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01-16-2012, 12:41 PM
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Shouldn't the Leafs wait until they have an actual shot at the cup before they blow their wad on free agents?
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01-16-2012, 12:42 PM
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Same old jokes from the rest of the league's fans.

Is it possible? Yes it's possible. Is it likely? Not very.

Value of Rick Nash in accordance to the Leafs roster? I couldn't tell you, or, I'd rather spare you a proposal. But you're not going to get an honest assessment here.

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01-16-2012, 12:52 PM
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For a team that has only made the playoffs once in its entire existence (yes its only been since 2000), I don't think its fair to discount all-star players getting dished out.

I feel that Nashville rely's too much on Nash and that takes away from the team aspect of the game. Its more-so how do we surround Nash to succeed, rather than how to we put the best team on the ice. Now in no way am I taking away from his skills because I feel that he's the best power forward in the league.

For the Leafs to put a package together, it would have to be a lot.

I think for starters, it would be:

D Luke Schenn
D Stuart Percy
F Mikhail Grabovski (with a conditional pick if he doesn't resign)
F Brad Ross
F Colby Armstrong (cap issues)
2013 1st Round Pick

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01-16-2012, 12:57 PM
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It's possible, but you'd have to fork out big time. I would guess they'd want something like Schenn, Kadri, and another legitimate asset.

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01-16-2012, 01:05 PM
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Don't want Nash unless they take Connolly, Lombardi, or Komisarek as part of the return

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01-16-2012, 01:07 PM
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For a team that has only made the playoffs once in its entire existence (yes its only been since 2000), I don't think its fair to discount all-star players getting dished out.

I feel that Nashville rely's too much on Nash and that takes away from the team aspect of the game. Its more-so how do we surround Nash to succeed, rather than how to we put the best team on the ice. Now in no way am I taking away from his skills because I feel that he's the best power forward in the league.

For the Leafs to put a package together, it would have to be a lot.

I think for starters, it would be:

D Luke Schenn
D Stuart Percy
F Mikhail Grabovski (with a conditional pick if he doesn't resign)
F Brad Ross
F Colby Armstrong (cap issues)
2013 1st Round Pick
Does Nash intentionally score on his own net when he plays Nashville?

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01-16-2012, 01:09 PM
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Does Nash intentionally score on his own net when he plays Nashville?
My bad. Columbus

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01-16-2012, 01:12 PM
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For a team that has only made the playoffs once in its entire existence (yes its only been since 2000), I don't think its fair to discount all-star players getting dished out.

I feel that Nashville rely's too much on Nash and that takes away from the team aspect of the game. Its more-so how do we surround Nash to succeed, rather than how to we put the best team on the ice. Now in no way am I taking away from his skills because I feel that he's the best power forward in the league.

For the Leafs to put a package together, it would have to be a lot.

I think for starters, it would be:

D Luke Schenn
D Stuart Percy
F Mikhail Grabovski (with a conditional pick if he doesn't resign)
F Brad Ross
F Colby Armstrong (cap issues)
2013 1st Round Pick
usually trades aren't 6 assets for 1

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01-16-2012, 01:15 PM
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Nash isn't worth his contract and has been living off hype for too long now, he's just a 70 point player.

A guy like Suter or Parise can be signed in the offseason for similar money, and cost you no assets.

Anyway if a deal was made, they would have to take back some salary for sure.

Lombardi, MacArthur, Schenn, 1st would probably work for me. Anything else, not so much.

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01-16-2012, 01:18 PM
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Ive liked Nash since his London Knight days, but I have zero interest in him because he wouldnt be worth what he would cost us. He's also not worth his contract.

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Would Toronto be willing to give up Bozak, Komisarek, and a 4th?
Make it a 6th instead of a 4th and columbus adds a 2nd and its close

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01-16-2012, 01:20 PM
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Make it a 6th instead of a 4th and columbus adds a 2nd and its close
You drive a hard bargain

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IDK....

Kessel, Schenn, Aulie for Nash

but Nash, still doenst have a legit no.1 Center to play with him
Kessel > Nash

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Leafs certainly have the pieces to get Nash. What I don't understand (and don't take this the wrong way Leafs fans) is why some Leafs fans want Nash? Yes Nash is an awesome and talented player but the glaring need that everyone knows is center. What would be accomplished by trading your upper tier prospects (Kadri/Colborne) or young roster players (Schenn/Gardiner)?

You bump Kessel or Lupul to the 2nd line and break up the chemistry between them. And you still won't have a center to make it work between all your talented wingers. Just my 2 cents.

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I know that nash to the leafs has come up in the past but with his name coming up again in leaf rumors is columbus at the point where they actually could move him. Now save me the it will cost kessel and phaneuf posts because superstars are hardly ever traded for each other but with a 7.8 cap hit for 6 years that would come into play in a trade. I know nash serves his community well in columbus but at some point something has to give and with nash not ruling out waiving his NMC a few weeks ago how would this have to work to get nash to the leafs.
I thought I woke up to the sound of heads exploding in Columbus...

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The only thing we'd trade Nash for is a bonafide #1 defenseman, plus extras. As there is no rational reason for Toronto to give up a package like that, I'd say, no, it's not possible.

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Kessel > Nash
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and this is from a habs fan ... thanks for not hating Leafs players

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Why would the Leafs want Nash? They would have to overpay for a an overpaid player who has never lived up to expectations and isn't a team guy.

They would be better off trying to deal for Carter.

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For a team that has only made the playoffs once in its entire existence (yes its only been since 2000), I don't think its fair to discount all-star players getting dished out.

I feel that Nashville rely's too much on Nash and that takes away from the team aspect of the game. Its more-so how do we surround Nash to succeed, rather than how to we put the best team on the ice. Now in no way am I taking away from his skills because I feel that he's the best power forward in the league.

For the Leafs to put a package together, it would have to be a lot.

I think for starters, it would be:

D Luke Schenn
D Stuart Percy
F Mikhail Grabovski (with a conditional pick if he doesn't resign)
F Brad Ross
F Colby Armstrong (cap issues)
2013 1st Round Pick

You're conditional would be a 3rd, primarily due to the fact that you were unable to replace him. But Armstrong doesn't go for free. Send back Upshall and you have a deal.

Don't get me wrong, Nash is a very nice player to have, but he doesn't have his centre to play with and it's likely that we won't either.

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Leafs need Statsny, highly skilled center. Scoring wingers in abundance in Toronto.

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Would Toronto be willing to give up Bozak, Komisarek, and a 4th?
No, we will go no higher than a 5th

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Because the leafs have no valuable players in the organization...


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Hahahahahaha, nice, so true, happens all the time on here, but once they are on another team, they are wicked, and the fanbase is happy to have ect..... its so old and tiresome. nice post. I can't even talk leafs on this board, it seems it always goes that way.

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Why would the Leafs want Nash? They would have to overpay for a an overpaid player who has never lived up to expectations and isn't a team guy.

They would be better off trying to deal for Carter.
This may be the funniest post I've seen in a long time. Nash not a team guy? [MOD] Nash is the consumate professional and definitely a team guy.

You really got me with that last comment. Better off with Carter. Yeah...team guy. I would gladly move Carter for other assets.

As to the OP, I don't know that putting Nash in Toronto changes his playing dynamic. Nash is a franchise player FOR COLUMBUS (maybe a few others ???) but most of us realize he isn't on the level of generational talents like Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos among others. He has never had a Robin to his days as Batman. The collective suck of Columbus has weighed down his potential and, to me, Nash isn't a player that can individually make others players better by himself.

He is a great player - many of you don't want to believe that and that's OK - but I don't think moving him to TO makes him any better or makes Toronto better. The assets that Columbus would ask in return make him moving a highly unlikely scenario.


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Imo IF Nash decides to waive his NTC it will be to go to a contender & play with a legit #1 center. Toronto while making huge strides to relevancy just doesnt fit the bill yet. I could see Washington, Philly, NYR, Vancouver, as teams who'd make a serious bid for Nash, & Nash perhaps waiving for such teams. Can you imagine Rick Nash playing alongside the Sedins??

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Would never fit under the cap

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Why would the Leafs want Nash? They would have to overpay for a an overpaid player who has never lived up to expectations and isn't a team guy.

They would be better off trying to deal for Carter.
I agree with your thoughts about Nash but I'd pass on Carter too. If Toronto was trading for a BJ, I'd like Umberger instead. According to rumour monger OP, Toronto is inquiring about every team's stars though.

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