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01-19-2012, 11:47 PM
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A faster Tim Connolly. His skill level is out of this world, it's just Kessel/Lupul are always one or two strides ahead.

Obviously the IDEAL fit would be a Getzlaf/Staal.

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01-20-2012, 12:07 AM
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A faster Tim Connolly. His skill level is out of this world, it's just Kessel/Lupul are always one or two strides ahead.

Obviously the IDEAL fit would be a Getzlaf/Staal.
Love this post. Intelligent.

So yeah I also might add that if Connolly plays with Kadri and Lupul for example.. then he is two strides behind of them also. Or with Lombardi and Brown... or with Kessel and Kulemin.. or with Grabovski and Kulemin.. or with Lupul and Steckel. Get what I mean?

Connolly has to go.

Getzy getz it all done.

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01-20-2012, 01:27 AM
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Bergeron
Krejci (too much?)
vermette
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filpulla
anisimov

variety of values and styles, could see most of them working with kessel and Lupul
Haha ya. Last two are hilarious. Vermette I lol'd too. Beregon I cannot see fitting well either.

Getz would be the best choice IMO.

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01-20-2012, 01:29 AM
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Oh also, surprised no one has mentioned Spezza. Unreal hands, playmaker. All kessel needs to get the puck to him. Scratch what I said before, Spezza is who I would want.

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01-20-2012, 03:06 AM
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Haha ya. Last two are hilarious. Vermette I lol'd too. Beregon I cannot see fitting well either.

Getz would be the best choice IMO.
How the **** would Getz be a better choice than arguably the best 2 way center in the game?

What is wrong with Lupul and Kessel? Week defense. Getz doesn't have a huge amount of compete or great defensive game. It's not offense offense offense, Bergeron would be 10 folds better on that line than Getz.

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01-20-2012, 03:17 AM
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I wanna see what Grabo can do with both or one...play them for 5 games in a row and see what happens

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01-20-2012, 03:24 AM
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Stastny only person that really comes to mind. He might be the odd man out in Colorado with Duchene and O'Reilly going RFA.

Other then that its just a carousel of 2nd line centers.

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01-20-2012, 04:39 AM
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Wish Colborne had more grind and bang to his game. He's not really the type of player that uses his size to his advantage, at least from what I seen. A big rugged skilled Centre would be the best for the top line I think. Someone in the Staal/Staal/Getzlaf mold.

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01-20-2012, 05:29 AM
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Wish Colborne had more grind and bang to his game. He's not really the type of player that uses his size to his advantage, at least from what I seen. A big rugged skilled Centre would be the best for the top line I think. Someone in the Staal/Staal/Getzlaf mold.

I don't know which game you saw but every game I've seen Colbourne he was throwing hits, in fact he has 20 hits in 9 games this year

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01-20-2012, 06:48 AM
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I don't know which game you saw but every game I've seen Colbourne he was throwing hits, in fact he has 20 hits in 9 games this year
If were using stats as a base, you measure that average over a full season, he doesn't even crack the top 50 in hits. Probably in the 60 or later range. That isn't really a great stat. I know there's more to it than hits, I just never really seen the sandpaper to his game.


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01-20-2012, 09:36 AM
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I wanna see what Grabo can do with both or one...play them for 5 games in a row and see what happens
I second that!!!! I really would like to see what would happen too! Not too sure why Wilson doesn't try that!! Bozak on the second line with Kulie and Mac seems like a good fit too.

I really like Grabo's game and think he is a very undervalued player and can be very effective. He seems to get fired up when the team gets stagnant (kinda like Lupul) which is exactly what Kessel needs.

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If were using stats as a base, you measure that average over a full season, he doesn't even crack the top 50 in hits. Probably in the 60 or later range. That isn't really a great stat. I know there's more to it than hits, I just never really seen the sandpaper to his game.
To be fair thats 182 hits, that would of been good for 7th in the NHL last year among centers.

Ruutu, Boyle, Backes, Powe, Lappiere, Getzlaf, Colborne, Rupp

http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...tssPlayerStats

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I second that!!!! I really would like to see what would happen too! Not too sure why Wilson doesn't try that!! Bozak on the second line with Kulie and Mac seems like a good fit too.

I really like Grabo's game and think he is a very undervalued player and can be very effective. He seems to get fired up when the team gets stagnant (kinda like Lupul) which is exactly what Kessel needs.
Something that could be interesting...

Lupul - Grabo - Kessel
Kulie - TC - Mac A
Kadri - Bozak - Armstrong

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Wish Colborne had more grind and bang to his game. He's not really the type of player that uses his size to his advantage, at least from what I seen. A big rugged skilled Centre would be the best for the top line I think. Someone in the Staal/Staal/Getzlaf mold.
I don't know if I'd consider Staal or Getzlaf to have a rugged grinding type game. They do hit more than say a Connolly but the biggest advantage their size gives them is using it to protect the puck and win puck battles. Colborne has been using his size a lot more this year which is good news.

Colborne could easily be slotted in the #1 spot in a couple years, see him a 2a/2b 50-70pt C in the future. He has potential to be a really nice fit, Burke acquired him for a reason

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01-20-2012, 05:53 PM
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Getzlaf. that's why he's worth selling the farm for - the three of them would be a perfect match.

any legitimate 1C would help but he covers their weaknesses best. it would be one of the five best lines in the NHL.

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01-20-2012, 06:11 PM
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How the **** would Getz be a better choice than arguably the best 2 way center in the game?

What is wrong with Lupul and Kessel? Week defense. Getz doesn't have a huge amount of compete or great defensive game. It's not offense offense offense, Bergeron would be 10 folds better on that line than Getz.
Yes he does. Watch some Ducks games and you can see for yourself. If you have watched then I will say we disagree on what Getzlaf brings to the table.

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If we can pick up Getzlaf that would be sick. If not I have been saying this alot in my posts:

Friggen put Grabovski between them! I don't know why Wilson won't do this. Grabs has been great so far, and he would be better than Connoly and Bozak.
I am with you on that one for sure. Been thinking Wilson should do that for a long time.

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Yes he does. Watch some Ducks games and you can see for yourself. If you have watched then I will say we disagree on what Getzlaf brings to the table.
Guess we disagree. I'd prefer a two way force between them.

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Am I the only one who finds the majority of these suggestions as the wrong choices?

The only legitimate one I have seen here is Statsny. Kessel and Lupul don't need a defensive center, they need one that can dish the puck and up their games offensively. No one on the Leafs roster can lift their games above what the two of them do themselves, finding an impact playmaker is the best option to put between them.

The best options (unrealistic or not) would be:
H Sedin, P Datsyuk, Malkin, Spezza (That one hurt to add), Tavares, Kopitar, Backstrom, or Thornton.

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Backes? Staal? Bergeron?

They need a player who excels at defence and boardplay but is competent offensively as well. Faceoffs would be nice too.

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Am I the only one who finds the majority of these suggestions as the wrong choices?

The only legitimate one I have seen here is Statsny. Kessel and Lupul don't need a defensive center, they need one that can dish the puck and up their games offensively. No one on the Leafs roster can lift their games above what the two of them do themselves, finding an impact playmaker is the best option to put between them.

The best options (unrealistic or not) would be:
H Sedin, P Datsyuk, Malkin, Spezza (That one hurt to add), Tavares, Kopitar, Backstrom, or Thornton.
Dish the puck? Lupul and Kessel are already top 10 in scoring. I'd love if they won a scoring race, but we have to be gearing up for the playoffs. That line would get ***** against the top or even second lines of other team. They are weak on the boards and weak defensively. Bergeron can easily get them the puck, he's a beast in the dot, a constant selke finalist, and a great battler down low. Not to mention he is also a leader. Offense only takes you so far, and that line has to not be a liability every time the opposing team steps into their zone.

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You want a center that can win face offs, generate takeaway's from opposing players, does not give away the puck often, and can contribute offensively. Based on these attributes, Burke should seriously consider these players.

Here are some stats from this year for centers that could be worth pursuing, if there was a possibility for a trade. Some of these players are very unlikely to be traded.

Ryan O'Rielly
53.8% Face Off Percentage
62 Takeaways
18 Giveaways
35 Points

O'Rielly does not hit as much, but he can provide both defensive support, win face offs, and can contribute on the top line.

Paul Stastny
55.6% Face Off Percentage
33 Takeaways
7 Giveaways
27 Points

Stastny is currently not producing to the levels he has in the past, but he would still help the top line both in face off and defense.

Logan Couture
51.8% Face Off Percentage
41 Takeaways
19 Giveaways
32 Points

Highly unlikely for the Sharks to trade Couture, but he would be a welcome addition if available.

Brooks Laich
51.2% Face Off Percentage
32 Takeaways
14 Giveaways
23 Points

Another player most likely not going to be traded, but this is a player Burke should consider targeting.

Travis Zajac would have been another center that Burke should consider, but with the injury its hard to see how he will come back from it.

Players that would be at the top of any list is Jonathan Toews, and Ryan Kesler. We all know these two players would never be traded. Jason Spezza would be decent, except he gives away the puck way to much with second most of 57 giveaways in the entire league. Jason Spezza may not help Kessel or Lupul to keep the puck in the opposing zone.

Eric Staal is average on the face offs, but does provide other intangibles with his physical play. If there was a way to get any of those centers listed, we could have a decent first line to compete in the playoffs. The question now is, how much does Burke break the bank for these players? Another question: Are any of these players available for the right price? We will have to see.

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