Grigorenko would likely go ahead of Galy if the Russian/Attitude/Laziness wasn't a factor with him. Grigs likely would have challenged Yak for the top spot, so not sure you're really correct with the "more skill" assessment.
You're right in that I would take Galy 10 times out of 10 over Grigs, but like I said thats factoring in the other stuff.
Galchenyuk is do better than Grigorenko, but he has also been given more of an oppurtunity than Grigorenko to succeed. His team is doing better, and the Sabres are playing absolutely terrible.
Galchenyuk is doing well so far, but let's wait a couple years before calling you a scout
Galchenyuk is do better than Grigorenko, but he has also been given more of an oppurtunity than Grigorenko to succeed. His team is doing better, and the Sabres are playing absolutely terrible.
Galchenyuk is doing well so far, but let's wait a couple years before calling you a scout
I don't know, everything pretty much equals out.
Grigorenko has played with worse linemates but is being protected more than Galchenyuk.
Galchenyuk is producing because he has the compete level to play in the NHL right now.
Grigorenko is a step behind mentally and physically right now and I'm still baffled as to why he was kept.
Mikhail grigorenko: height: 74’’ gp :36 g :25 a :33 pts 58 age :35
alex galchenyuk: height: 73’’ gp :68 g :31 a :52pts 83 age :17
looking past stats, grigorenko reminds me of someone who hit the development curve quicker than others (therefore is portrayed better than he is) kind of like benoit pouliot. In comparison alex galchenyuk reminds me of a smoother skater with more upside kind of like matt duchene. Ovbviously this is pure speculation, however i just wanted to know why there was such a consensus on grigorenko
It's over and decided. Galchenyuk better than Grigorenko.
After, what... 8 games. Seems enough. Good job, scouts.
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Yeah, an 18 year old making an NHL roster is not special. Someone hire this man.
Yeesh, completely missing the point and making lazy and tired jabs at someone just because they actually got something right, at a time when such thinking was inconceivable to some. You must be fun at parties.
I don't know, everything pretty much equals out.
Grigorenko has played with worse linemates but is being protected more than Galchenyuk.
Galchenyuk is producing because he has the compete level to play in the NHL right now.
Grigorenko is a step behind mentally and physically right now and I'm still baffled as to why he was kept.
Oh I have no complaints with anyone saying that Galchenyuk has been playing better. And I am iffy about whether Grigorenko should have stayed up. But I was refering to 10 years from now. Both have to develop even more, and to pick one over the other is something we should wait on.
Yeesh, completely missing the point and making lazy and tired jabs at someone just because they actually got something right, at a time when such thinking was inconceivable to some. You must be fun at parties.
This. Coming from a big Gally fan. 8 games is absolutely NOT enough to say the right decision was made. Right now it LOOKS that way but who knows how the next 5 years plays out?
This. Coming from a big Gally fan. 8 games is absolutely NOT enough to say the right decision was made. Right now it LOOKS that way but who knows how the next 5 years plays out?
Nobody is saying that, you're making assumptions based on things that simply aren't there. I see a poster (Vinny Bombatz) who dug up a thread because he suggested Galchenyuk should be picked higher than Grigorenko, at a time when it wasn't commonly accepted to think so. Galchenyuk did go higher than Grigo, giving the poster legitimate cause to celebrate, somewhat facetiously, that he made the right call. I don't see him making any claims that Galchenyuk is now proven to be a better player than Grigorenko now and until the end of time.
Also, DuckJet, I would especially advise against you going back to page 2 in this thread.
Nobody is saying that, you're making assumptions based on things that simply aren't there. I see a poster (Vinny Bombatz) who dug up a thread because he suggested Galchenyuk should be picked higher than Grigorenko, at a time when it wasn't commonly accepted to think so. Galchenyuk did go higher than Grigo, giving the poster legitimate cause to celebrate, somewhat facetiously, that he made the right call. I don't see him making any claims that Galchenyuk is now proven to be a better player than Grigorenko now and until the end of time.
Also, DuckJet, I would especially advise against you going back to page 2 in this thread.
Had a feeling that would come up. Just let it be known that the end result of last year's draft was a outlook changing one. Also, both players changed my mind rather quickly following that post. And what assumptions are being made? This language used in this thread is one that indicates that the right choice was made already by Montreal. I personally believe that to be true, but it's no fact. Maybe I'm just reading this thread wrong. I made my point, don't think there's much else to debate. Love Gally, think he has the better career ahead of him, but can't say for sure.
Did your crystal ball have Grigorenko playing with Jochen Hecht and John Scott?
how are you people not seeing that Galchenyuk plays with the golden jet Branden Prust and a player that nobody in the world including himself and family would have thought would be in the NHL right now, Brendan Gallagher....
saying who Grigorenko has as linemates is silly when looking at who Galchenyuk plays with. they both play with lesser talent.
how are you people not seeing that Galchenyuk plays with the golden jet Branden Prust and a player that nobody in the world including himself and family would have thought would be in the NHL right now, Brendan Gallagher....
saying who Grigorenko has as linemates is silly when looking at who Galchenyuk plays with. they both play with lesser talent.
Hasen't Gallagher been lights out? and has alot of offensive skill?
Hasen't Gallagher been lights out? and has alot of offensive skill?
what round was he just selected in?
sometimes lightning strikes like the Hawks with Andrew Shaw, but there is a reason why he didnt get selected until the 5th round...size issues of course, but nobody thought he would be in the NHL right now and thats my point...
sometimes lightning strikes like the Hawks with Andrew Shaw, but there is a reason why he didnt get selected until the 5th round...size issues of course, but nobody thought he would be in the NHL right now and thats my point...
Since the draft all he has done is improve his stock, no one is suprised he made the Habs this year if you have been following him since he was selected.
