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02-26-2012, 07:30 PM
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Rychel's hit was dangerous and he deserves a suspension.

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02-26-2012, 07:35 PM
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Rychel's hit was dangerous and he deserves a suspension.
I thought it was more from the side but no doubt it was dangerous. Not sure what Rychel was really trying to do in that situation.

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02-26-2012, 07:46 PM
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I thought it was more from the side but no doubt it was dangerous. Not sure what Rychel was really trying to do in that situation.
If u guys watch the replay tonite,u will see Rychel let up and try to get in front of

Braid,there was no intent to hit from behind whatso ever,the hit on rychel Friday

was far worse plus the fact Rychel took 8 stitches in on e the area and was told by the

Sarnia doctor he was lucky not to lose the eye

Braid suffered a sore back on the play,I spoke to he and his father post game

Still think the 35 pound weight differnce had an effect

Penalize the play not the result is what a former referee tells me all the time

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02-27-2012, 08:25 AM
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Here are the reg stats for Spitfire prospects who played jr b this season

Jordan Mcnaughton-def-Strathroy-31 GP- 9 G,23 A- 32 Pts-90 Pims-
In his 3 games he had 2 goals and 4 assists
Sam Studnicka- Rw-Chatham-49 GP-11G-14A-25Pts-18Pims
In his last 2 games he had 2 goals and 3 assists
Hunter Smith-Cen-Lasalle- 41Gp-5G-9A-14Pts-109Pims
In his last 3 games he scored 1 goal and had 7 Pims
Ryan watson-Rw-Stratford-49GP-19G-22A-41Pts-71Pims
in his last 5 games he had 1Goal and 2 Assists
Jordan Dekort-Goal-lasalle-37GP-124Ga-3.57Ave-20-13-2 record
Daylen Kuchmey-Goal-Strathroy- 36GP-128 GA-3.85 Ave-15-17-0--1

As most can see some of the players are developing nicely especially Dekort and

Studnicka,along with McNaughton

It should be noted that Studnicka had a goal and 2 assists in his last game at Chatham

last nite,and with Chatham being done we can expect the Spits to add him to the roster

woiuld not be surprised if he suits up on thursday vs brampton

the others wont be available until their playoffs are over with their respective clubs

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02-27-2012, 09:48 AM
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hey hockeylegend i sent you a pm check it out and get back at me

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3 former Spitfires dealt today..

Kassian, Cantin, Mitchell

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EDIT....beaten to it.

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02-28-2012, 12:48 PM
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If fighting is banned for next year does that change any opinions whether Bilcke or Alonge should be on the team?

http://http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...t.html?_r=2&hp

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If fighting is banned for next year does that change any opinions whether Bilcke or Alonge should be on the team?

http://http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...t.html?_r=2&hp
I don't believe the OHL will ban fighting unless they ban the plays that lead to the fights. The problem is that the game is not better with the ban. Watch Jr. B where they get tossed. The game is far dirtier and cheaper. There are a few too many that want to fight, no question about it. But Mark Howe and Wayne Gretzky say get rid of the instigator penalty, so the players can police themselves. The Great One says lets try it for two years. If Crosby comes back for the playoffs the big checkers will be hitting him hard. Thats fine, but take out fighting and there is no fear of repercussions.
I watched the U17 at Christmas and it was good hockey, but the BS that went on after the whislte was terrible. No one wants to see that crap game in and game out.
And then you have the rat. You don't seee it much in Jr A games becsue they allow fighting. Look at the Jr. B games and a lot of the little palyers under 5'9" are running around giving cheap shots and sticking people. The players have to put up with it or get tossed for fighting.
I think the amount Bilcke fights is disgusting so as i write this maybe a limit on the number of fights per year would be more sensible (but around a number of 10).
I know this is a Windosr board, so just think of the crap a little rat like Ruppert would pull if he didn't have the risk of getting pounded.
Unfortunately Dave Branch is far more about perception than reality. I would rather ban him first.

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02-28-2012, 01:44 PM
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If fighting is banned for next year does that change any opinions whether Bilcke or Alonge should be on the team?

http://http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...t.html?_r=2&hp
Link is busted.

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Any one have any guesses as to who WR is targeting in the draft? I was hoping that we would finish out of the playoffs and have a shot at McDavid or Ho-Sang, but that doesn't look likely now.

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Removing the instigator rule would be a help. It's not set in stone when it's to be used and, in some situations, it'd deter incidents from happening.

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Any one have any guesses as to who WR is targeting in the draft? I was hoping that we would finish out of the playoffs and have a shot at McDavid or Ho-Sang, but that doesn't look likely now.
ho sang is going 1 and mcdavid never got ES

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hockeylegend....any info on Eric Palazzolo? Is he going the college route?

I see he has similar numbers to Studnicka with Chatham in Jr. B. this past season.

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ho sang is going 1 and mcdavid never got ES
I know you said that in the other thread too, but others posters (who seem fairly knowledgeable) have said that's wrong and that the process hasn't even really begun yet.


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ho sang is going 1 and mcdavid never got ES
I think you are mistaken I have heard McDavid is going #1 because by all accounts he will get exceptional status.

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Any one have any guesses as to who WR is targeting in the draft? I was hoping that we would finish out of the playoffs and have a shot at McDavid or Ho-Sang, but that doesn't look likely now.
Spitfires really like Fabbri but it's a long shot he would fall to the Spits if they made the playoffs. If the Spits miss the playoffs then they would probably get Fabbri.

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hockeylegend....any info on Eric Palazzolo? Is he going the college route?

I see he has similar numbers to Studnicka with Chatham in Jr. B. this past season.
Not sure of his plans, and while he had similar numbers as Studnicka,keep in mind

Studnicka is a year younger

As well most of Palazzola"s pts came in the 1st half of the season,though I hear

he played injured during a good part of the 2nd half of the season

Having said that most feel Studnicka has a higher upside,the fact that Palazzolo

is a 94 born, and Ryan Watson ,plus Tony calderone are higher rated 94 born

fowards,the chances of him cracking windsor next year are rather slim

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Removing the instigator rule would be a help. It's not set in stone when it's to be used and, in some situations, it'd deter incidents from happening.
I agree re the instigator rule,get rid of it for 2 years,as well as punishing the staged

fights with expulsion,but no suspensions and try that for 2 years too

I feel as long as the CHl is the main dev league for the NHL, their rules should

mimick the NHl rules,if fighting is abolished by the NHl then abolish it in the Chl

Millions of dollars go to CHL for development and I expect the NHL to have a say

The safety issue is bunk,more concussions are caused by bodychecking legal or

illegal,so what do we do eliminate body checking too

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It's easy...

Fighting for the sake of fighting - 5/GM ala preseason.

Fighting due to a specific incident - 5/10.

While I've argued in the past that staged fights have reasons sometimes (and I know for a fact they do), it'll be up to the officials to determine what penalty is given.

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I think you are mistaken I have heard McDavid is going #1 because by all accounts he will get exceptional status.
this quote was pulled from the toronto sun last sat.

"Well, this year, for the second year in a row, an underage minor midget, Connor McDavid, will be granted early status and almost certainly will be picked first in the OHL selection draft ..."


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the source where i heard this from is from high up the rank in londons orginization...

i think that if he gets it this will be wstupid due to the fact that if they r going to give ES to one player a year it should be called ES

and then soon enough every draft is going to be like this

" who is the next 15 years old to go first overall again "

the trickle effecct that this would have giving it back to back would be to big as every parent would do anything to have there kid move up and age groupe ..

and to me personally i dont believe that mcdavid is big / strong enough for the ohl game ..

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raz i know that the spits likle frabbi but he is the second target not first ...

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the source where i heard this from is from high up the rank in londons orginization...

i think that if he gets it this will be wstupid due to the fact that if they r going to give ES to one player a year it should be called ES

and then soon enough every draft is going to be like this

" who is the next 15 years old to go first overall again "

the trickle effecct that this would have giving it back to back would be to big as every parent would do anything to have there kid move up and age groupe ..

and to me personally i dont believe that mcdavid is big / strong enough for the ohl game ..
I was told Saturday that McDavid to Erie was all but completed so take it for what it's worth. I don't see the downside in exceptional status it may make that draft class a little weaker the following year but that's all relative on how strong that age group is to begin with. The OHL has done a terrific job in granting exceptional status and getting younger players into the league. Under a different set of rules Rico Fata and Jason Spezza both played their underage year in the OHL. Spezza had a very good year and Fata did not have that good of a year but as an underage 11g 15a on a solid Sault team isn't bad. The players have have followed are Tavares and Ekblad and both had success in their underage year. The OHL didn't grant that status to McFarland which was very wise. The OHL isn't all willy nilly in granting that status to players in fact they have been very wise and prudent and success has followed these players that have gotten this status. There's no reason to think if given the status McDavid would have some success. I see nothing wrong with getting to see players for an extra year in the OHL. Would I like to see Windsor have a player like Ekblad for 3 years instead of 2? Sure would and I bet Barrie fans will enjoy that luxury.

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I wouldn't grant McDavid exceptional status because Erie has the first overall pick and I wouldn't send a 15 yr old to Erie.

We're looking at picking 6th-7th-8th at this point. Soo ain't catching us or Guelph so we're a lock to make the play-offs and I like our odds staying ahead of Guelph meaning we have the 6th pick AT BEST, and then have to worry about finishing ahead of Belleville/Petes and the Gennies.

Any top prospect potentially playing the NCAA game? Could be important to pick before Gennies...

Erie - McDavid
Kingston - Ho-Sang
Soo - 3rd overall
Petes - 4th overall
Guelph - 5th overall
Windsor/Bulls/Gennies 6th-7th-8th
Kingston Compensation Pick - 9th overall

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