Wait a minute, someone's handle is Section 103? I sit in 103 and I'm flat out EMBARRASSED to sit there. That section is full of complete morons from top to bottom
Wait a minute, someone's handle is Section 103? I sit in 103 and I'm flat out EMBARRASSED to sit there. That section is full of complete morons from top to bottom
I'm still not sure why the penalty shot. Kerby didn't throw his stick (looked like it bounced off the skates and he lost his grip), and the shooter simply lost control of the puck before Pavelka could poke it away.
Wait a minute, someone's handle is Section 103? I sit in 103 and I'm flat out EMBARRASSED to sit there. That section is full of complete morons from top to bottom
That's ok, I used to be embarrassed when I lived in Forest Glade
Wait a minute, someone's handle is Section 103? I sit in 103 and I'm flat out EMBARRASSED to sit there. That section is full of complete morons from top to bottom
Says the guy who has to wear a goofy hat for attention at every game. 103 is the best section in the arena, its the only section that feels like the old barn to me. The leather lung is a cherished tradition in windsor hockey and that section is home to some of the most vocal of them, and when I'm sitting there - the best.
I feel the same way. No one has taken ownership of the team.
Someone has to take charge of a pow wow in that dressing room. When teams are playing bad, very often some player will throw a yelling fit on the bench to rally the troops. Here they all just hang their head and have this deer in headlights look. Maybe it takes situations like last night to develop a players leadership role in the room, as there is certainly no lead by example on the ice. I fear these kids are reading this about this "were being built for the Memorial Cup run of 2014" crap too much. They seem to think or dream we will be a good team when the time right. I worried myself with all this 2014 talk, this could be a huge dud if there soon isn't some hints at a consistent competitve attitude. It would also not hurt if these kids just shot the puck more. This setting up for the perfect shot always ends in disaster.
Says the guy who has to wear a goofy hat for attention at every game. 103 is the best section in the arena, its the only section that feels like the old barn to me. The leather lung is a cherished tradition in windsor hockey and that section is home to some of the most vocal of them, and when I'm sitting there - the best.
It's not for attention at all, but I don't believe I can convince you otherwise. Also, it's not goofy in the least. It's an Italian gondolier's hat made of fine straw and twine, much better than the original straw hat. Much better brim.
I think the "feels like the old barn" think is romanticized a bit much. The only time that rink feels like the old barn to me is when the scoreboard and ribbon board malfunction and people have the ability to think and talk about the game between whistles. But I'm getting off topic.....
Obviously I don't think EVERY person in 103 is a moron. My parents, best friend, Libbs and his family, and a few select people sitting behind and in front of me are just fine, but everyone else is. This is including but not limited to:
-yelling at Nick Ebert before he's had a chance to draw a breath, and refuse to like him no matter what he does. He's officially The Spitfire That Spitfire Fans Hate, joining such company as Brian Soso, Jonathan Sciacca, Paul Giolanardo (sp?), and Mike Weber. The difference is Nick Ebert is BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM. He has underperformed in his first two years, yes, and his hustle leaves a little to be desired, but he's still one of the best we have, and I imagine if he gets an NHL camp in him, he'll improve by leaps and bounds
-yelling at the referees as if they just pushed a toddler down a flight of stairs. Flipping him off and calling him every name under the book serves no purpose other than making yourself feel better. You don't like the call, fine, boo it, but let it the hell go after that. The dramatics from Downie Nerd and The Drunken Vested Man in my row are deplorable (especially with children sitting all around them) and aren't getting the referees to like us any better. Something often forgotten are these referees are still developing too! With every game having two referees and the NHL/AHL taking a few OHL referees this year, some Junior B refs are being thrust into the spotlight. They're learning, just like junior hockey players and junior hockey coaches and junior hockey broadcasters. It's more than a development league for the kids y'know.
I can't wait for the seat relocation event in the summer
EDIT: haha, post #84!
Last edited by ForestGlade: 01-27-2012 at 06:27 AM.
Reason: I'm a dork
-yelling at Nick Ebert before he's had a chance to draw a breath, and refuse to like him no matter what he does. He's officially The Spitfire That Spitfire Fans Hate, joining such company as Brian Soso, Jonathan Sciacca, Paul Giolanardo (sp?), and Mike Weber. The difference is Nick Ebert is BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM. He has underperformed in his first two years, yes, and his hustle leaves a little to be desired, but he's still one of the best we have, and I imagine if he gets an NHL camp in him, he'll improve by leaps and bounds
Well said.
I was at a game in Guelph between Windsor and the Storm, and at times Ebert looked great. I came on here later that night, and not a peep about it. Its fine to critize a player if hes playing poorly, but I dont see why there cannot be praise when he plays well. Im surprsied that it doesnt happen more, hes not playing nearly as bad as some make him out to be.
I was at a game in Guelph between Windsor and the Storm, and at times Ebert looked great. I came on here later that night, and not a peep about it. Its fine to critize a player if hes playing poorly, but I dont see why there cannot be praise when he plays well. Im surprsied that it doesnt happen more, hes not playing nearly as bad as some make him out to be.
With all do respect... he'll need to play well more than a game here and there if he wants the detractors to get off his back. He's far to inconsistent, he's lazy, and if you read any of his quotes (especially those about his recent draft rankings) you can see he has a huge ego about him. It's impossible to teach a kid that already thinks he's the best (which is the indication I get from people within the organisation).
I also think a big reason why people are on him is because of what he cost us. I'm sure there are many that (seeing his poor play this season) that are bitter because we gave up a better chance for a 3-peat by trading Shugg and Cantin. Add that to Webermin being traded this year for what looks like nothing... last year is looking like a disaster (with regards to decisions that were made).
That is stupid on so many levels, and I hope you don't actually believe that
I'm not say this is what I believe...but it's not all that stupid. Hindsight is always 20/20 but considering how things went last year... wouldn't you rather of had Shugg and Cantin and just drafted Rychel?
At the time of the trade it made sense since they wanted to start the rebuild. There was huge hype around him coming in. My question is how come you hold "the hype" against Campbell but won't against Ebert? Ebert was being touted as the "best defensemen and maybe best player available in the draft" and he has yet to live up to his hype.
With all do respect... he'll need to play well more than a game here and there if he wants the detractors to get off his back.
Its not about 'getting detractors off his back', its about calling a spade a spade.
If fans are quick to jump on him for a bad game, is it not fair to do the same for a good one? The fact that it doesnt happen after a good one suggests something in my mind, but thats just my opinion.
A lot of work needs to be done on the defensive end of things. Not only improvement from the current players but upgrades are needed. The Ebert discussion is interesting, he needs to step up but I guess he's the scapegoat for this year not much he can do about it, he could play better but it wouldn't really matter. I believe this is 13 straight games where the Spitfires have been outshot.
Downie Nerd. The Drunken Vested Man. That's over the top. I'm going over to 103 next game for a look. It sound like their from an episode of The X-Files.
Its not about 'getting detractors off his back', its about calling a spade a spade.
If fans are quick to jump on him for a bad game, is it not fair to do the same for a good one? The fact that it doesnt happen after a good one suggests something in my mind, but thats just my opinion.
Like I said...the hype doesn't allow it. It's the same with Campbell. They play good, no one says anything because it's expected of them but when they play bad, they are the ones to be picked apart. The hype around Ebert put him on the next level when it comes to expectations. His attitude (on and off the ice) doesn't help matters either. Is it fair to the player, maybe not. But it's not going to get any easier in the future.
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A lot of work needs to be done on the defensive end of things. Not only improvement from the current players but upgrades are needed. The Ebert discussion is interesting, he needs to step up but I guess he's the scapegoat for this year not much he can do about it, he could play better but it wouldn't really matter. I believe this is 13 straight games where the Spitfires have been outshot.
Definitely and to blame JUST Ebert is foolish. Our entire defense corps has been less than impressive all year. Not just the defense... but the complete team defense. As I've said earlier, I've never seen a team have so much trouble clearing their own zone.
Downie Nerd. The Drunken Vested Man. That's over the top. I'm going over to 103 next game for a look. It sound like their from an episode of The X-Files.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of ripping on Ebert myself. I agree its undeserved for the most part, its far better when the animals at the zoo focus their attention on heckling the other teams players to be sure. Having said that, you're getting angry at how fans in 103 yell at the refs too? I might suggest 103 can't wait for your reassignment either. And yes, there is no convincing me that the hat is anything but attention ploy. I thought that the very first time I saw it at the barn, and every time I've seen it since. That's fine if its your thing and all, but if you're going to piss on your fellow spitfire fans for doing their thing at the game you deserve a bit of the same treatment.
Instead of criticizing Downie Nerd and drunken vest man, you should embrace them for the character they bring to the game. When we moved from the barn we lost some good ones, like the Kenny Rodgers looking guy who used to berate the opposing goalies and that old dude with the rubber chicken on a stick.
Like I said...the hype doesn't allow it. It's the same with Campbell. They play good, no one says anything because it's expected of them but when they play bad, they are the ones to be picked apart. The hype around Ebert put him on the next level when it comes to expectations. His attitude (on and off the ice) doesn't help matters either. Is it fair to the player, maybe not. But it's not going to get any easier in the future.
Definitely and to blame JUST Ebert is foolish. Our entire defense corps has been less than impressive all year. Not just the defense... but the complete team defense. As I've said earlier, I've never seen a team have so much trouble clearing their own zone.
Blown leads have become a common theme even into the latter part of last year.
Last year
Windsor 4-0 over Sudbury, lose 6-5
Windsor 3-1 over Mississauga 5 mins left lose 4-3 shootout
Windsor 4-0 over Kitchener, lose 5-4
We can include the big lead blown against Erie in game 6 and Saginaw game 2 last year as well.
This year
Windsor 4-3 over Owen Sound 10 mins left lose 6-4
Windsor 4-2 over Plymouth going into 3rd lose 7-4
Now this game against Saginaw
Different teams this year and last year but some similar signs of the team blowing leads. One constant has been Smith, Jones and Matzos behind the bench. I am not sure if it's just youth or the messages aren't getting through.
Blown leads have become a common theme even into the latter part of last year.
Last year
Windsor 4-0 over Sudbury, lose 6-5
Windsor 3-1 over Mississauga 5 mins left lose 4-3 shootout
Windsor 4-0 over Kitchener, lose 5-4
We can include the big lead blown against Erie in game 6 and Saginaw game 2 last year as well.
This year
Windsor 4-3 over Owen Sound 10 mins left lose 6-4
Windsor 4-2 over Plymouth going into 3rd lose 7-4
Now this game against Saginaw
Different teams this year and last year but some similar signs of the team blowing leads. One constant has been Smith, Jones and Matzos behind the bench. I am not sure if it's just youth or the messages aren't getting through.
Very concerning but I think this issue also boils down to poor team defense.
Is there too many voices behind the bench? Maybe the players are getting mixed messages?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of ripping on Ebert myself. I agree its undeserved for the most part, its far better when the animals at the zoo focus their attention on heckling the other teams players to be sure. Having said that, you're getting angry at how fans in 103 yell at the refs too? I might suggest 103 can't wait for your reassignment either. And yes, there is no convincing me that the hat is anything but attention ploy. I thought that the very first time I saw it at the barn, and every time I've seen it since. That's fine if its your thing and all, but if you're going to piss on your fellow spitfire fans for doing their thing at the game you deserve a bit of the same treatment.
Instead of criticizing Downie Nerd and drunken vest man, you should embrace them for the character they bring to the game. When we moved from the barn we lost some good ones, like the Kenny Rodgers looking guy who used to berate the opposing goalies and that old dude with the rubber chicken on a stick.
There are some things I miss at the Barn but the OHL isn't like that anymore it's a big business. To some the Barn had character to some it was a dilapidated dump that had animals running around in the arena and I am not talking about fans, a player getting electrocuted in the arena. There are some real nice arenas in this league but the cookie cutters like Sarnia, Guelph, Plymouth and Brampton become an eye sore and yes I would rather see a game in the Barn than those places. It comes with the territory though of big business. Those fans made the Barn unique but society in general has outgrown those antics.
Very concerning but I think this issue also boils down to poor team defense.
Is there too many voices behind the bench? Maybe the players are getting mixed messages?
Yes the back checking is very poor on this team. I also believe there are too many voices behind the bench. I would rather see one person up top. I am not sure it would make a big difference but it doesn't hurt to try something out.
Yes the back checking is very poor on this team. I also believe there are too many voices behind the bench. I would rather see one person up top. I am not sure it would make a big difference but it doesn't hurt to try something out.
One guy up top is a great idea. That bench is really crowded...
103 is the best section in the arena, its the only section that feels like the old barn to me. The leather lung is a cherished tradition in windsor hockey and that section is home to some of the most vocal of them, and when I'm sitting there - the best.
It would also not hurt if these kids just shot the puck more. This setting up for the perfect shot always ends in disaster.
