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'11/'12: Leafs Trade Rumours/Proposals: Burke Failed Us...No trade still :(

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Also to MM, I don't know man there were times when I saw carter and he made me grind my teeth.

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In reference to the title.

2 years ago Phaneuf was traded to us on January 31st.

Last year Lupul/Gardiner were traded to us on February 9th.

Also last year, Kaberle was moved February 18th.

Still plenty of time.

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So the 72 hour window is almost over with. Think anything will happen or do you expect a tweet saying the deal has gone cold?

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Also to MM, I don't know man there were times when I saw carter and he made me grind my teeth.
Definitely, but that happens with your best players. He's certainly no staple of consistency.

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So the 72 hour window is almost over with. Think anything will happen or do you expect a tweet saying the deal has gone cold?
72 hour window for what?

I've missed a lot lately.

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In reference to the title.

2 years ago Phaneuf was traded to us on January 31st.

Last year Lupul/Gardiner were traded to us on February 9th.

Also last year, Kaberle was moved February 18th.

Still plenty of time.
I know...but I'm just making fun buddy. I said this the first thing in the morning so I thought I should make it into the title as everyone has been in a panic state.

I personally think the trade will be after the Islanders back to back game.

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I think the price is right to obtain Carter right now. Its well speculated that he doesn't like playing in Columbus, so why do them any favours and take that contract. I'd low ball them and see what comes out of it.

If Carter can come in here and put up numbers, then it will be easier to forget that Grabovski won't be on the team next year.
Where did you hear about Carter's dissatisfaction ?

I really don't think that Grabovski's absence will be an easy one to fill because he is a guy who gives it his all from shift 1 to shift 99. He's a guy like Kulemin, who even if not scoring, will lay out big hits and play very well defensively.

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I doubt Burke would be too concerned with Carter's contract, the length will be the next GM's problem and cap hit going forward will be similar to Grabovski's(if he were to re-sign as UFA).

Carter wouldn't have to play with Kessel, he could replace Grabovski.

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72 hour window for what?

I've missed a lot lately.
Ib and hbreak have been going on about a deal within 72/48 hours awaiting a medical evaluation. I personally think it's BS.

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72 hour window for what?

I've missed a lot lately.
IBN or the guy name The_creasy twitter dude has said in 72 hours or by thursday a trade should be announced

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As I said before, Burke's MO seems to be to take a bad contract and a top prospect.

Based on that, it seems logical to think he'll target players like Carter, Malone, Lecavalier, or maybe Doan.

I know lots of people (myself included) are scared of some of those contracts, but if you're getting a good player and also adding a top prospect without giving up the farm it makes sense.

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I doubt Burke would be too concerned with Carter's contract, the length will be the next GM's problem and cap hit going forward will be similar to Grabovski's(if he were to re-sign as UFA).

Carter wouldn't have to play with Kessel, he could replace Grabovski.
Given Burke's attitude on most things, I find it highly unlikely he envisions a time when hes not in control of this team.

EDIT - Onto Carter, his cap hit is manageable for about the next 5 years. Its the last 5 that might prove to be a problem if his play drops. If Burke senses Grabo wants too much, he might pull the trigger as they would play similar roles on this team.

As to CBJ, it will be a hard trade to make without making themselves look even more foolish. You can't give him away, but you have to recoup something of value considering what they gave up for him.

The complete irony of the situation is Couturier is EXACTLY the type of player they needed to play with Nash. On that note, perhaps they'd rather take a chance on Colborne instead of Naz?

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IBN is trying to be all cryptic about the Leafs going 'hard' after Carter:

Incarcerated Bob @***************

Once upon a time i broke the Rumors (In June) that Carter was on the block... I was blasted by "INSIDERS" #NoWayFlyersMoveCarter

I remember people kept writing on HF "Flyers Will Never Trade Carter IBN is full of ****" (Also i remember saying Burke had huge interest)

#LeafsNation Just let the "Proposed" trade go through (Medical reports are obviously key) evrything must be ok with the player(s)what's holding up the deal.

#LEAFNATION "PROPOSED" deal has not gone COLD -- As i said y-day medical reports are being reviewed #The2Morons Are covering there ass

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Ib and hbreak have been going on about a deal within 72/48 hours awaiting a medical evaluation. I personally think it's BS.
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IBN or the guy name The_creasy twitter dude has said in 72 hours or by thursday a trade should be announced
Oh ok, thanks guys.

Personally don't believe a single thing that comes from IB regarding hockey.

It's game day, would we make a trade today? I doubt it.

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Pretty sure the next Leafs trade will come out of no where. I am hesitant to think Burke would trade Schenn or a top 6 player. My guess is, he'll go after a cheaper bottom 6 player, who is a PK specialist first.

The the timing is right, sometime between now and mid February is when he'll show his hand.
We've been acquiring PK specialists every year to no avail. At what stage do you start to wonder that personel on the ice may not be the issue? This would seem like making a change for the sake of making a change. Unless that specialist is a fiesty hard hitting forward who can excell in 3rd line duties, I think I'll pass.

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Oh ok, thanks guys.

Personally don't believe a single thing that comes from IB regarding hockey.

It's game day, would we make a trade today? I doubt it.
Well if a medical evaluation is the only thing delaying the trade, then it's possible. But I as well doubt it.

Although, it does make sense with Jeff Carter being rumored and the fact that he has a shoulder injury.

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Given Burke's attitude on most things, I find it highly unlikely he envisions a time when hes not in control of this team.

EDIT - Onto Carter, his cap hit is manageable for about the next 5 years. Its the last 5 that might prove to be a problem if his play drops. If Burke senses Grabo wants too much, he might pull the trigger as they would play similar roles on this team.

As to CBJ, it will be a hard trade to make without making themselves look even more foolish. You can't give him away, but you have to recoup something of value considering what they gave up for him.

The complete irony of the situation is Couturier is EXACTLY the type of player they needed to play with Nash. On that note, perhaps they'd rather take a chance on Colborne instead of Naz?
Agreed. Burke wouldn't be thinking that, more my own disjointed thought made it seem that way.

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Well if a medical evaluation is the only thing delaying the trade, then it's possible. But I as well doubt it.

What sort of medical evaluation is needed?

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Well if a medical evaluation is the only thing delaying the trade, then it's possible. But I as well doubt it.
You'd think that if it was this close, one of the more reputable guys like McKenzie or Dreger would know.

I mean, what's the likelihood of IB being more in the know if a deal was all but done than Dreger, who we know has connections in the organization?

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Well if a medical evaluation is the only thing delaying the trade, then it's possible. But I as well doubt it.

Although, it does make sense with Jeff Carter being rumored and the fact that he has a shoulder injury.
What if it was a stool sample delaying the trade?

IB have proven time and time again that he isn't reliable when it comes to the NHL.

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Leaf have Players injured as well. Could be this Twitters fantasy has Armstrong going somewhere?

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You'd think that if it was this close, one of the more reputable guys like McKenzie or Dreger would know.

I mean, what's the likelihood of IB being more in the know if a deal was all but done than Dreger, who we know has connections in the organization?
I agree, but the speculation is something to have fun with lol. You really never know until it happens.

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With all the talk about Malone I'm not sure Burke would do that.

We need a player badly who brings the type of game he does.

But at 32 years old Burke has never added a player that old to the team (except Giguere) and usually prefers guys in their early to mid 20's.

Also his contract is a little scary for a guy who might be on the down swing.

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You'd think that if it was this close, one of the more reputable guys like McKenzie or Dreger would know.

I mean, what's the likelihood of IB being more in the know if a deal was all but done than Dreger, who we know has connections in the organization?
Dreger, the same 'insider' that said that Kaberle wouldn't go for more than a 2nd round pick days before he was traded for a really nice package?

He's got some connections, of course, but he's not 'god' by any means. There's a lot of rumors or trades none of the insiders are able to sniff out before it happens. Heck even some lower level insiders are able to get before.

I'm not defending IBN at all, I think he's a ******, but Dreger has lost a lot of credibility over the years.

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The thing with Carter's medical condition is that its listed as "week to week". For that reason I find it unlikely Burke is going after him. Hes not going to expend assets helping the team now for a guy who may not be ready to play until after the trade deadline.

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