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01-17-2012, 09:23 AM
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DET - WAS, PHX, WPG, CBJ, BUF and NYI

A few trades to find a 4th line center for Detroit. Emmerton is included in these because that is his current role and I would like to see the Wings go after a more consistent centerman for the playoffs. Emmerton was a 2nd round pick and has shown he can play a fourth line role and has upside but is still learning.

WAS
Halpern

DET
Emmerton + 4th

The reason for the 4th is Halpern is 35 and a UFA next year.

PHX
Gordon

DET
Emmerton + 3rd

The reason for the 3rd is Gordon is still young and has a year left on his contract.

WPG
Slater

DET
Emmerton + 4th

The reason for the fourth is Slater is still young but he is a UFA next year.

CBJ
Palhsson

DET
Emmerton + 4th

The reason for the 4th is Palhsson is 34 and a UFA next year.

BUF
Gaustad

DET
Emmerton + 3rd

The reason for the 3rd is Gaustad is still young but he brings a lot of size as well. He is a UFA next year.

NYI
Nielsen

DET
Emmerton + 2nd

I think with his age and the fact that he can put up 40 points a second round pick. Nielsen wouldn't necessarily be a 4th liner but he would add a lot of center depth. The reason I put a 2nd is he’s a UFA next year.

Would any of these deals be close or would the draft picks need to be changed. Again the reason I have Emmerton in every deal is each team is losing a center so the Wings are giving one back.

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01-17-2012, 09:30 AM
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A few trades to find a 4th line center for Detroit. Emmerton is included in these because that is his current role and I would like to see the Wings go after a more consistent centerman for the playoffs. Emmerton was a 2nd round pick and has shown he can play a fourth line role and has upside but is still learning.

WAS
Halpern
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The Caps are in the Playoffs and not trading their best Faceoff guy in the middle of a playoff run back into 3rd (1st in the SE)... plus Halpern is from MD and a fav favorite...

next please!

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The Caps are in the Playoffs and not trading their best Faceoff guy in the middle of a playoff run back into 3rd (1st in the SE)... plus Halpern is from MD and a fav favorite...

next please!
I can understand that. I didn't think there was a chance when the Caps are in the hunt.

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I think Slater is underrated as a shutdown center outside of the Jets boards. He'd be a great playoff rental for any team really. As a pending UFA I realize his value is low but I'd hope that there'd be a few more teams interested in him and that the return would then be a lot better. The Jets should just keep him and focus on re-signing him if they can't get a 2nd for him at the deadline. For the sake of comparison, MTL gave up a 2nd for Dominic Moore as a third-line rental a couple years ago and while I thought it was overpayment, he was instrumental in their playoff run.

I can't say I'm familiar with Emmerton though.

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01-17-2012, 11:12 AM
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we got about 9 guys playing for a bottom 6 role. Sure, we really need yet another one.

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we got about 9 guys playing for a bottom 6 role. Sure, we really need yet another one.
Nope. We have many good bottom 6 wingers, but the centers are one injury away to be a weak position. You have to prepare for injuries and sign depth. Samuel Påhlsson could be ideal.

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Gordon just got back from injury and is doing a great job in the circle. Also put in 2 goals yesterday against the aves. I don't see the yotes dealing him.

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The Emmerton+ for Pahlsson deal would be reasonably acceptable IMO. Emmerton isn't that much beyond what we already have, but the same's also true of Pahlsson. And who knows; maybe he can become something special over here.

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Gaustad most likely would command a mid 2nd round pick.

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Any chance we could get Konopka from Edmonton? I'd throw Emmerton and a 3rd their way in a heartbeat.

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Gordon just got back from injury and is doing a great job in the circle. Also put in 2 goals yesterday against the aves. I don't see the yotes dealing him.
Also, he's under contract for next season. Even if we go in the tank this year, no reason to move him. He can help us get where we need to be next season.

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CBJ
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Emmerton + 4th

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we got about 9 guys playing for a bottom 6 role. Sure, we really need yet another one.
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Nope. We have many good bottom 6 wingers, but the centers are one injury away to be a weak position. You have to prepare for injuries and sign depth. Samuel Påhlsson could be ideal.
That was the entire point of this thread. Yes we have many bottom six players all fighting for ice time but if we move Abdelkader to wing which he is better suited we lack centerman. Every single guy on that list would be better at taking draws then Emmerton right now. Not saying he won't improve but going into the playoffs I would rather have a vertern guy on the fourth line taking faceoffs.

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For the right price I could see the Islanders Trading Nielsen....and I could see his cheap pay as a good fit for The Wings or The Hawks for the right price...

I feel The Islanders could make a Package deal of Nielsen and Staois or Jucina...and a Pick for a Good Prospect or Player.


For some reason I see The Deal Happening with The Hawks...of Nielsen, Staois, and a pick for ????

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Caps brought Halpern back because the fans really like him, doubt they trade him unless they get an unreasonable return or they are for sure out of it (wont happen by the deadline) and he wants a chance at the cup.

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Aside from faceoffs, how is Gaustad's defensive play? He'd be on the 4th line with Holmstrom and Abdelkader so he'll need to be good defensively if that line is going to see any ice at all during away games.

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If the Jets are out at the deadline, I wouldn't mind that deal (although I'd hope we can get a 2nd for him straight up). If he walks away, we have Cormier ready to replace him next year. Plus he's from Michigan, so he would probably re-sign with the Wings.

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Nope. We have many good bottom 6 wingers, but the centers are one injury away to be a weak position. You have to prepare for injuries and sign depth. Samuel Påhlsson could be ideal.
Pahlsson and Gaustad are the only ones I would even consider for Emmerton. I was not high on him earlier but he is growing on me. And whats he at right now 40%? Not bad for a rookie. I say no to all of them because you can probably get those players for a prospect and a pick.

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Im taking it you really dont care for Emmerton...

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Emmerton is good defensively but bad at faceoffs and unlikely to produce offense of any sort. He isn't disliked but Detroit has prospects coming up who can fill the role at least as well with the potential for a little offense so he's seen as expendable.

Edit: He's also a bit small. Many Detroit fans want a fighter or at least a larger bottom 6.


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Halpern is certainly not "untouchable" but we like him a lot here in the DC-Maryland-Virginia area, and would rather not part with the homegrown boy. (GMGM likes him a lot too)

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I think the question you have to ask yourself is... why do any of these teams want to trade for Corey Emmerton?

All those guys are useful to their respective teams. If they're gonna trade them, it's going to be to playoff-bound teams, and they'll probably be able to pick a better player/pick than Corey Emmerton.

From a Jets perspective..
I'd rather keep Slater and try re-signing him, and risk losing him for nothing... than trade him for Corey Emmerton.

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Im taking it you really dont care for Emmerton...
I actually don't mind Emmerton at all. I think in a few years he will be a very solid bottom six one day. Only reason he was in every offer was I was asking for a center so he was the only roster player that plays center that I would be willing to give up for those guys.

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I think the question you have to ask yourself is... why do any of these teams want to trade for Corey Emmerton?

All those guys are useful to their respective teams. If they're gonna trade them, it's going to be to playoff-bound teams, and they'll probably be able to pick a better player/pick than Corey Emmerton.

From a Jets perspective..
I'd rather keep Slater and try re-signing him, and risk losing him for nothing... than trade him for Corey Emmerton.
If your team is out of the playoffs and you might lose him for nothing you wouldnt want a former second rounder and a pick. Even if you don't like Emmerton go a head and waive him you still get a pick which is better then nothing. I totally understand if you believe he will be re-signed but your taking a chance at getting nothing.

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