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01-19-2012, 09:39 PM
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I'm glad we loosened up on the "no mentioning undrafteds" rule last time so that people didn't have to XXX out every name in the bio thread. Still think that references that specifically praise undrafteds in the bio thread should be XXXed out, but general mentions should be fine.

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01-19-2012, 09:44 PM
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I maintain that bios should only be allowed in the bio thread, they have gotten so long that they really clutter the draft thread.

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01-19-2012, 09:46 PM
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I maintain that bios should only be allowed in the bio thread, they have gotten so long that they really clutter the draft thread.
There is no issue with this I can just delete it in this thread. EB just deserved to make sure everyone saw this work in my opinion.

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01-19-2012, 09:50 PM
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I maintain that bios should only be allowed in the bio thread, they have gotten so long that they really clutter the draft thread.
I don't feel strongly either way, but I would prefer it if GMs only posted mini-bios in this thread (maybe paragraph or three with some basic stats that tell the most important stuff) and saved the novel-lengthed stuff for the bio thread. I would like to think that everyone is at least skimming the bio thread anyway.

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01-19-2012, 09:53 PM
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I don't feel strongly either way, but I would prefer it if GMs only posted mini-bios in this thread (maybe paragraph or three with some basic stats that tell the most important stuff) and saved the novel-lengthed stuff for the bio thread. I would like to think that everyone is at least skimming the bio thread anyway.
I like that idea. Key text, no undrafted names and a link to the full bio.

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01-19-2012, 10:20 PM
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Same here, it's taken me forever to get on. I have to talk to VCL before our pick though.

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01-19-2012, 10:25 PM
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Same here, it's taken me forever to get on. I have to talk to VCL before our pick though.
I succeeded when I clicked on the ''remember me'' case.

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I like that idea. Key text, no undrafted names and a link to the full bio.
Agreed. One paragraph or a short list of his major accomplishments, no undrafted names, and a link to the full bio. That's what I'm going with out of respect for the other GMs. As one ATDer already said this is the draft thread, not the bio thread.

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01-19-2012, 11:31 PM
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I like that idea. Key text, no undrafted names and a link to the full bio.
I agree. And honestly, the longer a bio is, the less likely I am to read any of it.

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I agree. And honestly, the longer a bio is, the less likely I am to read any of it.
Biographies aren't made to be forced down people's throat, but are made to be read by people who are genuinely interested by a certain player. If you're not into long biography, LoH is a good start to summarize someones career pretty quick.

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01-19-2012, 11:37 PM
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I agree. And honestly, the longer a bio is, the less likely I am to read any of it.
I didn't expect anyone to read all my bios in detail when I drafted my players. That's why I specifically mentioned when I made a particularly useful bio last year, which I think I did three times.

Long bios are more useful when it comes time to assassinate teams and vote on standings than they are when you first draft a player, IMO. They are also useful for playoff arguments (I definitely refer to my own bios in the playoffs).

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01-19-2012, 11:43 PM
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I didn't expect anyone to read all my bios in detail when I drafted my players. That's why I specifically mentioned when I made a particularly useful bio last year, which I think I did three times.

Long bios are more useful when it comes time to assassinate teams and vote on standings than they are when you first draft a player, IMO. They are also useful for playoff arguments (I definitely refer to my own bios in the playoffs).
Yeah, for sure. I meant that just in the draft thread, I almost never read the monster bios that get posted.

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01-19-2012, 11:46 PM
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Yeah, for sure. I meant that just in the draft thread, I almost never read the monster bios that get posted.
Oh, I agree. I think I'm actually less likely to read a bio in detail if it appears in the draft thread too, because when I actually am in the mood to read bios and go to the bio thread, I'll see the bio from the draft thread and think I already read it when instead I barely skimmed it to get back to the draft talk.

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try to keep bios to a 100 words or less?

some of us would rather see some info on the player then a pic

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im going to leave a list

who can take it....

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01-20-2012, 12:04 AM
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I'll do what I did last year, post a little bit with the pick, then post a link to the completed bio when I finish it. I definitely use bios the most when assassinating/voting, and most of all arguing in the playoffs.

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01-20-2012, 12:30 AM
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some of us would rather see some info on the player then a pic
I like the pictures, especially non-generic ones.

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01-20-2012, 12:55 AM
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try to keep bios to a 100 words or less?

some of us would rather see some info on the player then a pic
Only in the draft thread. In the bio thread, knock yourself out.

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01-20-2012, 12:57 AM
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somewhere somehow , deep in the darkest side of saskatoon , seventieslord is already regretting his decision
nope, not at all. I'll let you know when that happens, don't worry.

and I am in Regina, not Saskatoon.

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Yet another reason everyone should have voted for my team last year. My first two picks were forwards. Break the evil runs on defensemen.
three of my top-4 picks were forwards!

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Beliveau is a lot like Harvey where his value in the ATD is higher because he is so easy to build around. Big fan here. Everything you could want in a player.
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I didn't expect anyone to read all my bios in detail when I drafted my players. That's why I specifically mentioned when I made a particularly useful bio last year, which I think I did three times.

Long bios are more useful when it comes time to assassinate teams and vote on standings than they are when you first draft a player, IMO. They are also useful for playoff arguments (I definitely refer to my own bios in the playoffs).
damn right.

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try to keep bios to a 100 words or less?

some of us would rather see some info on the player then a pic
we've been through this.

how about you do your thing (which no one has ever tried to stop you from doing), and let the people who research books, newspapers and websites post the fruits of their labours. ok?

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01-20-2012, 01:43 AM
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Oh man am I having fun with this Gordie Howe bio. So much good stuff. Unforunately, the search feature doesn't go back far at all.

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01-20-2012, 09:34 AM
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im going to leave a list

who can take it....
you can leave it to me

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01-20-2012, 10:33 AM
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and I am in Regina, not Saskatoon.
oh yeah , sorry about that

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01-20-2012, 12:11 PM
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The Winnipeg Saints select the very saintly D Eddie Shore



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01-20-2012, 12:38 PM
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Nice choice with Shore...

I'd like to suggest that people include the pick number when announcing their selection. It's not really an issue now, but I think it will really come in handy later when people are trying to go back and sift through all the thread pages trying to find a particular pick bio or comment on a pick.

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