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02-08-2012, 03:13 PM
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me makes like 6M a year it's not like losing $2,500 will send a message to the player
It hurts actually
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02-08-2012, 03:57 PM
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If the Bulldogs are playing Marlies at 3:00 in Toronto on Saturday... he may as well skip that one and join the Habs across town at 7pm. I'm thinking White vs. the Leafs Saturday..

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02-08-2012, 04:24 PM
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If the Bulldogs are playing Marlies at 3:00 in Toronto on Saturday... he may as well skip that one and join the Habs across town at 7pm. I'm thinking White vs. the Leafs Saturday..
Does Hamilton play before then?

I dout they call him up after only one game.

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02-08-2012, 04:27 PM
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Does Hamilton play before then?

I dout they call him up after only one game.
Dogs have a 3 in 3 weekend.... Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

I bet they call up White on Monday after letting him play all three games.

Crash course in conditioning.

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02-09-2012, 03:11 PM
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Markov isn't even practicing with the team yet?

I thought I had heard after Christmas he was skating. Thought he might be pretty close to returning. I'm really disappointed to see he is still taking it easy.

Anyone think he'll be back before march?

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02-09-2012, 03:22 PM
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Markov isn't even practicing with the team yet?

I thought I had heard after Christmas he was skating. Thought he might be pretty close to returning. I'm really disappointed to see he is still taking it easy.

Anyone think he'll be back before march?
Be surprised if he plays at all this year. Maybe never again.

Massive blunder by Gauthier that handcuffed the team from the get go.

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02-09-2012, 03:29 PM
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Be surprised if he plays at all this year. Maybe never again.

Massive blunder by Gauthier that handcuffed the team from the get go.
I wonder how many times this dumb statement will be made??

Gauthier signed Markov after the medical experts (read: Medical ****ing experts, not HFboards dummies) told him he'd be fine and ready to go in November.

I'd hardly call that a blunder at all. Just rotten luck.

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02-09-2012, 03:32 PM
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Dogs have a 3 in 3 weekend.... Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

I bet they call up White on Monday after letting him play all three games.

Crash course in conditioning.
He's been skating for 2 months, probably more about timing and game shape than conditionning.

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02-09-2012, 03:33 PM
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I wonder how many times this dumb statement will be made??

Gauthier signed Markov after the medical experts (read: Medical ****ing experts, not HFboards dummies) told him he'd be fine and ready to go in November.

I'd hardly call that a blunder at all. Just rotten luck.
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I wonder how many times this dumb statement will be made??

Gauthier signed Markov after the medical experts (read: Medical ****ing experts, not HFboards dummies) told him he'd be fine and ready to go in November.

I'd hardly call that a blunder at all. Just rotten luck.
How do you know that's what he was told? Because he said so in an interview?

I don't believe anything that guy says.

Who else is to blame for the product on the ice besides the guy whose job it is to put the team together?

Signing Markov was a massive risk that backfired.

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02-09-2012, 03:45 PM
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How do you know that's what he was told? Because he said so in an interview?

I don't believe anything that guy says.

Who else is to blame for the product on the ice besides the guy whose job it is to put the team together?

Signing Markov was a massive risk that backfired.
Markov was skating in May, not a big stretch he would be ready for the season. Malkin had worse injust in February(ACL and MCL tear).

http://www.tsn2.ca/nhl/teams/story/?...e=nhl-penguins

...and he was ready in October. I think the medical staff is to blame, if there was something not right they should have caught it long before December.

By your definition signing Pronger long term was a big mistake by Phillie since he's missed more games than played on his extension.

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02-09-2012, 03:49 PM
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Markov was skating in May, not a big stretch he would be ready for the season. Malkin had worse injust in February(ACL and MCL tear).

http://www.tsn2.ca/nhl/teams/story/?...e=nhl-penguins

...and he was ready in October. I think the medical staff is to blame, if there was something not right they should have caught it long before December.
I have no idea how you come to this conclusion not knowing exactly what was said between both parties. You don't blame Gauthier but you blame Dr. James Andrews? Sounds reasonable.

In the end, the result is what matters and right now we are one of the worst teams in the league. That is on PG. Bottom line.

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I wonder how many times this dumb statement will be made??

Gauthier signed Markov after the medical experts (read: Medical ****ing experts, not HFboards dummies) told him he'd be fine and ready to go in November.

I'd hardly call that a blunder at all. Just rotten luck.
This.

If PG had gone against what medical professions had said, he would have been absolutely crucified and fired.

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How do you know that's what he was told? Because he said so in an interview?
How do you know it wasn't?

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02-09-2012, 03:57 PM
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How do you know it wasn't?
I don't. What I know is the team is terrible and that's on him.

That's all that counts.

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02-09-2012, 04:07 PM
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How do you know that's what he was told? Because he said so in an interview?
That's not the point. The point is that thinking otherwise is highly non-parsimonious.

If the medical staff told Gauthier that Markov had little chance to ever play again, it makes little sense for Gauthier to sign him for 3 years. It's not like he (and his staff) didn't understood the risk behind the decision. The only logical reason why he would sign him for three years was because he got information saying he stand a very good chance of coming back.

It is way more parsimonious to believe that the medical staff got it wrong (because that happen all the time) than to believe that Gauthier is so stupid he didn't listen to his medical staff. The first scenario is common. The second is hard to explain. We would need to explain how someone so stupid could even end up a GM for a NHL club, let alone get any kind of management job, without this very high stupidity being exposed early in his career. It just doesn't happen in real life. Or, at least, it is much much much much rarer than medical staff being wrong.

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02-09-2012, 04:19 PM
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Martin on Anti-Chambre: "We really truly did expect Markov back by mid-october, he was progressing well"

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Martin on Anti-Chambre: "We really truly did expect Markov back by mid-october, he was progressing well"
I think it's possible he'll be back by October too. Of 2012 - 2013 season. But I wouldn't bank on it.

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I think it's possible he'll be back by October too. Of 2012 - 2013 season. But I wouldn't bank on it.
lol.

I think he won't be back.

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02-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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For the record, I think he'll be back close to the trade deadline, he'll play OK for the rest of the season considering he's been inactive for so long, and then he'll be traded during the offseason for a younger guy on D and maybe picks.

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02-09-2012, 05:31 PM
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I have no idea how you come to this conclusion not knowing exactly what was said between both parties. You don't blame Gauthier but you blame Dr. James Andrews? Sounds reasonable.

In the end, the result is what matters and right now we are one of the worst teams in the league. That is on PG. Bottom line.
So it's PG's fault that Gainey spent 30 mil plus McDonagh on Gomez Gionta Cammy Spacek and Hamrlik?

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So it's PG's fault that Gainey spent 30 mil plus McDonagh on Gomez Gionta Cammy Spacek and Hamrlik?
According to the made-up lore, Gauthier was behind these decisions as Gainey right-hand man.

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I wonder how many times this dumb statement will be made??

Gauthier signed Markov after the medical experts (read: Medical ****ing experts, not HFboards dummies) told him he'd be fine and ready to go in November.

I'd hardly call that a blunder at all. Just rotten luck.
If what you said is true, why haven't the medical staff been fired? They have literally cost the team millions of dollars if it was indeed their fault.

Or, the reverse is true, and it was just a bad signing based on bad decisons by our GM.

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According to the made-up lore, Gauthier was behind these decisions as Gainey right-hand man.
He's definately a contributing factor since Gainey said the reports he got on Niinimaa was that he was a top 4 defenseman.

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