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Wager: When is Jagr going to explode in Philly?

View Poll Results: When will Jagr implode?
5 games 1 6.67%
10 games 0 0%
15 games 2 13.33%
20 games 2 13.33%
25 games 0 0%
30 games 1 6.67%
35 games 0 0%
playoffs 4 26.67%
off-season 2 13.33%
already has 4 26.67%
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01-20-2012, 01:10 PM
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So he doesn't drink alcohol because it knocks 10 years off of your playing career, yet he's sipping Diet Coke while playing hockey?

I just find it odd how people justify things in their brains.

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01-20-2012, 01:22 PM
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Doesnt seem like hes going to freak out, and I don't even know why the thread is titles like that. Though some of the things he said were funny, but the whole bit about Stars naming their lines, and him thinking money dictates where you play is pretty odd. He seems like he wouldn't fit in here.

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01-20-2012, 01:42 PM
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Also, it should be noted that the journalist used to be a long time Pens fan and is still a Steelers fan. My guess is he is from Pittsburgh. That said, who knows what his angle was. He kept asking the same question over and over again.

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01-20-2012, 03:09 PM
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I guess the biggest question here is who cares? Why is there a thread in the Penguins boards for a Philly player?

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01-20-2012, 03:31 PM
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That said, who knows what his angle was. He kept asking the same question over and over again.
Yeah, I definitely got the impression that he was trying to make Jagr look bad. Not a good vibe to emit if you're a journalist.

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01-20-2012, 03:31 PM
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More Jagr trollolololololing with his Pittsburgh comments.

Yes, Jaromir, you would be playing on the 4th line here, behind Neal, Dupuis, and Kennedy.

I too agree with those who couldn't care less. But for the sake of discussion since he gave this bizarre interview / hockey theory, why not:

IMO, your last point is the only one that matters. We can figure that out but apparently he can't. The guy really is an idiot... not very bright at all. He assumed that because we didn't offer him $3M, that there was no way he'd play on the top lines. I mean how ****ing stupid can you be?

My message to Jagr (and Svoboda who apparently is equally dumb): LOOK at the roster, dumbasses! Other than James Neal, you would have had have NO competition in terms of scoring wingers. None.

GMs don't place guys on lines first of all, coaches do. Second of all, coaches don't line guys up based on salary. They line them up based on complimentary skills and chemistry. If you had great Chemistry with Geno, you probably would've played on his line all year, even if Neal did too!

Apparently he can count salary caps but he can't count to 2: the number of wingers on every center's line, and the number of scoring lines per team.

That aside I don't deny we low-balled the guy but this interview is the perfect example why that was a good idea. Jagr is constantly one bad locker room meeting, one argument, one annoying interview away from "not being happy here". You going to tie up $3M in a guy like that?? **** no. Glad he went to Philly, whether he implodes or not.

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01-20-2012, 03:40 PM
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Jags will never implode in Philly. Why? Because he's not the man in Philly and never will be. He's a great wing man, always has been and still is.

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01-20-2012, 03:47 PM
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I think it's sad that there are so many Jagr haters here.

I think it's sad that anyone who offers up constructive criticisms / reasons why Jagr is a mental case (as evidenced by this interview and others with prior teams, and some of his parting behavior here), is labeled a "hater".

WTF does that mean, exactly anyway? Another gem brought to us from hip-hop "culture". Does it mean something more than simply disliking a way a person behaves, and describing that? Are famous people who are "hated" supposed to be above criticism for their stupid actions / words?

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01-20-2012, 03:55 PM
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I think it's sad that anyone who offers up constructive criticisms / reasons why Jagr is a mental case (as evidenced by this interview and others with prior teams, and some of his parting behavior here), is labeled a "hater".

WTF does that mean, exactly anyway? Another gem brought to us from hip-hop "culture". Does it mean something more than simply disliking a way a person behaves, and describing that? Are famous people who are "hated" supposed to be above criticism for their stupid actions / words?
Tell us how you really feel!

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01-20-2012, 04:04 PM
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He comes off as an idiot. I really don't care anymore. Neal/Malkin/Jagr would have **** on the league, but hey, it's his life.

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01-20-2012, 04:09 PM
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I guess the biggest question here is who cares? Why is there a thread in the Penguins boards for a Philly player?
Because some people, are homer-ishly stuck in the past I'm afraid.

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01-20-2012, 04:44 PM
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Tell us how you really feel!
I might get kicked from the board. However I did that the other day and it worked out OK:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=909

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01-20-2012, 04:51 PM
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Like quite a few others, I don't care. And truthfully I'm glad he didn't sign here. As much as I'd love to see Jagr in a Pens jersey again, lord knows he would've been the first whipping boy for some people.

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01-20-2012, 05:03 PM
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I think it's sad that anyone who offers up constructive criticisms / reasons why Jagr is a mental case (as evidenced by this interview and others with prior teams, and some of his parting behavior here), is labeled a "hater".

WTF does that mean, exactly anyway? Another gem brought to us from hip-hop "culture". Does it mean something more than simply disliking a way a person behaves, and describing that? Are famous people who are "hated" supposed to be above criticism for their stupid actions / words?
Always wondered that myself.

Kids these days...

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01-20-2012, 07:19 PM
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I think it's sad that anyone who offers up constructive criticisms / reasons why Jagr is a mental case (as evidenced by this interview and others with prior teams, and some of his parting behavior here), is labeled a "hater".

WTF does that mean, exactly anyway? Another gem brought to us from hip-hop "culture". Does it mean something more than simply disliking a way a person behaves, and describing that? Are famous people who are "hated" supposed to be above criticism for their stupid actions / words?
It's not about being unable to criticize him, it's about these type of thoughts against him:

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Nobody cares. Jagr isn't a Penguin anymore
You can add when he was traded (although that was over a decade ago), but his interviews when he signed with the Flyers should't overwrite his greatness as a Penguin. Even with him signing with the Flyers, helping us win 2 Cups and then being the best forward in the league makes that other stuff irrelevant to me.

That said, I think as time goes on Jagr will be remembered as the great player he was and is.

And to put it a different way, I think it's sad that that Jagr has lost his love not only as a player but also as a Penguin to so many people.

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01-20-2012, 08:59 PM
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It would be poetic justice if we stepped in at the last moment on July 1 and stole him away from Philly. After all, we all know it COULD happen if we wanted it.

But hopefully, we have our wingers in place by then.

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01-20-2012, 09:40 PM
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It would be poetic justice if we stepped in at the last moment on July 1 and stole him away from Philly. After all, we all know it COULD happen if we wanted it.

But hopefully, we have our wingers in place by then.
There are lots of players like him today, he no longer really is anything all that special. He is about the equivilent of a Kunitz, they have very similar stats. Which is no bad thing, believe me. But honestly I would not want the bagage at this point for, let's be honest, what is currently a completely average secondary player. Like I said before, Steve Sullivan, the whipping boy of this year, is exactly the dozen points below Jagr I called during the signings.


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01-21-2012, 12:49 AM
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Awful interview, but not from Jagr's perspective. That writer was fishing for controversy. Pathetic.

Bitter and disappointed journalism major reporting in.

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01-21-2012, 02:07 AM
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It would be poetic justice if we stepped in at the last moment on July 1 and stole him away from Philly. After all, we all know it COULD happen if we wanted it.
But hopefully, we have our wingers in place by then.
I'd rather use any potential "Jagr money" on Neal instead.

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01-21-2012, 10:14 AM
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There are lots of players like him today, he no longer really is anything all that special. He is about the equivilent of a Kunitz, they have very similar stats. Which is no bad thing, believe me. But honestly I would not want the bagage at this point for, let's be honest, what is currently a completely average secondary player. Like I said before, Steve Sullivan, the whipping boy of this year, is exactly the dozen points below Jagr I called during the signings.
The difference with Jagr is that he is a former famous Pen. Even if it was Gordie Howe, it would be cool to see him play and say he played for your team.

The other difference is that Jagr is 40. That doesn't give him a free pass if you can sign a better player for less, but that somewhat explains why he is only 12 points ahead of Sullivan, although Sullivan does make half as much. I think he'll sign for less money next summer anyway.

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