HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > National Hockey League Talk
National Hockey League Talk Discuss NHL players, teams, games, and the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Your top 3 most overrated and underrated

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-17-2012, 11:10 PM
  #51
Blues88
Registered User
 
Blues88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis
Country: United States
Posts: 1,193
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by StalockSuperfan View Post
Since 2008 only Stamkos and Ovechkin have more goals than Marleau. Just sayin'.
I see that as a good thing and a bad thing.

Blues88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2012, 11:11 PM
  #52
IBleedNYRBlue
Registered User
 
IBleedNYRBlue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 2,780
vCash: 500
Overrated:
Nash
Price
M. Richards


Underrated:
Hossa
Backstrom (Both)
Kopitar

IBleedNYRBlue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2012, 11:12 PM
  #53
decadentia
Registered User
 
decadentia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New Brunswick
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,547
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jtown View Post
more like his Briere esqe defense. What good is scoring every game if you give up a goal every game.
Again, he hasn't been playing well as of late, for his age he's pretty complete. It's not as if the majority of the last two seasons he's been porous defensively.

decadentia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2012, 11:12 PM
  #54
IBleedNYRBlue
Registered User
 
IBleedNYRBlue's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 2,780
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Barrasso View Post
Network's Overrated:
Phaneuf
Subban
Lecavalier

Network's Underrated:
Benn
Mikko Koivu
Spezza

Hf's Overrated
Toews
Parise
Kesler

Hfs Underrated
Crosby (seriously, people making threads about him no longer being top 5?)
Datsyuk
Parenteau (You'd think no one even knows of his existence.)
Maybe because he's been injured?

IBleedNYRBlue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2012, 11:20 PM
  #55
IBLeaf*
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oakville, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,378
vCash: 500
Overrated:
Nash
Kesler
Reimer


Underrated:
Hossa
Spezza
Gunnarsson

IBLeaf* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-17-2012, 11:36 PM
  #56
CarRamRod51
Registered User
 
CarRamRod51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Hamilton
Country: Canada
Posts: 18
vCash: 500
O.R: Joe Thornton/Dion Phaneuf/Jay Bouwmeester[maybe not so much anymore but he's still the most over-rated/overpayed NHL player] Gomez a close 2nd.

U.R: Tomas Fleischmann/PA Parenteau/Valtteri Filppula/Jason Garrison.

[not a Panthers fan by any stretch]

CarRamRod51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:07 AM
  #57
gampy
Registered User
 
gampy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arnprior, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,714
vCash: 500
I had to laugh at the guy who thinks Alfredsson is over-rated.
I think he was a Leafs fan, so I would just direct him to tonight's Leafs / Sens game hi-lights.
Back hand shot at a very tough angle over Reimer's glove off a rebound.

LULZ

OK i'll try and offer my over / under:

Over: Tavares / Phaneuf / Luongo

Under: Lupul (as good as Kessel, maybe better, long term) / Anderson ( I know...homer pick, but whatever...) / Sean Avery (lolz...I'll get **** for this)


Last edited by gampy: 01-18-2012 at 12:16 AM.
gampy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:12 AM
  #58
Grabovski
Грабовский правил
 
Grabovski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gomel, Belarus
Country: Belarus
Posts: 3,963
vCash: 500
Underrated:
Phaneuf
Kessel
Schenn

Grabovski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:17 AM
  #59
Vincent01
Registered User
 
Vincent01's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Montreal
Posts: 68
vCash: 500
Overrated :

Dion Phaneuf
Brent Seabrook
Paul Statsny

Underrated :

Loui Eriksson
Dan Girardi
Ondrej Pavelec

Vincent01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:19 AM
  #60
KesseltoLupul
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,788
vCash: 500
Overrated:
Brad Marchand
Kevin Bieksa
Brian Gionta

Underrated:
Cody Franson
Martin Erat
Zach Bogosian

KesseltoLupul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:50 AM
  #61
KareyPrice
Registered User
 
KareyPrice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 757
vCash: 500
Overrated

1. Doughty
2. Reimer
3. Nash

Underrated

1.Cole (said to be a product of staal but hes doing just fine this year)
2. Moulson
3. Gomez (I kid I kid)

KareyPrice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 12:58 AM
  #62
Noreaster96
Registered User
 
Noreaster96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,317
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gampy View Post
I had to laugh at the guy who thinks Alfredsson is over-rated.
I think he was a Leafs fan, so I would just direct him to tonight's Leafs / Sens game hi-lights.
Back hand shot at a very tough angle over Reimer's glove off a rebound.

LULZ

OK i'll try and offer my over / under:

Over: Tavares / Phaneuf / Luongo

Under: Lupul (as good as Kessel, maybe better, long term) / Anderson ( I know...homer pick, but whatever...) / Sean Avery (lolz...I'll get **** for this)
You're certainly entitled to your opinion (As I am in disagreeing with you). But care you elaborate your stance for everyone?

Noreaster96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:26 AM
  #63
gampy
Registered User
 
gampy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arnprior, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,714
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noreaster96 View Post
You're certainly entitled to your opinion (As I am in disagreeing with you). But care you elaborate your stance for everyone?
He was touted as the next Crosby, Ovechkin, that would bring the Islanders out of the wilderness. Has not done that...nor do I think he ever will. Really good player..but was OVER-RATED.

gampy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:31 AM
  #64
Noreaster96
Registered User
 
Noreaster96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,317
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gampy View Post
He was touted as the next Crosby, Ovechkin, that would bring the Islanders out of the wilderness. Has not done that...nor do I think he ever will. Really good player..but was OVER-RATED.
Rome wasn't built in a day and a single player can't make an entire team... I don't think ANYONE had him the same realm as Crosby/Ovechkin when he was drafted or after. And its simply not fair to blame the failings of the entire team on him and call him "OVER-RATED"... After all last time I checked hockey was a team sport

Watch a few more Isles games, see the player he is right now and come back and tell me he's overrated... I think your opinion would be changed rather quickly after seeing how good he is and how he simply makes everyone around him that much better

Noreaster96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:36 AM
  #65
McMonster
Registered User
 
McMonster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 3,279
vCash: 500
Overrated: Tomas Vokoun, Rick Nash, Dustin Byfuglien

Underrated: Patrick Sharp, Jordan Staal, Lubomir Visnovsky

McMonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:37 AM
  #66
Sayonara77
Farewell Kes
 
Sayonara77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Country: United States
Posts: 2,175
vCash: 500
Overrated

Toews
Doughty
Brodeur
Hm-Hopkins, Kessel

Underrated

Edler
Ray Whitney
Liles
Hm-Z.Michalek, Kulikov

Sayonara77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:48 AM
  #67
gampy
Registered User
 
gampy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arnprior, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,714
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noreaster96 View Post
Rome wasn't built in a day and a single player can't make an entire team... I don't think ANYONE had him the same realm as Crosby/Ovechkin when he was drafted or after. And its simply not fair to blame the failings of the entire team on him and call him "OVER-RATED"... After all last time I checked hockey was a team sport

Watch a few more Isles games, see the player he is right now and come back and tell me he's overrated... I think your opinion would be changed rather quickly after seeing how good he is and how he simply makes everyone around him that much better
Lol...I am not the only person who believes Tavares to be over-rated. Why you suddenly picking on me? Do you remember when he was drafted? His first season with the team?

I understand that 1st or 2nd draft picks can be crapshoots, but he was super-dominate before he came to the NHL, and he really has not made the splash he was "supposed" to.
Hey... I didn't say he sux. Just not as much of a force as he was reckoned to be. Ummm...I'd say that is over-rated.

Stamkos has had more impact IMO.

gampy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 01:57 AM
  #68
Avs44
Registered User
 
Avs44's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 7,584
vCash: 3319
Overrated
Phaneuf
Lucic
Thomas


Underrated
Vrbata
Edler
Benn

Avs44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 02:00 AM
  #69
Noreaster96
Registered User
 
Noreaster96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,317
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gampy View Post
Lol...I am not the only person who believes Tavares to be over-rated. Why you suddenly picking on me? Do you remember when he was drafted? His first season with the team?

I understand that 1st or 2nd draft picks can be crapshoots, but he was super-dominate before he came to the NHL, and he really has not made the splash he was "supposed" to.
Hey... I didn't say he sux. Just not as much of a force as he was reckoned to be. Ummm...I'd say that is over-rated.

Stamkos has had more impact IMO.
Methinks you don't watch him play often... He literally takes over games and is raved about by other teams coaches and players... regardless, it is your opinion and im not going to get into a piss-fight over it...

The only people who thought he was going to swoop in and lead this franchise to the promised land in his first few seasons obviously didnt follow the team or know about the surrounding players hes had to play with over the past few years (and im not talking about his linemates, I like Moulson, Parenteau and now Okposo, i mean the teams bad defense and revolving door goalie situation)

IMO hes come as advertised and BETTER than what I was expecting... which would mean I guess he'd be underrated in my book (not top-3, or even top 10, 20 etc, but certainly not overrated... of course again which is simply just IMO)

You're certainly right in that Stamkos has had a bigger impact, but hes also playing with premeire offensive talent in their own right as well... St. Louis and Lecavieler (SP) are or at least were elite players (in some peoples minds). Nothing against his linemates, but put JT with them and I think you'd see monstrous numbers as well

Noreaster96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 02:02 AM
  #70
CrossCheck
Registered User
 
CrossCheck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Hockey home, Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,132
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by tsnTpoint View Post
Overatted

CHimera,
Seguin,
Cogliano



Underrated

Hall
Stalberg
Pajaarvi
Jealousy?

CrossCheck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 02:08 AM
  #71
gampy
Registered User
 
gampy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arnprior, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,714
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noreaster96 View Post
Methinks you don't watch him play often...
Ummmmm...of course I don't watch him play often. He plays for the NY Islanders. Lool.

Seriously, when I start seeing Tavares on the nightly hi-light reels, on the cover of Sports Illustrated, or on TV selling some over-priced running shoe, I'll re-think my stance. But you have to admit, he was touted as a game changer, and a team catalyst...someone the Isles could build a dynasty around. Maybe not his fault, but there you go.

gampy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 02:11 AM
  #72
Tumsh
Registered User
 
Tumsh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,233
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lime View Post
This thread proves once again that most people haven't the slightest idea what overrated and underrated even mean.
Actually, I have no idea what it means. I have a few vague clues as to how it's used, and what people may mean when they say it. But it's not really a well defined concept around here, is it?

Tumsh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 02:13 AM
  #73
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 17,274
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noreaster96 View Post
Methinks you don't watch him play often... He literally takes over games and is raved about by other teams coaches and players... regardless, it is your opinion and im not going to get into a piss-fight over it...

The only people who thought he was going to swoop in and lead this franchise to the promised land in his first few seasons obviously didnt follow the team or know about the surrounding players hes had to play with over the past few years (and im not talking about his linemates, I like Moulson, Parenteau and now Okposo, i mean the teams bad defense and revolving door goalie situation)

IMO hes come as advertised and BETTER than what I was expecting... which would mean I guess he'd be underrated in my book (not top-3, or even top 10, 20 etc, but certainly not overrated... of course again which is simply just IMO)

You're certainly right in that Stamkos has had a bigger impact, but hes also playing with premeire offensive talent in their own right as well... St. Louis and Lecavieler (SP) are or at least were elite players (in some peoples minds). Nothing against his linemates, but put JT with them and I think you'd see monstrous numbers as well
Pens fan saying Tavares is crazily underrated. He's alot more dangerous off the rush this year with his improved skating. Has Sid-like hand-eye. He's a franchise center imo.

mpp9 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 03:37 AM
  #74
Saku11
Registered User
 
Saku11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 4,173
vCash: 500
Overrated: Pavel Datsyuk, Giroux, Lucic
Underrated: Stamkos,Mike Richards ,O.Jokinen

Saku11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-18-2012, 03:47 AM
  #75
The Zetterberg Era
Nyquist Explosion!
 
The Zetterberg Era's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Ft. Myers, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 17,536
vCash: 515
Overrated: Paul Stastny, Drew Doughty, Patrick Kane

Underrated: Radim Vrbata, Dan Girardi, Andrew Ference

The Zetterberg Era is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.