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01-20-2012, 11:36 PM
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Is This The Worst Period In Canadiens History Since The 1930s?

i read in one book that the canadiens were so bad during the great depression that there was talk in moving them to cleveland....

thank god that did not happen....

is this period of canadien futility is more worse than what happened to the habs in the 1930s?

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01-20-2012, 11:40 PM
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Do you mean the past decade? Because if that's the case than yes, Habs fans have been very spoiled.

If you mean exclusively this current play, then no. The team in the late 90s was probably the worst time. After the Roy trade when every move seemed to be wrong, coupled with a weak Canadian dollar, it looked like the Habs were no longer profitable. At that time it looked like the future of the NHL was in the sunbelt.

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Seeing as they regularly won cubs for all the decades since I'd say so.

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man looking back at some of the teams on the early 2000's and 1999 it just hurts
i am shocked with the 1999-2000 roster they almost made the playoffs

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Do you mean the past decade? Because if that's the case than yes, Habs fans have been very spoiled.

If you mean exclusively this current play, then no. The team in the late 90s was probably the worst time. After the Roy trade when every move seemed to be wrong, coupled with a weak Canadian dollar, it looked like the Habs were no longer profitable. At that time it looked like the future of the NHL was in the sunbelt.
Don't forget the insanely bad first round draft picks of the 90's

This team of today is no disaster.

Just need a great leader, that's all.

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Don't forget the insanely bad first round draft picks of the 90's

This team of today is no disaster.

Just need a great leader, that's all.

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The 2000-2001 team finished with 28 wins.
At the current pace the 2011-2012 team is going to get 29 wins (probably less if they end up selling at the trade deadline)

So yes this has the potential to be the worst season ever.

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:y o:

He was never the greatest player, but he was clearly able to handle the pressure and give us constant production. Some people say he was "a cancer"... well, he probably wasn't perfect, but I guess if I was given the teams HE was given to lead, I would have been pissed and moaned too. I really, really miss him.

The year he left I sort of felt weird wearing his jersey, but now I wear it with pride.

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isn't it 1948? or something like that, I've lost too much spirit to look it up....

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Not even close. Having a bad season after making the playoffs pretty much every year doesn't make a "period".

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This team is definitely better than it seems to be.

But that's actually a great opportunity to retool and rebuild, and no, not really close the the late '30ies.

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It was way more depressing in like 98-01 the team on paper back then had nothing for upside except Koivu. Watching this team with players like Price, Pacioretty, Cole, DD Subban this team has a lot of potential, a little luck and a healthy Markov this team is very much in the playoff picture.

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:y o:

He was never the greatest player, but he was clearly able to handle the pressure and give us constant production. Some people say he was "a cancer"... well, he probably wasn't perfect, but I guess if I was given the teams HE was given to lead, I would have been pissed and moaned too. I really, really miss him.

The year he left I sort of felt weird wearing his jersey, but now I wear it with pride.
I regret not getting a Koivu jersey in the centennial season. I usually don't get players jerseys, but I should have made an exception. I need to find one someday.

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I'd say the Canadiens of the late 90s, early 2000s were far worse than this current crop of players. Look at the rosters from the 1999 and 2000 season:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...000451999.html

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/l...000452000.html

Simply putrid. I still think the Canadiens team of today have some quality players that make the game worth watching (Eller, Plekanec, Subban and Price, for me). I remember in 2000 being so apathetic towards the Canadiens, and cheering for other teams like the Dallas Stars, who were filled with many ex-Canadiens heroes.

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:y o:

He was never the greatest player, but he was clearly able to handle the pressure and give us constant production. Some people say he was "a cancer"... well, he probably wasn't perfect, but I guess if I was given the teams HE was given to lead, I would have been pissed and moaned too. I really, really miss him.

The year he left I sort of felt weird wearing his jersey, but now I wear it with pride.
after watching this teamfor a while i realize what a gutsy hard working player koivu was

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It was way more depressing in like 98-01 the team on paper back then had nothing for upside except Koivu. Watching this team with players like Price, Pacioretty, Cole, DD Subban this team has a lot of potential, a little luck and a healthy Markov this team is very much in the playoff picture.
i really think thishealthy markov thing isnt going to pan out --- they -say he doeznt have knee swellingbut he hasnteven put on skates yet and dont think he will be the player he once was- just my opinion

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:y o:

He was never the greatest player, but he was clearly able to handle the pressure and give us constant production. Some people say he was "a cancer"... well, he probably wasn't perfect, but I guess if I was given the teams HE was given to lead, I would have been pissed and moaned too. I really, really miss him.

The year he left I sort of felt weird wearing his jersey, but now I wear it with pride.
This season has just been sad to put it in simple words but man I love to trade for him back
Great leader for this team. He should retire a canadien.
Gomez is no number 11 saku is

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This season has just been sad to put it in simple words but man I love to trade for him back
Great leader for this team. He should retire a canadien.
Gomez is no number 11 saku is
At the very least it would be nice if he signs one of those symbolic contracts to retire a Hab. Not sure if he'd want to though.

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after watching this teamfor a while i realize what a gutsy hard working player koivu was
Koivu?

450 assists with Montreal despite centering guys like Petrov and Valerie Bure

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Koivu?

450 assists with Montreal despite centering guys like Petrov and Valerie Bure

Petrov and Bure if he was lucky

I'm sending in 3 of my hab jerseys for names and numbering, 11,25,26 and that 11 sure as hell isn't Gomez.

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It's not so bad. Back then you didn't get a good draft choice for having a crap season.

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I regret both Koivu and Kovy. I miss these two. Heart and talent. Both could change the game at any moment, one through his hard work and dedication (and he was decently talented), one through magic and skill.

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Sure the Habs have hit a nadir but it won't last because the organization is making tons of money. All it'll take is some common sense mixed with a bit of luck.

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Year yes. Period no.

The league has changed much, its normal for teams to go trough ups and downs with the years. Perhaps because of this failure of a year we might win a cup in a few years.

Grigorenko for Conn Smythe

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I regret both Koivu and Kovy. I miss these two. Heart and talent. Both could change the game at any moment, one through his hard work and dedication (and he was decently talented), one through magic and skill.
I know man, I miss watching the habs of 5-6 years ago, maybe not the most talented group but the games were very entertaining for the most part. Comebacks in the third, Kovy soft hands and dangles, Koivu big heart and signature move in shootout( god we'd need that now) ,Souray canon shot from the point, best PP in the league, MARKOV... We had several pluggers in these lineups but we were able to fight for the 2 pts until the end almost every game. It's kinda sad to say but I even miss Aaron Downey

Anyway I don't feel that special something while watching my team anymore, except for some flashes and I really miss it. Hopefully it'll be the start of a new era with the top 5 pick we'll likely have this summer.

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