I think we're probably waiting for our #1 center and our #1, 2 and 5 defensemen to get back, plus Belanger, Eberle and Hall to be 100%, and our depth defensemen to get back to playing a reasonable amount of minutes, our top pp and pk'ers to be back and some of our ahl'ers playing in the ahl instead of playing big nhl minutes.
PRV's problem is his on-ice vision it is non-existent at this level. He also does not think the game well enough at this level.
Not seeing top six in his future.
Yes, I've used the Dvorak comparison before -- great toolset but his hockey IQ isn't high enough for him to have top 6 production. He's a 10 to 15 goal guy who skates like the wind and is responsible defensively.
Yes, I've used the Dvorak comparison before -- great toolset but his hockey IQ isn't high enough for him to have top 6 production. He's a 10 to 15 goal guy who skates like the wind and is responsible defensively.
Rich Peverly and Chris Kelly from Boston's 3rd line are possible 'down the road' comparables for PRV too.
People are still rushing on him though. 15 goals in his rookie year. Let's at least wait until his ELC is up before pigeon-holing him.
Give that line half a chance (you know they won't).
Then temporarily go with Eberle or Hall at centre on the 1st line. Something like Hall-Eberle-Hemsky. Ebs did play some C in Regina.
Horcoff and Smyth are 3rd liners now in their careers. Our coach just doesn't see it that way. They can go with anyone, though I'd try Petrell and give Jones some time on the 4th line (still on the PK).
Rich Peverly and Chris Kelly from Boston's 3rd line are possible 'down the road' comparables for PRV too.
People are still rushing on him though. 15 goals in his rookie year. Let's at least wait until his ELC is up before pigeon-holing him.
That is what I am seeing.
That being said his scouting reports lauded his great on-ice vision and hockey IQ so you have to wonder about confidence and feeling overwhelmed at this level.
There were more concerns about his finish that his on-ice vision.
I noticed it seems like the team in general has lost confidence in him as well. I don't know how many times I've seen him wide open in the last couple of games on the goal line on the PP and noone passes it down to him. He would probably have scored by now if they would have done that.
Please send down prv, please don't ever call up green again
Yes.
Extra Yes.
Also send Lander down if you cant find room for him in the top 9. I'd rather have Omarra on the 4th line.
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Originally Posted by Hemsky4PM
PRV-Gagner-Hartikainen.
Give that line half a chance (you know they won't).
Then temporarily go with Eberle or Hall at centre on the 1st line. Something like Hall-Eberle-Hemsky. Ebs did play some C in Regina.
Horcoff and Smyth are 3rd liners now in their careers. Our coach just doesn't see it that way. They can go with anyone, though I'd try Petrell and give Jones some time on the 4th line (still on the PK).
This is the key for this team. Horcoff/Belanger needs to be the 3rd/4th line centers. But even when we were 100% healthy it was unfathomable for the coaching staff to put either on the 4th line.
This solves all our problems!
Chorney is the missing link this whole time!
Considering he's replacing Teubert, it's definitely an upgrade. Not only that, but with Teubert, Sutton, Peckham, and Potter (the way he's been lately), we don't have anyone capable of skating the puck out or making a good first pass out of the zone. I'd rather we got Whitney or Gilbert back, but Chorney is probably the best option we've got available to us right now.
I'm glad they brought Hartikainen back. When they sent him down the last time, I was wondering why he was the one to go instead of Green.
Lander is a better center than O'Marra (with Belanger back, we don't need both to play C), and Petrell is a better penalty killer, so replacing O'Marra with Petrell is another move I like.
Hartikainen-Lander-Petrell could be a nice 4th line, but that would involve Eager sitting, and I thought he was better than most of our forwards last night, so I'm not sure he deserves it.
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Considering he's replacing Teubert, it's definitely an upgrade. Not only that, but with Teubert, Sutton, Peckham, and Potter (the way he's been lately), we don't have anyone capable of skating the puck out or making a good first pass out of the zone. I'd rather we got Whitney or Gilbert back, but Chorney is probably the best option we've got available to us right now.
I'm glad they brought Hartikainen back. When they sent him down the last time, I was wondering why he was the one to go instead of Green.
Lander is a better center than O'Marra (with Belanger back, we don't need both to play C), and Petrell is a better penalty killer, so replacing O'Marra with Petrell is another move I like.
Hartikainen-Lander-Petrell could be a nice 4th line, but that would involve Eager sitting, and I thought he was better than most of our forwards last night, so I'm not sure he deserves it.
As per Stauffer twitter many hours ago. Whitney will play Monday.
I am pleased with these changes. Teubert had good and bad moments but more seasoning in the A on a winning team won't hurt him at all. Chorney is also a better puck mover. Oh and I take back everything I said about O'Marra being able to replace what Lander brings for 6 minutes a game. O'Marra can't handle 6 minutes a game. The less said about Green the better, and I'm still unsure why we sent Petrell down in the first place.
Wow the people calling Teubert terrible because he made 2 mistakes last night. He's been one of our most solid defense in this stretch next to Sutton and Smid. And you can't blame Comeau's goal on Teubert at all, that goal is purely on Khabi.
What do you have to say for the 2 totally uncalled for highsticking penalties in a row last night and the delay of game call with no one around. He was beyond awful last night. Seriously, what was he thinking on the delay of game? All he had to do was take one more stride and he is outside the blueline. You could see Eberle's reaction as well wondering what the heck he was doing.
IMO - Keller (if he has an NHL contract) deserves the call up.
O'Marra is just 4th line filler. No real offense to speak of.
Chorney better sit in the PB because he sucks. Seriously, flush this guy already. He's terrible in the AHL and worse in the NHL - can't handle any forward bigger than him and makes poor decisions in the D-zone with the puck. Anyone willing to make a bet he'll be a -3 in the next NHL game?
Yay, Harski! We need more of the grit. I'd love for him to pack on another 10-20 lbs of muscle tho'...
I am pleased with these changes. Teubert had good and bad moments but more seasoning in the A on a winning team won't hurt him at all. Chorney is also a better puck mover. Oh and I take back everything I said about O'Marra being able to replace what Lander brings for 6 minutes a game. O'Marra can't handle 6 minutes a game. The less said about Green the better, and I'm still unsure why we sent Petrell down in the first place.
Your lines looks decent, but it would be a miracle of Lander played ahead of either Horcoff or Belanger, both will never happen.
In terms of your D, theres no way whitney is playing ahead of Smid right away. Keep Smid+Petry as the "1st" pair.
Also i dont know why everyone is hating on Peckham still, he played terrible at the beginning of the year, but recently has been an OK 3rd pairing guy. I don't know what leads you to believe Chorney will be better.
Smid-Petry
Sutton-Potter
Whitney-Peckham
2/3 pairing are a toss up, ice time is up for grabs to who plays better.
The only one that I feel bad for is Teubert; the only other two can GTFO.
Amen to this. The guy has been a gamer. Some bad bounces so to speak, re: penalties, but the game is coming to him. Peckam must have pics of Renny and a Sutter in compromising instances to stay up.
Considering he's replacing Teubert, it's definitely an upgrade. Not only that, but with Teubert, Sutton, Peckham, and Potter (the way he's been lately), we don't have anyone capable of skating the puck out or making a good first pass out of the zone. I'd rather we got Whitney or Gilbert back, but Chorney is probably the best option we've got available to us right now.
I'm glad they brought Hartikainen back. When they sent him down the last time, I was wondering why he was the one to go instead of Green.
Lander is a better center than O'Marra (with Belanger back, we don't need both to play C), and Petrell is a better penalty killer, so replacing O'Marra with Petrell is another move I like.
Hartikainen-Lander-Petrell could be a nice 4th line, but that would involve Eager sitting, and I thought he was better than most of our forwards last night, so I'm not sure he deserves it.
Chorney will just be the new sacrificial lamb on these boards, and you all know it. I hope that Teubert gets to stay in the AHL the rest of the year to get consistant play time. The same people calling him out on here before, are the same ones that are now praising Chorney for coming up. Geesh. I'll go mix another batch of kool aid for you folks.
What do you have to say for the 2 totally uncalled for highsticking penalties in a row last night and the delay of game call with no one around. He was beyond awful last night. Seriously, what was he thinking on the delay of game? All he had to do was take one more stride and he is outside the blueline. You could see Eberle's reaction as well wondering what the heck he was doing.
First one was a follow thru shooting the puck out of his zone. Hey professor, what would you have done?
