Is that enough experience for Lack as compared to Schneider before he became backup for Lui
He has one year in Swedish Div-II, one year backing up Jacob Markstrom, and last year with the Moose. And what he has up to now
I think Lack should do a half season in the AHL next season before doing full time duty in the big leagues
Well, up to this point in time, he seems to have lost the starters job to Climie, who is a career AHLer. So, I would say that Lack at least needs to steal that job back which he may be in the process of doing as he has had good outings in his last few starts from what I can gather. I think he probably needs at least another 1/2 year next year of being the #1 starter for the Wolves and doing a good job at it.
Well, up to this point in time, he seems to have lost the starters job to Climie, who is a career AHLer. So, I would say that Lack at least needs to steal that job back which he may be in the process of doing as he has had good outings in his last few starts from what I can gather. I think he probably needs at least another 1/2 year next year of being the #1 starter for the Wolves and doing a good job at it.
I wouldn't say he has lost the starting job to Climie, Lack has played 4 games more than Climie. Climie has the better stats though and is having his best season ever, and Lacks stats aren't quite as good as last year, I won't comment on his game, I'll let others do that. I believe the goaltending situation is quite similar to last year on the Moose where the planned on having the goalies split time evenly unless one of them ran away with the starting job.
Schroeder with a shorthanded goal this morning, that puts him at 6-5-11 in the last 12 games. Also leads the team with 5 GWG. Sounds like he's really figured it out lately.
Schroeder with a shorthanded goal this morning, that puts him at 6-5-11 in the last 12 games. Also leads the team with 5 GWG. Sounds like he's really figured it out lately.
You have to think the Canucks will be looking to get Schroeder a cup of coffee with the team this season. It will be good for his development and help him be better prepared to take a run at a roster spot next year if he gets to see the speed of the NHL this year, not to mention rewarding him for working hard and buying in defensively is never a bad thing. As well as giving him the confidence boost to finally dominate that level - something that is common when players move up, play against the best in the world, then move down and find the AHL that much easier...
If Schroeder continues his strong play it will be a mistake not to get him up at some point this season IMO. If we're willing to invest developmental minutes in players with little to no NHL upside like Bolduc, Volpatti, Duco, Desbiens etc. why not do the same for guys with legitimate skillsets that could be core players down the road? Seems strange to overlook Schroeder at this point.
If Schroeder continues his strong play it will be a mistake not to get him up at some point this season IMO. If we're willing to invest developmental minutes in players with little to no NHL upside like Bolduc, Volpatti, Duco, Desbiens etc. why not do the same for guys with legitimate skillsets that could be core players down the road? Seems strange to overlook Schroeder at this point.
Not sure man, Alberts has the potential to exceed anything Schroeder can provide offensively.
Schroeder with a shorthanded goal this morning, that puts him at 6-5-11 in the last 12 games. Also leads the team with 5 GWG. Sounds like he's really figured it out lately.
Some of the college guys might take longer to adjust to the pro-game. I know Schneider talked about how much of shock it was.
I think Schroeder's hot start when he first level college unrealistically raised expectations. As you say, college guys aren't used to the schedule, etc. An adjustment period isn't unheard of, especially with a small guy like Schroeder.
You have to think the Canucks will be looking to get Schroeder a cup of coffee with the team this season. It will be good for his development and help him be better prepared to take a run at a roster spot next year if he gets to see the speed of the NHL this year, not to mention rewarding him for working hard and buying in defensively is never a bad thing. As well as giving him the confidence boost to finally dominate that level - something that is common when players move up, play against the best in the world, then move down and find the AHL that much easier...
If Schroeder continues his strong play it will be a mistake not to get him up at some point this season IMO. If we're willing to invest developmental minutes in players with little to no NHL upside like Bolduc, Volpatti, Duco, Desbiens etc. why not do the same for guys with legitimate skillsets that could be core players down the road? Seems strange to overlook Schroeder at this point.
Depends on the methodology of the team.
Detroit doesn't give their prospects a sniff until they are forced to do so - either by injury, by waiver eligibility or great play. They force prospects to get management's attention. Now I don't ascribe to this philosophy because you could stagnate development doing this as well IMO. But if there's a choice, better to err on the side of conservatism when it comes to prospects.
To contrast, Chicago gives heavy minutes to their "next wave". At any point, you can count 3 ELCs on their roster. This year, they've given time to Hayes, Shaw, Kruger, Leddy (a must), and more. It's the opposite of what the Canucks are doing. In fact, the nux sent Tanev down for further development when he really could have stayed up (A decision I advocated and agree with).
Point is, these organizations have different methodologies to development. The Canucks are following what Detroit is doing. They don't have a Detroit level prospect pool, but they are following the same conservative approach with the prospects they do have. This is why I don't think Schroeder gets a call up this year. The cap also factors in also.
Schroeder needs to keep doing well and carry over his play to the playoffs. That will get MGs attention sure enough, and he may just earn a serious look at next year's camp...
Detroit doesn't give their prospects a sniff until they are forced to do so - either by injury, by waiver eligibility or great play. They force prospects to get management's attention. Now I don't ascribe to this philosophy because you could stagnate development doing this as well IMO. But if there's a choice, better to err on the side of conservatism when it comes to prospects.
Have there been any players whose development was ruined due to being stuck in the AHL too long?
I think Schroeder's hot start when he first level college unrealistically raised expectations. As you say, college guys aren't used to the schedule, etc. An adjustment period isn't unheard of, especially with a small guy like Schroeder.
Most players don't take almost 2 years to adjust, though.
Have there been any players whose development was ruined due to being stuck in the AHL too long?
Hard to prove a negative, but you see it around the league where players don't get a chance with their initial organization and they breakout later on in their careers.
Now that I think about it, Grabner was a prospect that was not allowed to work out his issues at the NHL level on a good team. NYI was a good place for him to do that. They gave him that opportunity. Same thing with PA Parenteau. So sometimes players can slip through the cracks and flourish elsewhere.
I'm far more on board with the Detroit model FTR. I just don't see them making exceptions for players often based on their NHL depth. So a team that follows the Detroit model but allows for a few more exceptions would be ideal.
Have there been any players whose development was ruined due to being stuck in the AHL too long?
Bobby Ryan was held back for cap reasons. And it could be argued that Kyle Turris and Brett MacLean were held back in favour of veterans in Phoenix.
Also with Russian players there is always the risk that if you send them to the AHL they will bail and return to Russia. Serge Shirokov was probably ready to make an NHL roster. Just not the Canucks last season.
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