Its always a bad sign when a player is throwing hissy fits over his team's lack of success. Or at the very least not trying as hard.
Give me a Mike Peca, or Jonathan Toews, who want to be the reason a team is a winner vs. the guy who is happy to be a passenger on a winning team.
Imo this is what makes Johnny so dang impressive. Signing long term showed he wants to be the main cog in the rebirth of this franchise...and his effort on ice shows hed be willing to do it singlehandedly if need be. I'm so incredibly impressed with his effort to become a more complete player. If everyone had his drive, this team would be unstoppable..but we have guys like Buckston who is here to collect his 5 mil & retire
Use him at center next year, then move him to wing when/if Strome takes over. I think with Tavares he'd play better. Nash isn't an intense dude like Tavares. I love Nash, but thats a very loose lockerroom, no pace setters.
I seriously doubt the Isles would try to bring Carter here. Say what you will about Snow but one thing for sure is he puts alot of value in a persons character. They obviously don't go after many FA's, but just looking at the way the draft, character is very high on their list and I doubt they'd take a chance with him.
When you have to make a significant trade & then pay that player significant $, they have to be better then Jeff Carter. He's good, don't get me wrong, but he's overpaid. If he was signed for 3 years, then I say take the risk with his poor attitude. But he's signed for what 10 more years? to hell with that.
When you have to make a significant trade & then pay that player significant $, they have to be better then Jeff Carter. He's good, don't get me wrong, but he's overpaid. If he was signed for 3 years, then I say take the risk with his poor attitude. But he's signed for what 10 more years? to hell with that.
Agreed, I am not a fan of these for life type of deals. Not worth the risk
so jeff carter is 100% available, everybody still have the same consensus about this guy or what? i say what the hell, hes a big name who could start some excitement, and who knows how hed do as our second line center
so jeff carter is 100% available, everybody still have the same consensus about this guy or what? i say what the hell, hes a big name who could start some excitement, and who knows how hed do as our second line center
If all it costs me is say Nabokov who we're going to lose as a FA anyway, maybe. Im wary of that long term deal but if we're giving up very little, which essentially is whats happening, then maybe. We're going to have some nice cap space. Getting Carter and then throwing big money at Suter isnt the worst way to spend it.
If all it costs me is say Nabokov who we're going to lose as a FA anyway, maybe. Im wary of that long term deal but if we're giving up very little, which essentially is whats happening, then maybe. We're going to have some nice cap space. Getting Carter and then throwing big money at Suter isnt the worst way to spend it.
If it costs more then that then no.
I'm going to go far out on a limb and say a Nabokov for Carter trade isn't terribly likely.
Still, IMO, the injuries, the contract, a possible attitude, no trade clause (maybe preventing him from coming here in the first place)...I don't want any part of it. In a year or two, if he ever became a problem like he is in Columbus, he could be hard to get rid of. Not worth it to me.
I would like to see him as an Islander. If he has a no-trade clause and waives it to come here that would mean he would want to play for us, at least more then where he is. By many accounts, the Islanders have a good locker room attitude with some strong character guys. It might have more an effect on Jeff.
I'm going to go far out on a limb and say a Nabokov for Carter trade isn't terribly likely.
I agree. Im just saying thats the most I would give up to take back a contract like that for a player of questionable character. We already went through that once with yashin and Im not particularly fond of going through it again unless its a very low risk/high reward type scenario. Sorry if the initial post didnt convey it that clearly.
From the Columbus team I think that the Isles would be best served targeting Vermette or Prospal and as soon as possible. They have a long hard uphill battle if they are to make the playoffs and that means someone that isnt Tavares needs to generate some offense. i think both Vermette or Prospal could do that and quickly. I would guess the cost for either would be low or at least reasonable.
I like Vinny too, but we don't have to trade for him. If we really wanted him, we would wait till the off season because I believe he is a UFA this summer. I'd defo sign him to a one year contract and if he does well maybe another 2-3 years lock until he retires. He still has a bit of steam left and would be a versatile top 6 that can play top 3 if on a hot streak.
my view on it is, hes a second line center (needed) hes 27 which fits right in to our system (could help for chemistry reasons) his contract is a bit high, but to say we dont have the money to pay him is like saying wang loves the fans....but i do agree its a matter of what it takes to get him.....nabby for carter makes no sense because nabby wouldnt be what the bj's are looking for seeing as nabby is a ufa at seasons end, its like giving him away for nothing and nabby wouldnt even really help them the rest of this season
id say if carter can be had for a pick, and decent/good prospect or 2 (nino, strome, etc do not fit in this category) theres no reason those dopes in front office shouldn't pull the trigger.....but im sure theyll find a reason not too.
Looking over his stats he as 21 points in 35 games, projected his numbers would be like Rick Nash's numbers. I think on a better team he would be as good as he was with the Flyers and he was damn good with them.
Imagine him centering a line for Parenteau and Grabner. If the Isles are planning resigning Nabby and PAP, then this could be the final piece to get this team over the hump.
He is a big center, something we need, I'd be willing to give up some decent assets if they were to put Tyutin into this type of deal, then we can talk about 1st round picks.
Strome and Nino are not ready and won't be for a while, we do not attract free agents, so this might be our best way to add secondary scoring. It is a long contract but not brutal per year. Columbus is a poorly designed team, although I thought this trade was going to put them over. Isles would not be designed around Carter, he would be on his own line with a good passer and a fast skater. Nielsen would be great centering Martin and Bailey, or playing wing on that 3rd line.
Carter also plays well for laissez-faire coaches, as he did his best for John Stevens who might be similar to Cappy in non coaching style.
I am sure I will be flamed for coveting Carter but this team is going to need a Rolston replacement on the payroll next year any way.
Looking over his stats he as 21 points in 35 games, projected his numbers would be like Rick Nash's numbers. I think on a better team he would be as good as he was with the Flyers and he was damn good with them.
Imagine him centering a line for Parenteau and Grabner. If the Isles are planning resigning Nabby and PAP, then this could be the final piece to get this team over the hump.
He is a big center, something we need, I'd be willing to give up some decent assets if they were to put Tyutin into this type of deal, then we can talk about 1st round picks.
Strome and Nino are not ready and won't be for a while, we do not attract free agents, so this might be our best way to add secondary scoring. It is a long contract but not brutal per year. Columbus is a poorly designed team, although I thought this trade was going to put them over. Isles would not be designed around Carter, he would be on his own line with a good passer and a fast skater. Nielsen would be great centering Martin and Bailey, or playing wing on that 3rd line.
Carter also plays well for laissez-faire coaches, as he did his best for John Stevens who might be similar to Cappy in non coaching style.
I am sure I will be flamed for coveting Carter but this team is going to need a Rolston replacement on the payroll next year any way.
No flames.
I don't think we will see the isles acquiring players with extremely long contracts.
Isles have been burned on both the Yashin contract and the DiPietro contract.
Even Tavares,a mature ,young player with a great work ethic didn' t get a 10 yr deal.
There's no way a player with a rep for pouting and a 10 yr contract ,is being bought in.
I don't think we will see the isles acquiring players with extremely long contracts.
Isles have been burned on both the Yashin contract and the DiPietro contract.
Even Tavares,a mature ,young player with a great work ethic didn' t get a 10 yr deal.
There's no way a player with a rep for pouting and a 10 yr contract ,is being bought in.
Beyond the Yashin/Dipi contracts I really don't see Chuckles adding anything of consequence financially when he's losing out money, lost the referendum and has no place to stay in 3 years/may sell the team.
Before anyone points it out.. The contracts given out to the core are completely different than taking something of this magnitude or signing a big time free agent. The JT/Okposo/Grabner/Nielsen deals were all reasonable and completely back loaded so in the case Charles abandoning ship he hasn't really paid any significant portion of these deals.
