Shawn Rine is concerned about his job. That is my guess. If the Nailers are not in town, what is he going to cover? He seems like one of the media types who likes to create a stir. He tried it last season with his the Penguins do not care for us article. This one with the mayor not offering to buy the team from city coffers. (Just my read on it.)
I did find it interesting that he said how all of the Pittsburgh sports media talked about it. I have not heard a thing about it on the local talk radio. Plus I did not hear it mentioned during the Penguins' game. Now I did miss the second period while I shovelled snow plus I missed the pregame so it could have been mentioned. He gives no examples of these sports personalities who said something.
Criticiing the mayor isn't professional. Now I don't mind ousting him with facts but instead he was being rude. I admit I don't read the wheeling paper but doesnt he cover anything else in sports? Our guy does some high school stuff and other things...
SaveTheNailers* Fan page on Facebook. I have no idea what the site is supposed to be, a message board?
Really? Pens fans on here care that much?
Not really. It started out as a joke with somebody mentioning we should buy them and it just kind of expanded from there. Good Lord, could you imagine a team being run by people from these boards.
Criticiing the mayor isn't professional. Now I don't mind ousting him with facts but instead he was being rude. I admit I don't read the wheeling paper but doesnt he cover anything else in sports? Our guy does some high school stuff and other things...
He might, but that would make it even worse for him. The closest thing he gets to being a star is covering the pro team in town which is the Nailers. With them he gets to write and act like he is a part of the team. It seems to be a common theme with guys who cover a pro team. They act like they are part of the team and develop a bit of that homerism that drives some people nuts. Rine also seems to be a huge fan of the Brooks so since he can not attack them he has to direct his bile elsewhere. This time it is the mayor.
He might, but that would make it even worse for him. The closest thing he gets to being a star is covering the pro team in town which is the Nailers. With them he gets to write and act like he is a part of the team. It seems to be a common theme with guys who cover a pro team. They act like they are part of the team and develop a bit of that homerism that drives some people nuts. Rine also seems to be a huge fan of the Brooks so since he can not attack them he has to direct his bile elsewhere. This time it is the mayor.
I kinda like that about our guy, hes not biased he's even admitted aside from the NY Giants he really doesn't care. So he just does his job as is. However I do catch a lot of lazy little errors.
Not really. It started out as a joke with somebody mentioning we should buy them and it just kind of expanded from there. Good Lord, could you imagine a team being run by people from these boards.
Would be like an FHL or AAHL type of ownership.
Keep hearing that some are interested yet none of the wheeling fans have names, just repeating what Jimbo said. It's one thing to have interest but it's another to have the dough...
The ECHL has to be lying. They let Johnstown go really fast. Indfact that broke midseason as well. No time was put in to find a local owner. If there is an arena worse than JTown was, it's WesBanco. Lol, good luck but nobody in Wheeling has money. Why does the ECHL wanna stay in a market barely getting 2,600? I'm sure some of that figure is padded.
If I recall correctly, and I'm trying to do this without having to look up any info since I'm the only guy from IT here today, the team went up for sale after Neil Smith took over coaching duties in Johnstown. I think he took over about halfway through the 2009-10 season. I think it was in January, but it might have been February.
About a month after he took over, and I only remember this because of people making comments about him cutting costs so he could sale the team, Greenville announced they were interested in the team and about 2 weeks after the announcement, they said a deal was finalized.
I kinda like that about our guy, hes not biased he's even admitted aside from the NY Giants he really doesn't care. So he just does his job as is. However I do catch a lot of lazy little errors.
I have to admit that I do not know Rine all that well or follow him that much. What I have seen appears to be a bad pattern. Things are not going the way he thinks they should with the Nailers. Somebody must be railed at. The Brooks are off the table so who can he blame now. Last year the Penguins for all the call ups. This year the mayor because he does not realize how inmportant the Nailers are to the sity.
Keep hearing that some are interested yet none of the wheeling fans have names, just repeating what Jimbo said. It's one thing to have interest but it's another to have the dough...
Maybe there is interest. Somewhere I heard a quote of like $850,000. While that is a lot of money, it might be doable to a civic minded business owner like one of the Casinos or hotel owners.
Besides, there may have been interest in the past with all of the times the team has been rumored to be leaving so Jim Brooks might be considering them now. Plus, if the Penguins ownership were to consider it, they would probably be considered local. The one reason why I think the Penguins might be a possiblity (longshot) is that I seem to remember seeing a media guide one season where Eddie Johnston was listed as a consultant while he was under contract with the Penguins.
Maybe there is interest. Somewhere I heard a quote of like $850,000. While that is a lot of money, it might be doable to a civic minded business owner like one of the Casinos or hotel owners.
Besides, there may have been interest in the past with all of the times the team has been rumored to be leaving so Jim Brooks might be considering them now. Plus, if the Penguins ownership were to consider it, they would probably be considered local. The one reason why I think the Penguins might be a possiblity (longshot) is that I seem to remember seeing a media guide one season where Eddie Johnston was listed as a consultant while he was under contract with the Penguins.
If they are inclined to lose money. The hotel(McClure)already is the teams official hotel but it's not like they don't have the publicity. For them I cant see it making sense.
If I recall correctly, and I'm trying to do this without having to look up any info since I'm the only guy from IT here today, the team went up for sale after Neil Smith took over coaching duties in Johnstown. I think he took over about halfway through the 2009-10 season. I think it was in January, but it might have been February.
About a month after he took over, and I only remember this because of people making comments about him cutting costs so he could sale the team, Greenville announced they were interested in the team and about 2 weeks after the announcement, they said a deal was finalized.
What I meant is from a public stand point if I recall correctly it was only a couple of days from hearing Johnstown could be moving to it's official to Greenville. Maybe the fans in Johnstown knew but league wide fans I don;'t think knew near as long. Felt bad for Chiefs fans, he totally embarassed them at the end of that season with that joke roster.
But what sale was actually made? He owns the Road Warriors.
If they are inclined to lose money. The hotel(McClure)already is the teams official hotel but it's not like they don't have the publicity. For them I cant see it making sense.
I agree with you. Like you said earlier, interest and money are two different things. Those were the only two ideas that I could see. The Penguins might look at it, but that is about it, a look, imo. The next thing would be to see if a situation like the Packers could be set up with a huge amount of people owning very little of the team individually. However, the logistics would be terrible. Either set up a board of trustees or else everything goes to a public vote.
I agree with you. Like you said earlier, interest and money are two different things. Those were the only two ideas that I could see. The Penguins might look at it, but that is about it, a look, imo. The next thing would be to see if a situation like the Packers could be set up with a huge amount of people owning very little of the team individually. However, the logistics would be terrible. Either set up a board of trustees or else everything goes to a public vote.
LOL, that was mentioned when Johnstown was moving and the response was..."Why would people buy a share if they aren't attending games?"
LOL, that was mentioned when Johnstown was moving and the response was..."Why would people buy a share if they aren't attending games?"
Well, Shawn Rine says how crucial the Nailers are to the city. Obviously, they would buy shares. I mean he could offer to get the loan to buy the team and sell the shares to the people if he honestly believed that.
What I meant is from a public stand point if I recall correctly it was only a couple of days from hearing Johnstown could be moving to it's official to Greenville. Maybe the fans in Johnstown knew but league wide fans I don;'t think knew near as long. Felt bad for Chiefs fans, he totally embarassed them at the end of that season with that joke roster.
But what sale was actually made? He owns the Road Warriors.
The Chiefs - or at least Smith's share in the team - were for sale early in the 2009-10 season and possibly even the season before (still looking for articles), but the condition was that the team had to stay in Johnstown.
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They have left open the door to deal with any potential ownership group that would keep the team in Johnstown. Smith has repeatedly courted potential investors, with no success.
"I've been trying to get (local investors or owners) since Rick Adams and Jim Webber (were involved in the ownership group)," Smith said.
"It's been well-known that I would sell my interest in the team to local people, not because I'm so interested in getting rid of it but as to the fact that I'm not a local resident. For the long-term stability of the team it should be owned by local ownership.
"When you're an out-of-towner it's more about dollars and cents than if you're a local business. A local person could look at it as a community asset. But no one local has stepped up ever (since Smith has owned the team)."
From what I remember I can't confirm but didn't he release the Chiefs names to someone. I remember there was speculation they would keep the name in Greenville at first but it was quickly killed by the announcement that the Name would stay in Johnstown for history sake. I don't have the time to look for an article but I think I remember that.
From what I remember I can't confirm but didn't he release the Chiefs names to someone. I remember there was speculation they would keep the name in Greenville at first but it was quickly killed by the announcement that the Name would stay in Johnstown for history sake. I don't have the time to look for an article but I think I remember that.
How do you go from saying the 3rd group is UNKNOWN to they are the darkhorse and could win the bidding war with ANYONE?
Apparently his sources are telling him who it is. Either that or he is trying to generate more interest in the team to drive up the cost. Sometimes I think he is a mouthpiece for the Brooks Brothers. Of course, his sources also told him that the Nailers were sold before and relocating to Savannah.
How do you go from saying the 3rd group is UNKNOWN to they are the darkhorse and could win the bidding war with ANYONE?
Such a thing as a need-to-know basis. I think what he's saying is that they're deciding whether they want to go ahead with a bid--if they do, they have the money and clout to get a deal done pretty much on the spot.
