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01-16-2012, 11:17 PM
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A broken nose does not keep a player out for close to two months. A concussion does. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12016/1203922-100.stm
I'm well aware that he suffered a concussion. I never said he didn't. My point was that IN THAT GAME it appeared the severity of the injury was just a broken nose. Pittsburgh could not tell from that hit that it was nearly that severe, hence the reason he played.

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01-16-2012, 11:23 PM
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It's his decision to visit the witch doctor. I don't agree with it, but my hope is that it's just exploiting the placebo effect.
Yeah, I mean he has every right to visit the guy if he wants but no matter which way you cut it, it's not a good sign.

From what I can gather he is visiting a guy that is basically telling him by "adjusting" his spine (which is very dangerous in and of itself) and engaging in balance exercises he can treat, even cure, mild to severe post concussion syndromes. This guy is taken advantage of someone in a desperate situation and in turn it will lead to more people in similar situations seeking this guy out and to me that is flat out dangerous especially with something as serious as post-concussion syndrome.

I don't know, it seems like this is mostly Crosby thats deciding to see him, but I would hope that he's getting actual medical treatment and evaluations. Having a quack diagnose and treat you in lieu of actual medicine can be more dangerous then the actual condition.

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01-16-2012, 11:27 PM
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I'm not sure why I came in here expecting new, news. All Crosby news articles are just reposts.

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01-16-2012, 11:31 PM
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I'm not sure why I came in here expecting new, news. All Crosby news articles are just reposts.
Honestly I just bumped it because I was shocked that more people in the main forum overlooked the part that he returned to see a quack doctor for treatment of post concussion syndrome. Of course it seems a lot of Pittsburgh fans share my concern of Crosby seeing this guy for treatment.

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01-16-2012, 11:45 PM
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Well looks like he will have to stick to doing Sport Check and those heart warming Tim Hortons commercials for the rest of his career.

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01-16-2012, 11:46 PM
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Honestly I just bumped it because I was shocked that more people in the main forum overlooked the part that he returned to see a quack doctor for treatment of post concussion syndrome. Of course it seems a lot of Pittsburgh fans share my concern of Crosby seeing this guy for treatment.
I've never been to one myself but I know a lot of people swear by chiropractors. To each his own in my opinion, unless someone gets hurt.

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01-17-2012, 05:09 AM
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I've never been to one myself but I know a lot of people swear by chiropractors. To each his own in my opinion, unless someone gets hurt.
Usually those people are the types that are dealing with back and neck problems and a visit to a chiropractor can help alleviate tension and mild pain in those areas. However coincidentally so can a good massage (without the risk of having someone snap a part of your spinal cord).

Where it crosses into the realm of absurdity is when a chiropractor tells you by realigning your spine they can treat kidney disease, diabetes, acid reflux, heart disease, epilepsy, and in the case of Sidney Crosby post concussion syndrome.

This video does a pretty good job of explaining how much of a scam chiropractic medicine is.


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01-17-2012, 05:27 AM
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I've never been to one myself but I know a lot of people swear by chiropractors. To each his own in my opinion, unless someone gets hurt.
I've gone to one to prevent my spinal curvature from getting worse. The initial chiropractor I had only charged $7/session student rate, even though I wasn't one

But lately it's too expensive, particularly since the new one came in. They want you in a least once a month . $40/time. He only works 16 hours, so I'm working when they're open. Debating whether to get a new one or hope for the best. I do think a lot of chiropractic is ridiculous(Especially for children), but I understand why some of it works. I'm also leery of medical doctors....a lot of them are all about "Well, we'll prescribe this, let me know how this turns out" Some of them get kickbacks from pharmaceudical companies.

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01-17-2012, 05:30 AM
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All the best to him. I really hope he comes around so he can get rid of this.

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01-17-2012, 05:39 AM
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I dunno, some of the chiropractors get something done too.My brother had dislocated calcaneus (or something like that) , he went to a chiropractor and the thing was gone.But that they treat concussions?, its a bit weird.Well as long as it helps.

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I dunno, some of the chiropractors get something done too.
Indeed. In any discussion about chiropractors, a distinction needs to be made between those that have a quality university level education AND practice evidenced-based medicine, and those that do not. There is solid scientific evidence regarding chiropractic techniques in conjunction (this is important) with physiotherapy techniques in regard to back and joint issues. There is no, or sometimes negative, evidence with regard to chiropracters treating issues like asthma or a variety of other diseases as is sometimes claimed by those chiropracters that do not practice evidenced based medicine.

I'm not sure where chiropractic neurology in the vein that Dr. Carrick practices it lies. Even though I have a significant background in neuroscience, I haven't been able to find anyone or anything (in terms of reasearch) that has been able to explain the neurological basis for it, which makes me a bit wary. But stranger techniques have been shown to work. As many have said, I imagine the Penguins have provided him with a veritable army of specialists.

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01-17-2012, 06:55 AM
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Honestly I just bumped it because I was shocked that more people in the main forum overlooked the part that he returned to see a quack doctor for treatment of post concussion syndrome. Of course it seems a lot of Pittsburgh fans share my concern of Crosby seeing this guy for treatment.
I was going to post something similar, but it appears using chiropractors is not that uncommon in the NHL (just try googling nhl and chiropractor (-crosby ). And posting something about it being alternative medicine will always get people riled up and the thread would soon be filled with off-topic posts, like this one.

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01-17-2012, 09:05 AM
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I'm sorry to say, but the fact that Crosby has gone to a Chiropractor for a concussion shows that his career is almost certainly over. My experience is that Chiropractors claim they can cure just about anything, 99% of which is complete BS.

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01-17-2012, 11:19 AM
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This does not look good at all. My guess is he will be out for the rest of the season. If he's smart he'll take the playoffs off as well. If he comes back, you have to think one more blow to the head and its career over. Sad to see this happen as the NHL is better with him in it.

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01-17-2012, 11:39 AM
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Breaking news: Crosby still injured.

In the past year, does Crosby have the highest headlines per games played ratio of any athlete in history?

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01-17-2012, 12:07 PM
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You should email him. I highly doubt the group of people around him has thought of this
It would be funny if one of the medical staff surfed on this board and got the idea from here.

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01-17-2012, 12:13 PM
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Crosby is seriously done. He's had concussion issues since 12 and it took him only 8 games to be out for the season now (100%), again. My prediction is between now and 2014 Olympics is he will play between 15-30 games max.

He's not my favourite player but would like to see him play cause I'll admit it's better having him in than not, but he's in trouble. Big trouble. He will retire at some point.

He going to realise it's not worth having headaches and dizzness daily for the rest of his life. No amount of money is worth that (Seriously offer me a check for $10 million and it will last everyday forever? Never). He enjoyed great success in a short amount of time, but ending at 25/26 is pretty terrible.


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01-17-2012, 12:27 PM
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I like how people are taking this news as it's another sign "he's done."

He was planning on seeing Dr. Carrick before he skated with the team, but he was out of the country until the other day. This changes nothing about where his recovery is, and certainly isn't any sign of a setback.

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01-17-2012, 12:28 PM
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He will retire at some point.
Astute observation, so will the rest of the NHL.

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01-17-2012, 12:37 PM
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Astute observation, so will the rest of the NHL.
Crosby has had severe concussions since 12 years old. And is currently struggling big time in practice skate, and knocked out 8 games (2 Weeks) after almost 1 full year of recovery, "Out Indefinitely". Not normal anyway you slice it. Just some facts.


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it took him only 8 games to be out for the season now (100%), again.
It is not 100% sure that he is done for the season by any means, if thats what you are implying

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No offense to any chiros on here, but there is very little science behind what chiropractors do. Surprised this is where Crosby is going for help, TBH.

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I wasted a third round pick on this clown!

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The nuerologist he's meeting is the one than said he'd be back around Christmas at best, obviously that proved to be incorrect but he then had a set-back and you know the rest.

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The nuerologist he's meeting is the one than said he'd be back around Christmas at best, obviously that proved to be incorrect but he then had a set-back and you know the rest.
Um, Carrick never said that (back by Christmas time at best).

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