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01-16-2012, 03:50 PM
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Nash/Ryan/Vanek/Doan to LA

Consolidating pipedream options for LA to get a a legit scoring Winger.

Just looking for honest discussion about possibilities.

I highly doubt any such deals will go down but as LA has always been in need, what would it take?

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The Ducks will never, ever, trade one of the big 3 to LA, so you can cross Ryan off your list.

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Brown + (except for Doan)

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The Ducks will never, ever, trade one of the big 3 to LA, so you can cross Ryan off your list.
thanks for furthering the conversation. as i said however unlikely, what would it honestly take? doughty?

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thanks for furthering the conversation. as i said however unlikely, what would it honestly take. doughty?
Why would we want that overpayed fatty? Richards

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thanks for furthering the conversation. as i said however unlikely, what would it honestly take? doughty?
It seemed like you wanted actual possible scenarios. Not being a dick but since there's no chance of it happening, figured we would just get it out there.

If you want to play fantasy what ifs, it would be Richards that Ducks would target. A deal around those two.

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Why would we want that overpayed fatty? Richards

Could something be done around Bernier + Voynov + 1st?

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Could something be done around Bernier + Voynov + 1st?
Richards. Nothing else.

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Or Kopitar

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It seemed like you wanted actual possible scenarios. Not being a dick but since there's no chance of it happening, figured we would just get it out there.

If you want to play fantasy what ifs, it would be Richards that Ducks would target. A deal around those two.
I understand it is highly unlikely, stranger things do happen. If it was mutually beneficial I could see a deal go down. Now would it be harder to complete based on SoCal rivalries/divisional hinderance or just that the needs don't match up?

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I understand it is highly unlikely, stranger things do happen. If it was mutually beneficial I could see a deal go down. Now would it be harder to complete based on socal rivalries or just that the needs don't match up?
Both. If you want Ryan we want Richards or Kopitar. Simple as that.

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Or Kopitar
Can't say I watch the Ducks aside from highlights, and hearing about the Getzlaf rumours, is center your number one need? IF Ryan was dealt, would Getz get moved too?

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Can't say I watch the Ducks aside from highlights, and hearing about the Getzlaf rumours, is center your number one need? IF Ryan was dealt, would Getz get moved too?
Nope we need a #2 who is defensively responsible. In other words Richards.

Our biggest needs are @2 center and #1 defender.

Like Suter and Richards.

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This thread is not going to end nicely. Look the Kings aren't going to trade roster players for a white knight to come in and score goals. And because of this all of those pipe dreams aren't happening.

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Nope we need a #2 who is defensively responsible. In other words Richards.

Our biggest needs are @2 center and #1 defender.

Like Suter and Richards.
Obviously LA isn't going to trade their 1B center they have needed so long for Ryan.

Unless the Ducks were looking for JJ or Doughty, yeah, there is not much to talk about. LA has enough prospects coming up to part with a first line defender for a guy like Ryan.

Why would the Ducks even consider trading Ryan at all?

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This thread is not going to end nicely. Look the Kings aren't going to trade roster players for a white knight to come in and score goals. And because of this all of those pipe dreams aren't happening.
I'm not sure the Kings will win built as they are Reap.

If a scoring forward is out there, I think you do what it takes to bring him in. Unless u are banking on Parise to come as a UFA and that has worked well in the past.

Bernier is a stud but Quick is our number 1. Trade for a back up or bring up Jones/Zatkoff to fill in for Quick.

Martinez/Voynov are solid players. Deslauries and Hickey are capable NHL products as well.

Options are available, I'm trying to think outside the box a little.

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Why would we want that overpayed fatty? Richards
Yeah, why would the Ducks want defense? Because it seems they have enough of it already.

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Vanek isn't part of the problem in Buffalo, so I doubt trading him will be part of the solution

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I'm not sure the Kings will win built as they are Reap.

If a scoring forward is out there, I think you do what it takes to bring him in. Unless u are banking on Parise to come as a UFA and that has worked well in the past.

Bernier is a stud but Quick is our number 1. Trade for a back up or bring up Jones/Zatkoff to fill in for Quick.

Martinez/Voynov are solid players. Deslauries and Hickey are capable NHL products as well.

Options are available, I'm trying to think outside the box a little.
Wasn't really for you, it was for others who come in and expect the Kings to deal away Brown or Richards for another player, that just isn't happening. Prospects yes, and if that isn't going to do it, then the Kings are going with what they have. It's just the L.A. way.

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With regards to one of the requested players who isn't in Anaheim...

The Jackets' only interest in trading one of Nash or Carter would be to get a bona-fide #1D back. Preferably one of the make-allstar-forwards-have-a-bad-day-at-the-office variety. While LA could theoretically meet that price, since their top blueliners are either of the offensive variety or of the "don't even think about asking" variety (Doughty), the price would likely end up crippling the Kings' blueline depth, and so is probably not worth it.

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Wasn't really for you, it was for others who come in and expect the Kings to deal away Brown or Richards for another player, that just isn't happening. Prospects yes, and if that isn't going to do it, then the Kings are going with what they have. It's just the L.A. way.
We didnt start the thread

Ya JJ or DD would work great for you guys except it doesnt work for us.

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For Vanek, we want Kopitar or Richards coming back.

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For Vanek, we want Kopitar or Richards coming back.
I understand why you feel this way, but I think the best the Kings could do would be Brown + ???? and even then I'm not sure.

I don't think there is a deal to be had for a top scoring winger right now. The Kings could do something to add depth though and I would suggest packaging one of our young defensemen (Martinez, Hickey, Muzzin, etc.) with a high pick should be what Lombardi should be trying to do to land a talented young winger from another organization that may be somewhat blocked by the talent ahead of him in his current organization.

I don't think the names Ryan, Nash, Vanek, or Doan are thinking outside the box. The Kings need to identify what they believe is a young diamond in the rough and make a fair offer to a team whose prospect pool is shallow on the back end.

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LA's 1st in 2012 plus Dustin Brown and a top defenseman prospect like Slava Voynov or Derek Forbot.

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I understand why you feel this way, but I think the best the Kings could do would be Brown + ???? and even then I'm not sure.
If that's the best they can do, they won't be getting Vanek. Vanek is actually one of the few pieces on the team I would be upset about losing. He isn't part of the problem and should only be moved for a clear upgrade.

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