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01-22-2012, 11:30 AM
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Lupul-Kadri-Kessel

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01-22-2012, 11:31 AM
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Lupul-Kadri-Kessel

Please.
I just want to see it for 2-3 shifts to see if they are better defensively.

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I do think Kadri will have to get a look at center eventually, because the way he plays, you can tell he wants the middle of the ice.

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You're joking right? Kadri doesn't resemble anything remotely close to a "power" forward, sure he can make some nifty moves along the boards and dish some nice passes but more often than not he just creates turnovers. If anything he's a defensive liability on the ice because he looks lost when the leafs are in their own zone. The kid will be good, he's talented, but he's still making allot of mistakes (like young players do) and is not someone you want playing on your top 6 as of yet, that would be disastrous for our playoff chances. Although I do agree he should be given more PP time. Lupul is someone who should be on the top 6 no questions asked, he is having an amazing year and impresses me more and more every game. He can create opportunities out of nothing, he's strong on the boards, and drives the net on every play. In my opinion Lupul and Kessel should not be split up, Lupul is the spark to that line, and Bozak's speed and pass-first mentality is a good fit as well.

I agree Kadri is not a power forward, but in no way is Lupul one of our better two way forwards, the giveaway on the Diaz goal was proof, he is a Puck hog, but his offense has overshadowed that this season.

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His legs are like tree trunks!

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Whats an ELC to a winger like me, can you please remind me?
(Deke so hard) With my thrill-seeks, AHL's best player for like 4 weeks
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01-22-2012, 11:58 AM
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Crabb on the second line but kadri on the third..... I don't even know what to say anymore

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01-22-2012, 12:10 PM
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Id rather have Frattin back, honestly. This team isnt short on skill, it's short on power. Nobody taking it hard to the net the way Frattin can, nobody standing in front of the opposing goalie, nobody banging in garbage rebounds, nobody punishing the other team on the boards and making them work nearly hard enough in our zone.

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It's time to give Nazem more time, he's been a pleasant surprise, has been solid on both ends of the ice, and i feel is the only person other than kessel that can create something out of nothing. great hands, great hockey IQ, makes all the small plays and takes hits to push the puck up. Might still be light, but hes still 6'0 or 6'1 so he'll be fine and grow into that body eventually. ITS KADRI TIME!
He's inconsistent in a big way, how could you pretend he's ready? The guy gets called up and plays well for a couple games then goes into the tank for about 10 games. How is that ready? Send him down, its obvious the guy hasn't figured out that being an NHL player requires a consistent effort every night.

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01-22-2012, 12:40 PM
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Id rather have Frattin back, honestly. This team isnt short on skill, it's short on power. Nobody taking it hard to the net the way Frattin can, nobody standing in front of the opposing goalie, nobody banging in garbage rebounds, nobody punishing the other team on the boards and making them work nearly hard enough in our zone.
Frattin never did that.

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He's inconsistent in a big way, how could you pretend he's ready? The guy gets called up and plays well for a couple games then goes into the tank for about 10 games. How is that ready? Send him down, its obvious the guy hasn't figured out that being an NHL player requires a consistent effort every night.
By your requirements, most of the team should be in the AHL.

I never understood why a player that gets knocked down yet still goes into the corners every time willing to take the hit pisses certain people off so much.

Frattin fits the "power forward" physical description, but he wasn't exactly one to screen and pot in garbage goals. Not sure where that description of him comes from. He did drive the net on occasion, though, but I recall him shooting from outside more than standing in front of the net. He's got a heavy shot (that needs tuning).


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Kulemin- kadri - Lupul

Kadri could make plays while both wingers do the dirty work and both can finish plays with their shots.

Connolly- steckel - kessel is another interesting combination of playmaker(connolly) size and net presense (steckel) and a shooter in kessel.

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Kadri is the only player on the team that isnt a female dog. he is 6'1 170 and still goes into the boards, gets wrecked and comes back for more. He is the only one who actually creates stuff in the offensive zone, he can consistently keep the cycle going, he's shown speed, he goes hard, and he gets face planted into the boards and still comes up asking for more. He is the toughest kid on our team, and he has shown potential leadership for only being 21. We are so hard on him, but 29 other teams whom see his as much as we have would love to have him. Heart and soul kinda guy just like he was for Kitchener and London.

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01-22-2012, 01:12 PM
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I've been very optimistic about Kadri since he was drafted but I'm starting to pick up a Kyle Wellwood vibe to this guy. Is he ever going to be more than an undersized guy with good hands and a few showy moves?

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Kadri is the only player on the team that isnt a female dog. he is 6'1 170 and still goes into the boards, gets wrecked and comes back for more. He is the only one who actually creates stuff in the offensive zone, he can consistently keep the cycle going, he's shown speed, he goes hard, and he gets face planted into the boards and still comes up asking for more. He is the toughest kid on our team, and he has shown potential leadership for only being 21. We are so hard on him, but 29 other teams whom see his as much as we have would love to have him. Heart and soul kinda guy just like he was for Kitchener and London.
Add to that, he has elite talent

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How anyone can think Kadri isn't our fourth best forward is beyond me.

Kessel
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Kadri AINEC

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Kadri has to show he is the complete package. Not there yet.

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How anyone can think Kadri isn't our fourth best forward is beyond me.

Kessel
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Kadri AINEC
So you're telling me that as of right now Kadri is better than Connolly? Not a chance.

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You're joking right? Kadri doesn't resemble anything remotely close to a "power" forward, sure he can make some nifty moves along the boards and dish some nice passes but more often than not he just creates turnovers. If anything he's a defensive liability on the ice because he looks lost when the leafs are in their own zone. The kid will be good, he's talented, but he's still making allot of mistakes (like young players do) and is not someone you want playing on your top 6 as of yet, that would be disastrous for our playoff chances. Although I do agree he should be given more PP time. Lupul is someone who should be on the top 6 no questions asked, he is having an amazing year and impresses me more and more every game. He can create opportunities out of nothing, he's strong on the boards, and drives the net on every play. In my opinion Lupul and Kessel should not be split up, Lupul is the spark to that line, and Bozak's speed and pass-first mentality is a good fit as well.
I said "the closest thing to a powerforward" I didn't say he was one. In our top six he's the only one that throws hits. It's more a shot at the rest of our top 6. Kulemin is suppose to be a powerforward but he shouldn't be in our top 6 with the way he's played.

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Kadri has been great so far, not sure where the haters are coming from. I cant think of a single huge, boneheaded defensive gaffe that he's made in his time up, he is dumping the puck in at all the right times. His skill and creativity is awesome and is best illuminated when playing with Connolly and Lupul, he deserved a few assists from Lombardi. He seemingly has chemistry with everybody which is a sign of a great passer. He loves going to the dirty areas and is pretty good on the boards considering his size. He just needs ti fill out his body a little more and to just keep gaining NHL (not AHL) experience.

What more can you ask from him? Not all prospects can turn out like Skinner

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OMG again stop with the Kadri love can you not all see at 21 he is the size of a 12 grade kid? Like eat some meat already and play some MEN hockey
This is the second thread where you've brought up Grade 12(17-18yr old) boys.

Should we be concerned?

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Frattin never did that.
Frattin makes himself very hard to play against on th eboards and cutting to the net from the wing. The guy is a truck. We need that more than we need another small, skilled forward. No idea what you're talking about.

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Frattin makes himself very hard to play against on th eboards and cutting to the net from the wing. The guy is a truck. We need that more than we need another small, skilled forward. No idea what you're talking about.
Kadri drives the net just as much as Frattin, Frattin is more solid physically but the way Kadri can turn and spin on a dime makes him just as effective on board play. The fact that Kadri can actually pass just confirms Kadri's current superiority IMO.

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Kadri's production went down after moving Connolly off from him and Mac to Kessel and Lupul when Bozak got injured and had Lombardi playing with them. Lombardi couldn't do anything especially the Detroit game where Kadri sets him up nicely 2-3 times.

Put him with players that can produce and he will get points. I think he should see more pp time. One thing I don't like about our first unit pp is having 3 right handed forwards (lupul, bozak, kessel) where having Bozak right in the middle is not doing much. Atleast a left handed player there can do a one timer.

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