Wolves won but all in all it was a pretty poor effort. Overall the Wolves seemed to get steam-rolled by a more physical and aggressive Heat team and only some puck luck and good goal-tending by Climie saved their bacon.
Thought Schroeder skated well and competed hard and on the third period rush demonstrated his excellent speed. Seemed, however, to get hung in traffic a lot. His defensive work and two way play continues to be impressive.
Good on Polosek to hang in with a real heavy weight but I wish the Canucks would get some true enforcer or some more muscle to prevent their younger players from getting run as much as they do. When you consider some of the bad contracts the team has you wonder why the Canucks didn't use some of the contract space to pick up some protection for their prospects. For example, Rodin got run tonight hard and, as usual, there was no response.
Reinprecht is playing well enough to think he might provide some depth in the playoffs. But it is hard to see how Bitz can be of any use. He continues to struggle to get anything done and was absolutely brain dead on one of the Heat goals.
Are we able to call up Reinprecht for the playoffs without re-entry waivers?
I think after the trade deadline we could only recall him if he were on the roster at the deadline. I don't recall how or if re-entry waivers works for the playoffs.
Are we able to call up Reinprecht for the playoffs without re-entry waivers?
Not without re-entry waivers, but no one would claim him since he'd be ineligible to play for his new team. You might see a guy on a multi-year deal get claimed in that situation, but for a guy with an expiring contract re-entry waivers after the trade deadline is basically a formality.
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I think after the trade deadline we could only recall him if he were on the roster at the deadline. I don't recall how or if re-entry waivers works for the playoffs.
It's the opposite. You can't send down a player post trade deadline unless he wasn't on the roster on deadline day. You can recall anyone you want, though there is a limit of 4 call ups after the deadline. After you use those up you need to be in an emergency situation to call anyone else up prior to the playoffs.
There is the possibility, that even with an expiring contract, someone could claim Reinprecht on re-entry waivers just to stick the Canucks with half of his salary on our cap and deny us the player. Once the playoffs start, there is no Salary Cap (more correctly, there is no salary to apply to the cap) but they could still deny us the player. If he cleared waivers Reinprecht could be a decent depth guy for the playoffs.
It would be a nasty move, but there are some nasty people out there.
There is the possibility, that even with an expiring contract, someone could claim Reinprecht on re-entry waivers just to stick the Canucks with half of his salary on our cap and deny us the player. Once the playoffs start, there is no Salary Cap (more correctly, there is no salary to apply to the cap) but they could still deny us the player. If he cleared waivers Reinprecht could be a decent depth guy for the playoffs.
It would be a nasty move, but there are some nasty people out there.
It's possible, though I don't that's ever happened. It'd probably be seen as a pretty big slight towards a player to deprive him of potentially taking part in a playoff run and playing for a contract next season.
Could anyone see Schroeder possibly replacing Hodgson on the third line next year? Assuming Cody moves up to line 2?
He probably still needs another year of seasoning in the A. Unless he has a real dynamite second half and training camp, I'm guessing he'll be in a similar position to that of Hodgson last year - among the first call ups.
Has he been playing much on the wing lately? It seemed like he was a lot more effective at centre. Ideally, he would convert to wing.
Question: What's the report on Sauve? Seems like a guy with a great set of tools. Do you guys see his as an NHLer down the road?
Could anyone see Schroeder possibly replacing Hodgson on the third line next year? Assuming Cody moves up to line 2?
Schroeder made a good showing at training camp this year (was almost as good as Hodgson). He went into a bit of a funk when he was first sent down, but has been hot for the last month.
Long term however he is going to have a difficult time making the Canucks roster. The Canucks are stacked at centre (Henrik, Kesler, Hodgson, Lapierre, Malhotra) and as a winger Schroeder is a smaller version of Mason Raymond.
I honestly think he is an asset that will be traded.
Schroeder made a good showing at training camp this year (was almost as good as Hodgson). He went into a bit of a funk when he was first sent down, but has been hot for the last month.
Long term however he is going to have a difficult time making the Canucks roster. The Canucks are stacked at centre (Henrik, Kesler, Hodgson, Lapierre, Malhotra) and as a winger Schroeder is a smaller version of Mason Raymond.
I honestly think he is an asset that will be traded.
Well, if Hodgson moves down to centering Kesler then a spot opens up on the 3rd line. I would prefer not to go back to having Manny there and certainly not Lapierre. Schroeder could make a good replacement for Cody if he keeps developing.
Saying we're stacked at center and have no room for Schroeder is silly when one considers rosters of teams like Philly and Boston, especially the latter.
Schroeder made a good showing at training camp this year (was almost as good as Hodgson). He went into a bit of a funk when he was first sent down, but has been hot for the last month.
Long term however he is going to have a difficult time making the Canucks roster. The Canucks are stacked at centre (Henrik, Kesler, Hodgson, Lapierre, Malhotra) and as a winger Schroeder is a smaller version of Mason Raymond.
I honestly think he is an asset that will be traded.
Bear in mind though, that Lapierre and Malhotra are UFAs after next season. Maybe we retain one of them and bring in Schroeder to centre the third
I don't think Shroeder will be a regular next October though. Unless something changes, there isn't really a spot for him down the middle.
I still see him as a center and that's his strength as well as where he has been playing for most games this year. His defensive game was shown in pre-season and only been more emphasized down in Chicago. His reads in the defensive zone are really good, always in the right position and quick to provide support for his D in the corners as well as for his wingers. He uses his speed to take away pucks from opponents and this often springs the play the other way for an offensive chance. And this is the biggest difference from this year to last. He's committed at both ends of the ice and that in turn has helped him generate more offense.
I think he could one day fill out a spot for the Canucks, but its going to have to be at center, unless he can somehow translate his game on wing, which i've yet to see him do this year (albeit on Mancari's wing - bleh). If he can't, i see him traded.
Well, if Hodgson moves down to centering Kesler then a spot opens up on the 3rd line. I would prefer not to go back to having Manny there and certainly not Lapierre. Schroeder could make a good replacement for Cody if he keeps developing.
Saying we're stacked at center and have no room for Schroeder is silly when one considers rosters of teams like Philly and Boston, especially the latter.
True enough, I'm just not convinced that a 5'9" (generously) center is the ideal fit on our third line. Size isn't everything, but his frame does mean he can't really pack on a lot more than his current 177lbs. Does he play really strong on the puck? How good is he defensively? Is he good on faceoffs (AHL doesn't show FO% stats)? His Goals/Assist ratio is 11/13 - looks to be more of a shooter than a passer? Hard so say.
A shorter guy has to show a lot more than a bigger player, but as he was a Mike Gillis draft pick, they are going to give him a look.
Well, if Hodgson moves down to centering Kesler then a spot opens up on the 3rd line. I would prefer not to go back to having Manny there and certainly not Lapierre. Schroeder could make a good replacement for Cody if he keeps developing.
Saying we're stacked at center and have no room for Schroeder is silly when one considers rosters of teams like Philly and Boston, especially the latter.
If they ever decide to give Schroeder a shot, allow the 3rd line with Hodgson to eat more minutes as the "HHH" line and let Jordan have a real shot with Booth and Kesler...
That is a spot to me that fits all players involved, let Kesler take the draws but have Jordan be the guy pulling the strings.
Booth and Kesler with Schroeder has all the makings of a dynamic offensive line with a Selke winning conscience.
If they ever decide to give Schroeder a shot, allow the 3rd line with Hodgson to eat more minutes as the "HHH" line and let Jordan have a real shot with Booth and Kesler...
That is a spot to me that fits all players involved, let Kesler take the draws but have Jordan be the guy pulling the strings.
Booth and Kesler with Schroeder has all the makings of a dynamic offensive line with a Selke winning conscience.
I've been saying this since the summer, not that I thought it should've been the lineup from day 1 but that if all the players play to their potential a lineup looking like..
would look terrific. Schroeder is the ultimate complimentary player. He gives the line a playmaking centre that can dish the puck out effectively.
If you look at Hodgsons numbers in the ahl last season his goal to assist ratio was 17 to 13 which is higher in goals then what hes usually use to in his career. This is obviously due to the fact that his linemates were not converting like they should. Now, look at Schroeders ratio of goals to assists this season, 11 to 13 so far. Schroeder is predominantly a playmaker. Its basically unheard of to see him score almost as many goals as assists. Obviously Schroeder is suffering from the same unfortunate circumstance as Hodgson did last season.
Actually, if you check the pace that Hodgson was at last season in the AHL and compare it to Schroeders season this year they are virtually the same. And if Schroeder continues to keep up his pace in his last 20 or so games then he should beat that pace fairly easily.
I've been saying this since the summer, not that I thought it should've been the lineup from day 1 but that if all the players play to their potential a lineup looking like..
would look terrific. Schroeder is the ultimate complimentary player. He gives the line a playmaking centre that can dish the puck out effectively.
If you look at Hodgsons numbers in the ahl last season his goal to assist ratio was 17 to 13 which is higher in goals then what hes usually use to in his career. This is obviously due to the fact that his linemates were not converting like they should. Now, look at Schroeders ratio of goals to assists this season, 11 to 13 so far. Schroeder is predominantly a playmaker. Its basically unheard of to see him score almost as many goals as assists. Obviously Schroeder is suffering from the same unfortunate circumstance as Hodgson did last season.
Actually, if you check the pace that Hodgson was at last season in the AHL and compare it to Schroeders season this year they are virtually the same. And if Schroeder continues to keep up his pace in his last 20 or so games then he should beat that pace fairly easily.
My thoughts exactly. In addition, reports consistently have him playing very well defensively and while he would obviously need to adapt to the NHL he should at least be adequate in his own end.
I was thinking promoting Hodgson to the second line and Schroeder following in Hodgson's footsteps taking over as the third line center, but the lines you posted look very solid too. Would give is a balanced scoring attack across three lines, and frees up cap space to hold on to Schneider or make a splash for Weber or Suter.
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^ Agreed. I don't ever want us to go back to 2 offensive lines and 2 defensive lines. I really liked our scoring depth when Wellwood was here and having Hodgson there now brings us back to that level of balance. IMO having 3 scoring lines is the way to go.
4-0 Wolves in the 3rd:
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1. CHI Reinprecht, (7) (Mancari, Rodin), 4:22
1. CHI Reinprecht, (8) , 6:33 (SH)
1. CHI Schroeder, (12) (Sweatt, Haydar), 12:57
2. CHI Sweatt, (10) (Rodin, Schroeder), 8:14 (PP)
Anyone know if MG and the brass are personally in attendance? Might explain why.
Question: What's the report on Sauve? Seems like a guy with a great set of tools. Do you guys see his as an NHLer down the road?
Since no one else took the Q, I do like Sauve. He is a clear defensive defenseman, in my mind. Most of the games i've watched, he plays a steady game by making smart clears and passes. He plays the body along the walls, usually likes to stand a guy up when they enter the zone along the boards. Throws some nice body checks time to time. Plays a big role on the PK.
Offensively, I thought he looked good with the Moose last year on the PP, showed a nice shot there. Here, he hasn't had much opportunity at all really. His passes are generally very hard and on target. I feel Sauve's passes are as hard as Tanev's shots are. I think some teammates have some trouble handling them sometimes.
However, i think his issue still is inconsistency. There are times where his play shows he is very nervous or flustered at times. Then he gets chasing and tries to do too much. But he has looked fairly good with Baumer. Sauve's pretty vocal and wears the A.
I see him as a 5-6 D man in the NHL as a safe projection. #4 as the high end potential.
Since no one else took the Q, I do like Sauve. He is a clear defensive defenseman, in my mind. Most of the games i've watched, he plays a steady game by making smart clears and passes. He plays the body along the walls, usually likes to stand a guy up when they enter the zone along the boards. Throws some nice body checks time to time. Plays a big role on the PK.
Offensively, I thought he looked good with the Moose last year on the PP, showed a nice shot there. Here, he hasn't had much opportunity at all really. His passes are generally very hard and on target. I feel Sauve's passes are as hard as Tanev's shots are. I think some teammates have some trouble handling them sometimes.
However, i think his issue still is inconsistency. There are times where his play shows he is very nervous or flustered at times. Then he gets chasing and tries to do too much. But he has looked fairly good with Baumer. Sauve's pretty vocal and wears the A.
I see him as a 5-6 D man in the NHL as a safe projection. #4 as the high end potential.
He's a fantastic player. People can't write off a defensive defensemen especially one who has played well. Defensive defensemen take time to develop. It's a trial and error/refinement of their game that makes defensemen so much better. Give Sauve another two years and he will be a rock on our third line.
I'm very excited for Schroeder. I see him being the ultimate complimentary player. For whatever reason I see him in a Stars jersey though.
That's a strange couple of games against the Heat. In the first game Wolves get outplayed and barely scrapped out a win. You figure going into the game that the Heat will continue the momentum and jump all over the Wolves. Instead the Wolves handle them with absolute authority.
Anyhow, nice to see Lack get the shut out (although it mostly a pretty easy one) and see the young players on defense step up. Tanev in particular was great. Plays with ease at this level, moving easily around, controlling the play and distributing the puck. Also thought Connauton and Sauve had strong games and Polosek did a better job of staying out of trouble. Seemed like Polosek had the big face shield on after the tilt with LeBlond and probably playing with a broken nose.
On Sauve I would say that he has cut back significantly on the kind of major errors that, in the past, hurt his game. There are still times IMO when he gets a slow read on a play or doesn't box out quickly enough around his net. But there is progression here. He is a much better player than last year and that really is the key to assessing the development of any young player - is he progressing or is he stalling out. Sauve has it physically and athletically but there still might be questions about his ability to anticipate or react quickly enough to situations.
On Connauton, I would again say he demonstrated his power game and his improved d-zone coverage. However, I thought, at times, he was maybe trying to do a little too much to impress the Canuck brass. One problem for Connnauton this week was the inability of the power play to set up much and give him more opportunity to use his shot. One player who I didn't like this week was Haydar (who is probably playing hurt) and I thought Haydar had lot to do with the poor power play.
Of the forwards all of Sweatt, Schroeder, and Rodin were good. Sweatt especially showed of some tremendous speed and and good stick work. Thought that he and Reinprecht were the best forwards. Also, I thought Bitz was better tonite and hopefully his game is coming around.
On Schroeder I would say that he is firmly establishing the type of player he is. Some early comparisons to people like Parise which always seemed haywire IMO (and maybe just based on the fact they were bopth Americans) are proving not to be valid. If anything Schroeder is more like a Larionov. I am not saying he is any where near as good as Larionov but like Larionov he is more of a set up player who uses his skill and speed to facilitate play in both the defensive and offensive zone. Schroeder has tremendous skill, quickness and more strength than his size would indicate. But he needs to playing in the middle of the ice to use what he has. In time he should be able to use his finesse to become an NHL player. In fact, if he continues to develop he could be one excellent player. I think that he is getting close but clearly he still needs more time in the minors and I don't see him as immediate help for the Canucks.
On Schroeder I would say that he is firmly establishing the type of player he is. Some early comparisons to people like Parise which always seemed haywire IMO (and maybe just based on the fact they were bopth Americans) are proving not to be valid. If anything Schroeder is more like a Larionov. I am not saying he is any where near as good as Larionov but like Larionov he is more of a set up player who uses his skill and speed to facilitate play in both the defensive and offensive zone. Schroeder has tremendous skill, quickness and more strength than his size would indicate. But he needs to playing in the middle of the ice to use what he has. In time he should be able to use his finesse to become an NHL player. In fact, if he continues to develop he could be one excellent player. I think that he is getting close but clearly he still needs more time in the minors and I don't see him as immediate help for the Canucks.
Don't tease me now, Larionov was stellar. His hockey IQ was off the charts. Always impressed me as a player, as well as Ronning. If Schroeder turns out anything like him, this poster is going to be very happy indeed.
