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01-26-2012, 12:27 PM
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Burke spoke to a group of business students in Toronto about his relationships with other GMs. He is helping the author promote a book about the life of a NHL GM.



http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...medium=twitter

Funny stuff.

The Ozo trade was in 2006. One of the very few times in the post 2004-05 lockout world Sather took on term. Ozo missed most of 06-07 with the knee injury. Counted against the cap. The Rangers weren't near or at the upper limit to put him on long term IR.
I would have paid to sit in on that class for the day. Sounds awesome.

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Frolik is interesting. I'd inquire about him if I was Sather.
Last name sounds too much like Frolov... Pass!

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Lol some Habs fans think Moen could catch a first. I love Moen, but *** lol.

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Montreal trades?

I am a Montreal fan and it looks like we will be missing the playoffs this year unless we go on an amazing win streak in the next 3 weeks. I think the Rangers will be 1 of the teams that have a chance to win the Cup so I guess that would make you guys buyers at the trade deadline. Montreal have a few ufa's that might interest you and some might be a good fit for your team,here they are........

Travis Moen = He is 29 ,6'2/ 215 UFA winger with a 1.5 cap hit.He plays with grit and will drop the gloves when needed. He is great on the PK and in a shut down role, he is on pace to score around 15 goals and has won the Cup before with the Ducks

Andrei Kostitsyn = He is 26, 6'1/ 215 ufa winger with a 3.25 cap hit.He has avg over 20 goals a year the last 4 years with the HABS and is on pace for another 20 goals this season.

Mathieu Darche = He is 35 ,6'1/ 220 ufa winger with a .700 cap hit. He would be a depth player that could fill in on the power play if needed.

Mike Blunden = He is 25 ,6'4 /220, ufa centre/winger with a .600 cap hit.He plays with grit and will fight if needed and would fit well on a teams fourth line.

Hal Gill = He is 36, 6'7 /245 ufa defenseman with a 2.25 cap hit. Gill is great on the PK and would be good as a teams 5/6 defenseman. He brings leadership and has won a Cup.

Chris Campoli = He is 27, 6 /200 ufa defenseman with a 1.75 cap hit. Campoli is a puck moving dman thatcan play on the power play and has scored over 30 points twice in the NHL.

Kaberle = He is 33, 6'1 215 defensemen and has 2 years left on his deal at 4.25Kaberle has score 13 points in 20 games since coming to Montreal last month, a pace of 53 points over a full year.He could help a team on the power play and won a cup last year with Boston.

Which players would fit best on your team? and what would you be offering for them. thanks and good luck in the playoffs.

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01-26-2012, 12:33 PM
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Moen, AK, or Darche. Prefer AK.

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Moen and AK for sure

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Besides the ridiculous length of his contract, the fact you (like most) are falling in love with his goal totals which are trending downward, and the issue that hes not a terribly effective or efficient player outside of those goals - yea, definitely no downside.

Then theres the work ethic and off the ice issues. But yea, no downside....other than all those things.
His goal totals were not trending downward, they were were they normally would be aside from his abnormal 46 goal season.

Last season he had 36, the year before he had 33.

That's not trending down at all.

He has/had a reputation of being a partier and he still posted those numbers.

To me, this season can be written off. He was gearing up for a career with a team he signed a discounted contract with and they out and out screwed him over.

Any normal human being would not be the same and some folks take longer to get back to normal than others.

So far I have heard nothing about his work ethic in Columbus, nor about his partying ways. Maybe the trade opened his eyes to some less than stellar behavior in Philly.

It's all moot anyway since the cost to acquire would be prohibitive.

I'm not scared of a manageable cap hit regardless of length.

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He is a big partier and you guys want him in NYC?

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He is a big partier and you guys want him in NYC?
There's nowhere to party in Montreal?

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Huh? I'm talking about Jeff Carter. Putting him in NYC would be deadly for his health. He'd probably OD on a keg-stand.

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Huh? I'm talking about Jeff Carter. Putting him in NYC would be deadly for his health. He'd probably OD on a keg-stand.
Ha. I thought you were referencing the posts above about Kostitsyn. My fault.

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I am a Montreal fan and it looks like we will be missing the playoffs this year unless we go on an amazing win streak in the next 3 weeks. I think the Rangers will be 1 of the teams that have a chance to win the Cup so I guess that would make you guys buyers at the trade deadline. Montreal have a few ufa's that might interest you and some might be a good fit for your team,here they are........

Travis Moen = He is 29 ,6'2/ 215 UFA winger with a 1.5 cap hit.He plays with grit and will drop the gloves when needed. He is great on the PK and in a shut down role, he is on pace to score around 15 goals and has won the Cup before with the Ducks

Andrei Kostitsyn = He is 26, 6'1/ 215 ufa winger with a 3.25 cap hit.He has avg over 20 goals a year the last 4 years with the HABS and is on pace for another 20 goals this season.

Mathieu Darche = He is 35 ,6'1/ 220 ufa winger with a .700 cap hit. He would be a depth player that could fill in on the power play if needed.

Mike Blunden = He is 25 ,6'4 /220, ufa centre/winger with a .600 cap hit.He plays with grit and will fight if needed and would fit well on a teams fourth line.

Hal Gill = He is 36, 6'7 /245 ufa defenseman with a 2.25 cap hit. Gill is great on the PK and would be good as a teams 5/6 defenseman. He brings leadership and has won a Cup.

Chris Campoli = He is 27, 6 /200 ufa defenseman with a 1.75 cap hit. Campoli is a puck moving dman thatcan play on the power play and has scored over 30 points twice in the NHL.

Kaberle = He is 33, 6'1 215 defensemen and has 2 years left on his deal at 4.25Kaberle has score 13 points in 20 games since coming to Montreal last month, a pace of 53 points over a full year.He could help a team on the power play and won a cup last year with Boston.

Which players would fit best on your team? and what would you be offering for them. thanks and good luck in the playoffs.
Not sure the Habs are going to make good trading partners with the Rangers after the Gomez/McDonagh debacle...

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im sure u can party anywhere in the country making over 5m per

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There was no way that Carter and Nash were going to mesh. They are both shooters. The situation for Carter in Columbus could not have been worse.

Locker room is solid so he would conform.
I'm not sure what makes the second statement true if we assume the first one is as well.

But...fine. Whatever you say.

Let's also forget what it would cost to even close the deal, because it will never happen anyway.

I do not want to get into all the Richards rumors. It's got to the point where it's not a fair discussion in any way, but one has to acknowledge that the rumors about this guy are numerous and toxic.

I don't want this guy anywhere near the New York Rangers other than being an opponent on the other side of the face off circle.

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01-26-2012, 02:04 PM
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There's nowhere to party in Montreal?
I had my bachelor party there last Labor Day weekend.

From what I can remember, there certainly are.

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Moen and AK for sure
AK is a scoring LW but would he fit the Rangers style?

If all else fails he's a descent ball back. I think he's a UFA?

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I see that being an alleged party person like Carter is far more problematic than being a member of the mob like Kostitsyn.

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I see that being an alleged party person like Carter is far more problematic than being a member of the mob like Kostitsyn.
Well, if we got AK46, he wouldn't be the first.



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Yes, Jeff Carter.

The guy that averages 30 goals a year.

The guy that signed a sweet heart of a contract providing the team with a cap hit of just 5.3 million per season.

The guy that got royally screwed by the flyers when they traded him before his NTC kicked in and sent to Columbus. A horrible team and a horrible fit. There was no way that Carter and Nash were going to mesh. They are both shooters. The situation for Carter in Columbus could not have been worse.

The we take into consideration the serious "F&#k You" motivating factor that he would have should he end up in a Rangers sweater.

I don't see the downside.

Locker room is solid so he would conform.

Team structure is solid so it's totally not like Columbus.

Future is as bright here as it is anywhere so the continued motivation of winning a Cup will be there.

I personally do not see the downside.
totally agree. great post.

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I'm not sure what makes the second statement true if we assume the first one is as well.

But...fine. Whatever you say.

Let's also forget what it would cost to even close the deal, because it will never happen anyway.

I do not want to get into all the Richards rumors. It's got to the point where it's not a fair discussion in any way, but one has to acknowledge that the rumors about this guy are numerous and toxic.

I don't want this guy anywhere near the New York Rangers other than being an opponent on the other side of the face off circle.
If you do enough digging you will find dirt on a lot of guys . I have read some stuff that has been posted on Richards , Dubi , Prust , DZ and as of late Evander Kane . I honestly don't believe everything I have read as most of it is likely from a bunch of teenage girls/celeb chasers and not very wise ones at that . Mind you...I know that these young guys are also surrounded and have women throwing themselves at them . It certainly cannot be easy living in the public eye today...you better have an understanding partner and hopefully a trust between the two that is unbreakable , because it seems like everybody always believes the worse stuff first and foremost versus the truth .

Anyways ...who knows , but a roster with Carter on it might just get us 2-3 Cups...if we can get by the Penguins next season with the core we have now and Hank in his PRIME !

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There's nowhere to party in Montreal?
Haha MTL is nuts.
In some ways its probably crazier that NYC.
Not all ways, but some...Crazy 18 year chicks from all around the country who show up to MTL just to get drunk...

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If you do enough digging you will find dirt on a lot of guys . I have read some stuff that has been posted on Richards , Dubi , Prust , DZ and as of late Evander Kane . I honestly don't believe everything I have read as most of it is likely from a bunch of teenage girls/celeb chasers and not very wise ones at that . Mind you...I know that these young guys are also surrounded and have women throwing themselves at them . It certainly cannot be easy living in the public eye today...you better have an understanding partner and hopefully a trust between the two that is unbreakable , because it seems like everybody always believes the worse stuff first and foremost versus the truth .

Anyways ...who knows , but a roster with Carter on it might just get us 2-3 Cups...if we can get by the Penguins next season with the core we have now and Hank in his PRIME !
The rumors that surround the partying don't concern me. Mostly because if something egregious had happened it likely would have come to light. I'm basically of the mind that if you show up on time, ready to do your job, what you do with your free time is nobody's damn business. As long as nobody gets hurt. Guy wants to chase a few puck bunnies, have at it. Hell, I would.

There was a poster on another board who called the events in Philly last summer almost down to the last detail...way before they happened. Details Including which team Richards was going to and the players involved were laid out well in advance. The only possible conclusion was that he had an extremely good source inside the Flyers.

It was amazing reading.

There were some details that poster shared and some he refused to share. Bottome line, Philly had no choice. Partying was a distant, secondary issue. They did what they had to do. Now, less than a year later CBUS is basically doing the same thing.

Things happen for a reason. Carter can get his 3rd chance with somebody else AFAIC.

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carter's contract doesn't scare me nearly as much now that i realize he doesn't have a NMC but another thing to consider is the unknown of the new cba (and the one after that before his deal is up lol).

what if you can't bury guys in the ahl anymore?

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The rumors that surround the partying don't concern me. Mostly because if something egregious had happened it likely would have come to light. I'm basically of the mind that if you show up on time, ready to do your job, what you do with your free time is nobody's damn business. As long as nobody gets hurt. Guy wants to chase a few puck bunnies, have at it. Hell, I would.

There was a poster on another board who called the events in Philly last summer almost down to the last detail...way before they happened. Details Including which team Richards was going to and the players involved were laid out well in advance. The only possible conclusion was that he had an extremely good source inside the Flyers.

It was amazing reading.

There were some details that poster shared and some he refused to share. Bottome line, Philly had no choice. Partying was a distant, secondary issue. They did what they had to do. Now, less than a year later CBUS is basically doing the same thing.

Things happen for a reason. Carter can get his 3rd chance with somebody else AFAIC.
Finally, someone who gets it. I cannot wait to bump this thread a year or two from now when the next team Carter goes to wants to trade him to us for Redden. It's astounding how many posters here are ready to make such a drastic and risky move as if our window of opportunity didn't JUST open. To throw all our eggs in the desperate Jeff Carter basket is completely asinine and absurd. We have the luxury of being patient from now until a year or two from now. If we still haven't found a solution for the LW position by then, then maybe you take a risk. But now? We've got far too much to lose. I'd much rather wait and see and even strike out on Parise and be forced to explore other options when the time comes than jump into a gigantic question mark when there's absolutely no realistic pressure to do so.

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totally agree. great post.
Fantasy, pure fantasy.

You want to give up assets to assume Jeff Carter's contract that runs through 2022.

There is it, in black and white - and its INSANE.

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