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If Nash let's anyone walk it will be Suter. Like one poster said, they could get 4 1st through an offer sheet, which I doubt anyone will do unless it's BB. I don't see how you can try to build a complete team with 3 players taking up a 3rd of you salary cap.
If Suter leaves then I don't see Weber staying. Weber and Suter have both said they are waiting to see what Nashvile does, which is code for sorry I liked it here but there's somewhere else I want to play.
Horcoffs contract is negative value bad deal for Nashville. How about:
To EDM: Shea Weber
To Nash: Tom Gilbert, Linus Omark, Curtis Hamilton, EDM 2nd 2012, Anaheims 2nd 2012, EDM 1st 2013.
This would be at the draft. The only way this happens is if Weber wants out but at least this way they get a top 4 Dman back to replace some of those minutes and a hell of a lot for the future.
Horcoffs contract is negative value bad deal for Nashville. How about:
To EDM: Shea Weber
To Nash: Tom Gilbert, Linus Omark, Curtis Hamilton, EDM 2nd 2012, Anaheims 2nd 2012, EDM 1st 2013.
This would be at the draft. The only way this happens is if Weber wants out but at least this way they get a top 4 Dman back to replace some of those minutes and a hell of a lot for the future.
That is plain awful.
Linus Omark has no value, he is just a Youtube sensation.
You don't even include this years 1st Rd Pick? Next year you would have Shea Weber and probably a top 3 pick from this year which means that pick would probably be somewhere from 15-25, aka not that great
Counter would likely be:
Replace Gilbert with Smid
Replace Omark with Hall
Drop the 2nds and Hamilton
Linus Omark has no value, he is just a Youtube sensation.
You don't even include this years 1st Rd Pick? Next year you would have Shea Weber and probably a top 3 pick from this year which means that pick would probably be somewhere from 15-25, aka not that great
Counter would likely be:
Replace Gilbert with Smid
Replace Omark with Hall
Drop the 2nds and Hamilton
Smid, Hall, 2013 1st for Weber.
That's just rediculous Chris Pronger in his prime didn't fetch half that.
Horcoffs contract is negative value bad deal for Nashville. How about:
To EDM: Shea Weber
To Nash: Tom Gilbert, Linus Omark, Curtis Hamilton, EDM 2nd 2012, Anaheims 2nd 2012, EDM 1st 2013.
This would be at the draft. The only way this happens is if Weber wants out but at least this way they get a top 4 Dman back to replace some of those minutes and a hell of a lot for the future.
I'd think Eberle and your 1st(top 3 pick) this year at the draft would have Nashville's interest only if they couldn't sign him and had to trade him to bring back assets. If we're talking about a signed Weber at 6.5 mil well Preds would be crazy to trade him then and the cost would be HUGE like Hall PLUS
This is such a dumb thread. Weber will never go to a team that is not a serious contender. Even if the Preds trade him, he would never resign with the Oilers and they would forfeit draft picks after somebody offer sheets him.
any of the big 3 (whichever NSH prefers) + 2012 1st for weber and I think that deal gets done at the draft .. only if though NSH aren't going to be able to sign him going forward
This is such a dumb thread. Weber will never go to a team that is not a serious contender. Even if the Preds trade him, he would never resign with the Oilers and they would forfeit draft picks after somebody offer sheets him.
I wouldn't mind the Oiler selling the farm for Weber. Edmonton is closer to Vancouver than Nashville so it'll be easier for Weber to shop for his new home for when he hits UFA
The thing is tambo doesn't have the gm skill to pull off a trade off that magnitude without losing way too much. I say 1st round 2012, 1st round 2013(cause let's be honest weber isn't a kessel and is worth 2 first rounders.) And gagne. But than again edmonton is probably gunna get another top 3 pick this year, maybe 1st round 2012, 2nd round 2012 and hall, for weber
Nashville wants to win now. We want dynamic players for today, not draft picks and prospects. Even if it was fair value, which its not, that's not what we need.
The thing is tambo doesn't have the gm skill to pull off a trade off that magnitude without losing way too much. I say 1st round 2012, 1st round 2013(cause let's be honest weber isn't a kessel and is worth 2 first rounders.) And gagne. But than again edmonton is probably gunna get another top 3 pick this year, maybe 1st round 2012, 2nd round 2012 and hall, for weber
You guys way overvalue. Show me an example where any player got this much in a trade. Yes Webers good, really good in fact but no player is worth a future 40 goal scorer a top 3 pick and a 2nd rounder.
To put Webers value into context, at 7-8 million dollars an offer sheet would fetch 3 or 4 number 1 picks as compensation.
1st in 2012
1st in 2013
MPS
Klefboom
The steep price is not worth it from an Oilers stand point in a rebuild perspective.
If Weber would sign here long term I'd make that deal in a second.
Shea Weber is the exact player the Oilers need to make their dcore acceptable when healthy. Patch up that bottom pairing and its looking pretty damn good.
Whitney-Weber
Smid-Gilbert
Barker-Petry
The only problem is Nashville wants to win right now and I don't think they want to build with draft picks at this time. They're a competitive team.
they could get four 1sts through an offer sheet
why take half of that and your worst contract?
why does everyone think they will get four 1st rounder last I remember Edmonton did an offer sheet to Justin Penner and they still had all 4 of there 1st round pick?
why does everyone think they will get four 1st rounder last I remember Edmonton did an offer sheet to Justin Penner and they still had all 4 of there 1st round pick?
because its in the CBA.. anything above a certain amount nets 4 1sts round picks.. and any offer that makes NSH reject will definitely be $8 mil + .. which equals 4 1st round picks
why does everyone think they will get four 1st rounder last I remember Edmonton did an offer sheet to Justin Penner and they still had all 4 of there 1st round pick?
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Originally Posted by NoNecksCurse
because its in the CBA.. anything above a certain amount nets 4 1sts round picks.. and any offer that makes NSH reject will definitely be $8 mil + .. which equals 4 1st round picks
That, and there is a little bit of a difference between Penner and Weber.
This is such a dumb thread. Weber will never go to a team that is not a serious contender. Even if the Preds trade him, he would never resign with the Oilers and they would forfeit draft picks after somebody offer sheets him.
If someone offersheets Weber wouldnt the Oilers receive draft picks back? and I'm pretty sure Katz would OK a match for any offer.
Preds are not trading Webber if he is signed long term for under 7m .
That said I would not be shocked if the Oilers do something silly.
The Oilers could send a 8m 12 year deal and give up 1sts from 13-16. I just ran the numbers and they could do this even with Hall, RNH, Eberle making 5.5 per(Tavares type contract), and resigning Smyth for 3.5
because its in the CBA.. anything above a certain amount nets 4 1sts round picks.. and any offer that makes NSH reject will definitely be $8 mil + .. which equals 4 1st round picks
Not all first round picks are created equal. There is a vast difference between, say, Boston or Detroit's first round picks and Edmonton or Columbus' first round picks. Getting this years first round pick from Edmonton alone is most likely better than four picks in the 25 - 30 range. And we all know that if an offer sheet pops up, it will be a team that is in the 20 - 30 range and can give up those low picks.
