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Pittsburgh Seeking Winger Via Trade?

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01-17-2012, 01:32 AM
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Brad Boyes or Drew Stafford

Take these wingers please

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01-17-2012, 02:14 AM
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Brad Boyes or Drew Stafford

Take these wingers please
The hell happened with Boyes? Guy is 29 (arguably in the prime of a players career) and he's regressed badly the last few seasons. Couldn't have been injuries as he's barely had any. Lack of heart?

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01-17-2012, 02:29 AM
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Hemsky probably, either that or Clowe

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01-17-2012, 02:35 AM
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Raymond for Niskanen seems pretty close in value and meet the needs for both teams. I can definitely see something like Raymond for Niskanen + mid/late pick. However, I would want to see Raymond traded as a package along with some other roster player and pick to bring someone who is more defensively sound than Niskanen.
I would definitely look at this trade in the offseason for sure.
If you move Raymond for Niskanen you have your top 4 set, and so you can go after guys via free agency/in the system already to fill the bottom 2 spots.

You can then use Schneider to bring in a young top 9 winger with good upside (ala Downie or someone like that).

I think value is close with the 2, but a bit of an edge to Raymond (mid round pick/bottom 6 player worth)

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01-17-2012, 03:22 AM
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We can't deal Niskanen before Letang is back and looking like he is OK.

Raymond is sort of intriguing for those remembering his 09/10 season, that player would be great on the Pens, but with injury problems and current production.... it seems a bit of a gamble.
I think I'd rather go for more of a sure thing if it is a deadline deal, probably an UFA where you'd get more impact short term.

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01-17-2012, 03:41 AM
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We can't deal Niskanen before Letang is back and looking like he is OK.

Raymond is sort of intriguing for those remembering his 09/10 season, that player would be great on the Pens, but with injury problems and current production.... it seems a bit of a gamble.
I think I'd rather go for more of a sure thing if it is a deadline deal, probably an UFA where you'd get more impact short term.
Yeah I see this as more of an offseason move. His production slipped a bit when Kesler decided to stop passing to him...but he plays excellent 2 ways, is a great forechecker and a solid finish.

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01-17-2012, 03:57 AM
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The Penguins have 200k cap space. How are they going to get a top6 winger, who are usually worth of +3 million?

Crosby to LTIR?

Then it's no Crosby, but they'll get the winger. Both can't be there.

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01-17-2012, 04:17 AM
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Parenteau to the Penguins does make some sense. The Isles are a lottery team and it would make sense to unload PA when his value is at it's highest. He's a pending UFA and he's cheap - 1.25M. He's not a sexy name, but he can help Pitt. He could fetch a 2nd rounder which is reasonable.
This very well sums up the situation. He's a very good candidate for the pens and the price is reasonable for the islanders.

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01-17-2012, 08:37 AM
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Niskanen for Raymond is the most intriguing, but Pa for ? is probably the most cost effective.

Depending on circumstances I'd do the first, and I'd do the second easily.

Shero is a master at getting the biggest bang for his parts, so Niskanen for Raymond would probably not happen unless he squeaked a bit more out of it. He clearly isn't in the must have and he'll make anything into a hockey trade not a reactionary move.

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01-17-2012, 09:11 AM
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Let's wait for Selanne.

I mean, if Pens keep Crosby on LTIR until playoffs and save that cap space for Selanne. That would be my dream coming true, if the price won't be too expensive to get Selanne (Not hoping that situation for Crosby though, even it seems more and more likely at this point).

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Kunitz - Crosby - Selanne
Neal - Malkin - Kennedy
Sullivan - Staal - Dupuis
Cooke - Vitale - Adams
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Orpik - Letang
Martin - Michalek
Niskanen - Engelland
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While I think the value is close in Nisky for Raymond, as a pens fan I would decline. Not a Raymond fan and dont want to see Lovejoy getting any ice time once Letang gets back.

As some have posted, it would make more sense in the off-season, but IMO Raymond doesnt have the hockey IQ to keep up with Malkin or Crosby and is way too fast for Staal

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01-17-2012, 09:16 AM
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Pitt interested in Morrow?

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Pitt interested in Morrow?
Definitely. I know he isnt having a great season by his standards. What would the Stars need in return?

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01-17-2012, 09:27 AM
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Definitely. I know he isnt having a great season by his standards. What would the Stars need in return?
At the very least a 1st round pick, upper tier prospect and a roster player.

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At the very least a 1st round pick, upper tier prospect and a roster player.
Would Dallas be looking for D or Forward prospects?

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01-17-2012, 09:35 AM
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Would Dallas be looking for D or Forward prospects?
Probably forward IMO especially with the lack of development Glennie is showing.

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According to ESPN the Penguins are seeking a trade for a winger. It's said that P.A. Parenteau is a possibility.

Parenteau is having a career year and a UFA. Could Pittsburgh be looking for some long-term help, assuming Crosby may be out for awhile?
I sincerely believe Kostitsyn will be moved even though I think this would be a HUGE mistake being a habs fan…He would fit in extremely well in Pittsburgh.

I can see Kostitsyn + Moen to Pittsburgh for Tangradi and a 2nd

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This could lean towards the Hemsky speculation coming true.

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01-17-2012, 12:52 PM
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The Penguins have 200k cap space. How are they going to get a top6 winger, who are usually worth of +3 million?

Crosby to LTIR?

Then it's no Crosby, but they'll get the winger. Both can't be there.
There's more than enough cap space. All the money Sid earned while on Long Term IR (which was for the first 2 months) goes back to the Pens in cap space. They've also had other injuries that went on LTIR which give them additional cap space. According to capgeek they have 4.7m in cap space, and that number is only going up each day. By the deadline they could likely fit damn near anyone under their cap without moving a roster player.

As for Morrow, unless Martin is headed the other way I would pass. He'd be great, but his cap hit next year is 4.1. We still have to sign Neal and hopefully Niskanen, and do not have a lot of money coming off the books.

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There's more than enough cap space. All the money Sid earned while on Long Term IR (which was for the first 2 months) goes back to the Pens in cap space. They've also had other injuries that went on LTIR which give them additional cap space. According to capgeek they have 4.7m in cap space, and that number is only going up each day. By the deadline they could likely fit damn near anyone under their cap without moving a roster player.
No, no it does not. This is a very common misconception, but LTIR time does not get banked. The Penguins are able to go over the cap by $8.7 million for as long as Crosby is on the LTIR...but as soon as he comes back that cap space need to be cleared.

Now if Crosby is to be on the LTIR for the remainder of the year then the cap ceases to be a problem in the short-term, we were only able to acquire Neal and Niskanen last year because of Malkin being out for the remainder of the regular a season...but Shero has said that he expects Crosby to play again this year, so I wouldn't bet on that. Then again Shero has also said that basically every top prospect in the system, aside from Tangradi, is untouchable...I'm really not seeing the Penguins as buyers for a rental this year and if they do make a deal then it's going to have to involve a $1 for $1 swap.

The Penguins went into the season with a comfortable pillow of cap space that could have led to an easier deadline deal, but all of the injuries have destroyed that cushion.

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At the very least a 1st round pick, upper tier prospect and a roster player.
Tyler Kennedy + Brian Strait + 2012 1st rounder?

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I dont see the penguins giving up their 1st when they are hosting thedraft. 2nd, sure...or send them Sullivan too in lieu of a pick.

But who just went on the ir? Was it ribs or morrow?

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I dont see the penguins giving up their 1st when they are hosting thedraft. 2nd, sure...or send them Sullivan too in lieu of a pick.

But who just went on the ir? Was it ribs or morrow?
Ribeiro went on the IR and will be back after the ASG.

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Pass on PAP. He's a great example of a bad player putting up decent production on a bad team.

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I think/hope Vancouver will be looking for a bigger impact D man than Niskanen.

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