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01-11-2012, 08:53 AM
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Luke Schenn coming to Philly? (Frank Seravalli, Philadelphia Daily News)

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...to-Philly.html

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This time, the Flyers are in the market for a depth defenseman to fill Chris Pronger’s void. Fittingly, the Maple Leafs have a few pieces on their blue line that could move.

The most interesting is Luke Schenn, the older brother of Flyers forward Brayden Schenn. The elder Schenn, 22, has watched his minutes wane in his 4th NHL season. He’s dropped from an average of 22:22 last season to just 16:36 this season.

Schenn is in the first year of a 5-year, $18 million deal which pays him a manageable $3.6 million salary cap hit per season. He has a modified no-trade clause which does not kick in until the final year of his deal.

I like Schenn because his role with the Flyers would be three-fold. He would be the perfect No. 4 or No. 5 in an already stable defense corps for the Flyers' playoff run. He would quickly jell on a roster that already features his brother. And he is a capable replacement for Matt Carle, should the Flyers not be able to re-sign the soon-to-be unrestricted free agent.

While organization figureheads remain tight-lipped on Carle’s contract status for next season, that doesn’t mean there have not been discussions about an extension. It just seems hard to believe that Carle would be willing to agree to an extension below his market value just to stay with the team. Carle makes $3.473 million this season and his rate could increase considerably on the free market this summer.
Interesting.


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Interesting, but it would probably cost JVR

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Very interesting. we are probably scouting for defense soo schenn, phanuef, franson? dont see them letting their captain go so im leaning more towards schenn. hope we dont give up a lot for him.

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Basically burying Walker and Shelley would cover most of his cap hit as well. I'm sure it would literally take way too much to get him.

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misleading title....there's no where that says these two are working on a deal involving Luke. the article just speculates that they would make good trading partners and that he thinks Luke is being scouted.

there's no confirmation to this

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Only if a bad/decent prospect comes with him.

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Shelley and Walker for Schenn! Homer, use the force and make it happen.

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I could see the Flyers going after Schenn for a variety of reasons.

- Locked up long term, to a reasonable salary
-Physical D man that is young
-Older brother of one our most important young players


Reasons why not

-Not a great cap hit for what he does
-Toronto may want too much, hard to place a value on a guy like schenn

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Id love to have Schenn, but knowing Burke it would cost way to much

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misleading title....there's no where that says these two are working on a deal involving Luke. the article just speculates that they would make good trading partners and that he thinks Luke is being scouted.

there's no confirmation to this

That's why there is a question mark

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Only if a bad/decent prospect comes with him.
Beat me to it.

I'd do it if we didn't have to trade our Schenn or JVR (or Voracek too). I'd deal Read though (flame on).

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Leaf fan here, love the Flyers too though.

Just chiming in, interesting article except the part where it says "Luke Schenn a capable replacement for Matt Carle". No, Luke can't play on the PP or move the puck with ease like Carle.

Anyway, it would probably have to be JVR or Couturier coming the other way for Schenn + prospect/pick? I still doubt you guys want to give either of em up for Schenner'.

However, really doubt he's going anywhere. He's been solid this season and a major part of our success.

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Frank is full of ****. Guy is an idiot.

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Seravalli annoys me. It's more than just the douchey hair styling, too. Luke Schenn is a "capable replacement" for Matt Carle? Really? Does this guy even watch any teams that aren't the Flyers? What a clown.

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Frank is full of ****. Guy is an idiot.
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Seravalli annoys me. It's more than just the douchey hair styling, too. Luke Schenn is a "capable replacement" for Matt Carle? Really? Does this guy even watch any teams that aren't the Flyers? What a clown.
I'm amazed it took 12 replies for someone to finally say this. Agreed with you guys though.

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I didn't even realize who wrote it .

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haha, man i never realized who wrote it either. "capable repalcement" for Carle.....they are 2 completely different players Frank!

ok nvm, he's just slowing **** out of his ass (as usual)

I don't expect us to go after Luke simply because he would cost too much. also, he's not as good as leafs fan say he is

we have much better options out there for what we want that are better players and will cost less

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Seravalli annoys me. It's more than just the douchey hair styling, too. Luke Schenn is a "capable replacement" for Matt Carle? Really? Does this guy even watch any teams that aren't the Flyers? What a clown.

OK but either way the Flyers are clearly scouting Leafs players and it looks like a move could go down whether it be Schenn or someone else.

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Leaf fan here, love the Flyers too though.

Just chiming in, interesting article except the part where it says "Luke Schenn a capable replacement for Matt Carle". No, Luke can't play on the PP or move the puck with ease like Carle.

Anyway, it would probably have to be JVR or Couturier coming the other way for Schenn + prospect/pick? I still doubt you guys want to give either of em up for Schenner'.

However, really doubt he's going anywhere. He's been solid this season and a major part of our success.
This is what I thought.

Schenn is helpful. He's a shorter version of Braydon Coburn, which is welcome on any blueline.

As far as Matt Carle...he's not helping there.

The idea with acquiring him though would be to keep Matt Carle since Schenn is relatively cheap compared to other options out there.

Hartnell - Giroux - Read
Simmonds - B. Schenn - vanRiemsdyk
Voracek - Couturier - Briere
Rinaldo - Talbot - Sesrtito

Timonen - Coburn
Meszaros - Carle
Bourdon - L. Schenn


I'd start with 1st + Gustafsson/Wellwood and listen to Toronto's ideas for more.

I'm certainly not throwing down JVR or Voracek for Schenn. Read or Simmonds is a better possibility.

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Leafs fan here.

Burke is far from desperate to move Schenn, though I think he would for the right player. I'd speculate that either JVR or Coutourier straight up would be the price.

He certainly won't be moved for a package of lesser players/prospects/picks etc. He'd get traded straight up for a young forward of similar draft status, or more likely that he would get traded in a package towards a #1 center. I'm sure Burke's first choice is to trade him in a package towards a player like Getzlaf or Staal (should they become available)...then if that fails he might consider trading for a big, talented young forward like JVR or Coutourier.

What were you guys thinking it would take?

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Leafs fan here.

Burke is far from desperate to move Schenn, though I think he would for the right player. I'd speculate that either JVR or Coutourier straight up would be the price.

He certainly won't be moved for a package of lesser players/prospects/picks etc. He'd get traded straight up for a young forward of similar draft status, or more likely that he would get traded in a package towards a #1 center. I'm sure Burke's first choice is to trade him in a package towards a player like Getzlaf or Staal (should they become available)...then if that fails he might consider trading for a big, talented young forward like JVR or Coutourier.

What were you guys thinking it would take?
You wouldn't come close to:

Giroux, JVR, Voracek, Couturier, or B. Schenn (based on organizational opinion not necessarily current value).

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Leafs fan here.

Burke is far from desperate to move Schenn, though I think he would for the right player. I'd speculate that either JVR or Coutourier straight up would be the price.

He certainly won't be moved for a package of lesser players/prospects/picks etc. He'd get traded straight up for a young forward of similar draft status, or more likely that he would get traded in a package towards a #1 center. I'm sure Burke's first choice is to trade him in a package towards a player like Getzlaf or Staal (should they become available)...then if that fails he might consider trading for a big, talented young forward like JVR or Coutourier.

What were you guys thinking it would take?
You guys would probably have to add in order to get JVR. One thing for certain is that Couturier isn't going anywhere. For anyone (unless it's Weber or something). In my opinion, he's the second most important franchise cornerstone behind Giroux; it's obvious the organization absolutely adores Couturier, and I believe he will be a Flyer for a very long time. That Jeff Carter trade continues to look better and better with each passing day.

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Leafs fan here.

Burke is far from desperate to move Schenn, though I think he would for the right player. I'd speculate that either JVR or Coutourier straight up would be the price.

He certainly won't be moved for a package of lesser players/prospects/picks etc. He'd get traded straight up for a young forward of similar draft status, or more likely that he would get traded in a package towards a #1 center. I'm sure Burke's first choice is to trade him in a package towards a player like Getzlaf or Staal (should they become available)...then if that fails he might consider trading for a big, talented young forward like JVR or Coutourier.

What were you guys thinking it would take?
If we move JVR I'd like Suter or Weber type back. I am not big JVR fan but he is 50-70pts player. I am not sure why Schenn is making 3.6M a year. Is he that good at 22? I just do not see it and I do watch Leafs.

If it is between trading JVR for Schenn and making a move for Gleason or Kubina. I'd go with Gleason or Kubina.


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^ If his 3.6 cap hit is a bit high it's because he's locked up for 6 years and a couple of ufa eligle years were bought up. I'd say 3.6 is 2nd pairing money and seems pretty fair for Luke. He's definately not in the league of a Suter/Weber...but I think THN Draft Preview 08 had a quote from a scoute saying he was Brandan Witt +, which now seems bang on.

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I wouldn't be opposed to something like Coburn+ for Schenn just to unite the brothers.

But as far as JVR for Schenn, just no.

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