to 10 consecutive years of abysmal hockey.

another crowd of 18,500+ tonight, although the play the panthers showed was awfully reminiscent of years past. terrible showing.

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Not from this quarter...

Interesting, and thanks for posting the link to the interview. Admittedly, ratings have been abysmal for quite some time however thats really rather moot IMO, ditto on the attendance. Anemic thanks to a combination of lousy management/coaching & location. But for sure, since Yormarks' arrival the building itself has been performing extremely well, giving the organization some air to breathe while Dale Tallon cleans up the mess on the ice left by his predecessors. Last I heard, Viner was looking to sell. I suppose Yormarks' making the rounds with good news is all part of a prospecting campaign to find another investor or two. Id like to see them succeed, though it wasnt until a few years ago that I felt that way.
viner was looking to sell? i don't remember that....i remember cohen looking to sell 2 years ago and viner/seigel took over as general partners (with seigel relinquishing full control not too long after)

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viner was looking to sell? i don't remember that....i remember cohen looking to sell 2 years ago and viner/seigel took over as general partners (with seigel relinquishing full control not too long after)
Ooops, sorry about that. I meant Siegel. Heres a link to the story and theres a thread here on the boh boards that was started on the subject when it came up earlier this month.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/video/366737...HC-Sources-Say
http://twitter.com/stusiegel

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13,400?

That's gotta be wrong. How can it be so low?

In my city of 275,000 there's probably 50,000 on average watching hockey on a given Saturday.

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The Panthers will move at some point i am pretty sure. They just wont keep on finding owners who are willing to lose a ton of money every year. I hear Carolina still havenet found someone to buy the minory shares that are for sale. As soon as Karmanos retires or die this franchise will move. Same as for the Florida owner

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Ooops, sorry about that. I meant Siegel. Heres a link to the story and theres a thread here on the boh boards that was started on the subject when it came up earlier this month.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/video/366737...HC-Sources-Say
http://twitter.com/stusiegel
my computer is awful so the video wont play for me. what does it say? last i heard, siegel was only a minor partner of our ownership group , so i dont forsee it as a big deal if hes looking to sell off his part.

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Panthers' TV ratings have doubled, eh? Last published figures I've seen they had 13,400 viewers per game (that's not households, but an estimate on the actual number of people watching). Doubling a tiny number is not all that impressive.
It was 3000 households so now that would be 6000 households. Still a ways to go but a definate baby step in the right direction.

I would hazard to guess that a team like the Winnipeg Jets are drawing similar numbers in places like Brandon and Thompson Manitoba.

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my computer is awful so the video wont play for me. what does it say? last i heard, siegel was only a minor partner of our ownership group , so i dont forsee it as a big deal if hes looking to sell off his part.
Not much really. Just that he's a minority partner & wishes to move on. Nothing earth shattering. The other links to his twitter account with plenty of "thanks" and "best wishes" from his friends & supporters in South Florida, and if you scroll down you'll see his comments confirming his intention to sell... I dont know that the timings the greatest, what with the possibility of a lockout or work stoppage next October combined with a sluggish economy but who knows?. Depends on how many shares he's got, price etc. Yormarks quite the salesman so I wouldnt sweat it.

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The Panthers will move at some point i am pretty sure.
No.... they won't. Do you realize how much money there is down here? No way does the NHL abandon South Florida in the forseeable future. Hell, if its taken the league this long to finally give up on Phoenix (and only are they willing to give up on it since no one wants to own a team there) then there is no way the Panthers are going anywhere. Besides, as has been mentioned many times on this board, the Panthers have a sweetheart arena deal where they pocket revenue from non-hockey related events. Phoenix on the other hand is merely a tenant and doesn't see any non-hockey related revenue. No way are the two teams situations the same.

I would put the Panthers in the same category as say... Nashville. A team that is finally starting to turn the corner despite years of mismanagement. As someone else so eloquently put it, Rome wasn't built in a day.

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No.... they won't. Do you realize how much money there is down here? No way does the NHL abandon South Florida in the forseeable future. Hell, if its taken the league this long to finally give up on Phoenix (and only are they willing to give up on it since no one wants to own a team there) then there is no way the Panthers are going anywhere. Besides, as has been mentioned many times on this board, the Panthers have a sweetheart arena deal where they pocket revenue from non-hockey related events. Phoenix on the other hand is merely a tenant and doesn't see any non-hockey related revenue. No way are the two teams situations the same.

I would put the Panthers in the same category as say... Nashville. A team that is finally starting to turn the corner despite years of mismanagement. As someone else so eloquently put it, Rome wasn't built in a day.
I believe that to be completely untrue. The NHL are currently being paid an arena management fee in Glendale (25 million) and also get to keep all the revenues from concerts, trade shows, bull riding etc...The COG receives some revenues through a ticket surcharge but the owners (NHL) keep all the revenues generated at jobing.com.

Florida appears to be a healthier market than Phoenix and the Panthers are not going anywhere in the near future.

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