the team was destined to fail once I heard about Hall and realized Hemsky is our best forward.
the Oilers had about the right amount of Hemsky type compete.
one thing about the injuries, it really does broadcast the lack of any depth at all on the team.
For sure.
I do think though that many of these losses are a question of heart.
If I am an opposing coach the one thing I tell my team...pressure the puck and impose your will and the Oilers will lie down.
sure, why not? lets try to injure the rest of the team too, then we can forfeit the rest of the season (which i'm hoping is an option now that we have nobody worth watching anymore)
If they had a bag skate after the LA game you can bet your ass they would've won this one. Instead we see another game where they fall apart in the third, the same thing that almost happened against LA.
You don't bag skate teams after wins. That sends a stupid message. Did you even see Quick in that game? He was phenomenal.
I'm not really all that mad we lost this one. When you're missing your entire top line and two out of your 3 best D men you can't really expect a whole lot.
How would the top teams do in a case like that? Even Pittsburgh is struggling with Crosby out. Add the Sedins, Kesler and Bieksa to Salo being out. Would the Canucks be winning?
__________________ "He just ate up Robyn Regehr for dinner, a spectacular play by Hemsky, and Robyn Regehr has got doo doo all over his face" - Rod Phillips call on Hemsky's goal vs the Flames
Meh whatever. Picking up points is a useless endeavor at this stage. Might as well embrace the suck and get another top 2 pick.
We need someone who can be an impact player next year, and none of the d-men in this draft are that IMO (we need to get a kid like Voynov who can play now and a veteran on top of that), go with one of the two Russian superkids.
If they had a bag skate after the LA game you can bet your ass they would've won this one. Instead we see another game where they fall apart in the third, the same thing that almost happened against LA.
The effort in this debacle in no way shape or form compares to the effort put forth against L.A. There was no reason to bag skate them after a good effort against L.A.
The goalie skating towards the bench as the puck sits there and the closest player to it is from the opposing team? Honestly I've never seen a play like that.
I figured Dubnyk continued going to the bench because there was a delayed penalty on the Blue Jackets. Once again the Oilers surprise me.
Kind looked like Dubby was so frustrated he didn't care.
I am questioning our coaching more and more. It seems like we panic and do stupid things when things don't go according to the pre-game plan. Tough to fire anyone when all our best players are hurt, but the poor decision making and inability to react to in game issues by our coaching staff are becoming a bigger and bigger red flag for me.
Not that upper management is getting a pass either. Our lack of depth is embarrassing right now.
How many teams in the league wouldn't be much worse with the number of injuries the Oilers have had. Take the Sedins and Edler away from Vancouver and what happens? They're still good but not 1st place good.
What happens to LA without Kopitar, Doughty and Brown?
Fact is that without an entire first line and top defence pair this team is always going to be stretched, no matter how good our depth is.
as someone alluded too, we are a team of:
-3 NHL stars...all injured
-tweeners (Petry, Peckham, Lander, Potter, Dubnyk)
-AHLers (MPS, O'Marra, Teubert, Green)
-over-the-hill has-beens contributing nothing to this team and most collecting a big paycheque (Horcoff, Sutton, Smyth)
the only healthy ones I keep are: Gagner, Hemsky, Smid, Gilbert
And lack of motivation from the coaching staff. There's no excuse for this team to get outworked on most nights and a lot of that falls on coaching.
Coaching and apathetic veterans are the 2 biggest problems with this team even bigger than the deficiencies on D and goaltending IMO.
This team has a major identity crisis which falls squarely on the "leaders" of the team.
Will and heart come from within...its a player issue.
Agree on the 'D' and the goaltending and the identity issue.
What is the identity of this team? Anybody figured that out yet?
Good thing the Oilers wasted a first round draft pick on a back up goaltender.
The defence was destined to be a failure from the start of the season so I am not at all surprised at how thats gone.
No team would be able to compete with the 3 best forwards out as well as the 2 top defensemen. How would Vancouver do in a situation like that? How about Detroit? San Jose? Chicago? Boston? Washington? We're seeing the affect with Pittsburgh.
you're like the oilers coaching staff. just making lame excuses instead of getting to the heart of the problem.
all of the teams you mentioned have enough depth to at least play .500 hockey when hit hard with injuries, not .200 hockey. and their level of compete will still be there.
most teams with players out will make you earn the victory and make you out play them. with the oilers, you just have to be patient and let them beat themselves.
How many teams in the league wouldn't be much worse with the number of injuries the Oilers have had. Take the Sedins and Edler away from Vancouver and what happens? They're still good but not 1st place good.
What happens to LA without Kopitar, Doughty and Brown?
Fact is that without an entire first line and top defence pair this team is always going to be stretched, no matter how good our depth is.
It actually would be more like take the Sedins + Kesler and Edler + another one of their top d-men.
How many teams in the league wouldn't be much worse with the number of injuries the Oilers have had. Take the Sedins and Edler away from Vancouver and what happens? They're still good but not 1st place good.
What happens to LA without Kopitar, Doughty and Brown?
Fact is that without an entire first line and top defence pair this team is always going to be stretched, no matter how good our depth is.
thats where coaching comes in. if you have and identity, a system and a decent goalie, you can be competitive. the oilers do not and are not.
you're like the oilers coaching staff. just making lame excuses instead of getting to the heart of the problem.
all of the teams you mentioned have enough depth to at least play .500 hockey when hit hard with injuries, not .200 hockey. and their level of compete will still be there.
most teams with players out will make you earn the victory and make you out play them. with the oilers, you just have to be patient and let them beat themselves.
B-But the Canucks lost the Cup because of injuries!
you're like the oilers coaching staff. just making lame excuses instead of getting to the heart of the problem.
all of the teams you mentioned have enough depth to at least play .500 hockey when hit hard with injuries, not .200 hockey. and their level of compete will still be there.
most teams with players out will make you earn the victory and make you out play them. with the oilers, you just have to be patient and let them beat themselves.
We're not as good as those teams even when healthy.
This team just isn't very good with the amount of injuries sustained, no amount of effort is going to change that.
Find me one worse NHL roster that was iced tonight. You can't.
At some point this is just like yelling and screaming at a sprinter who's just been shot in the leg for not trying hard enough to win the race, lol.
