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01-22-2012, 01:49 PM
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When Duchene comes back, where does he play?

The guys last night on Altitude where saying that we finally have a workable NHL group and our 4 lines are very productive

We have two very good scoring lines. Lately when one is not working the other is.

Landeskog - O'Reilly - Hedjuk
Mueller - Stastny - Galiardi

We have a big and strong 3rd line who will grind the opponents to death. All of them average 6'2, 210 and they are fast.

Winnik - McClement - Jones

And our 4th line brings instant energy and have played real well as of late

Kobasew - Van Der Gulik - Mcleod

The obvious choice and only choice really, is to send down is VDG and put Duchene on the Stastny line and Galiardi centers the 4th line.

This messes with the chemistry we have gained this past month but adding Duchene to the Stastny line could be lights out and Galiardi would really improve that 4th line although DVG has done a real nice job.

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Duchene plays with Stastny and Mueller. Love Gali but I want him on the third line with Silent Jay and Winnik a truly solid checkin line that can chip in here and there.

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My first thought is that don't make these before they actually are back. Knowing the Avalanche, before Duchene is back someone gets injured. I could even bet on that.

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01-22-2012, 02:27 PM
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Too early to say right now. Gali-Staz-Mueller is working too well at the moment to break up, but who can say in another few weeks when Duchene is back?

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01-22-2012, 02:34 PM
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Looking at these Lines I have a strong feeling Jones is going to get traded. Theres just no where he fits. Either that or Galiardi goes back to the 4th line, which I dislike but it will probably be inevitable.

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Priority number 1 should be to get Hejduk going. Leave the Stastny line as is.

Gali-Staz-Mules
Jones-Dutchy-Hejduk
Lando-O'Reilly-Winnik
VDG-Jmac-Kobasew

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Hejduk-Duch-Mcleod
Mueller-Stastny-Gali
Lando-ROR-Kobasew
Winnik-Mcrib-Jones

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01-22-2012, 03:03 PM
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Hejduk-Duch-Mcleod
Mueller-Stastny-Gali
Lando-ROR-Kobasew
Winnik-Mcrib-Jones
Mcleod on the first line

Mueller-Stastny-Gali
Duchene-O'Reilly-Hejduk
Lando-McClement-Winnik
Kobasew/McGing/DVG/Jones fight on the last line

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01-22-2012, 03:04 PM
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Where he should play is back at center. Where I think Sacco will play him, LW with Stastny and Mueller.

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It helps if you dont assign rankings to lines.

And i think having a guy like cody on that line brings
some physicality and toughness as opposed to just
all skill.


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What I would like:

Mueller - Stastny - Hejduk
Duchene - O'Reilly - Landeskog
Winnik - Gali - Jones
McLeod - McClement - Kobasew

What will actually happen:

Duchene with Stastny, Gali to the 4th.

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01-22-2012, 03:41 PM
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Landeskog - O'Reilly - Hedjuk
Mueller - Stastny - Galiardi
Winnik - Duchene - Jones
Kobasew - McClement - McLeod

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01-22-2012, 04:07 PM
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Kind of continuing from my last post, I think the first thing to decide is to do you believe in 100% healthy forward pack?

If you do, then it means you trade away the extra pieces. Fill out the positions and see who is a left over. Duchene is a first line center, Stastny is a second line center, O'Reilly is a third line center, McLeod is a fourth line winger, Winnik is a third line winger, and so on. Who's the one who is left over? Use him in a trade.

If you don't, then it means that you just stuff some Galiardi in that fourth line for time being. As soon as the injury hits, "promote" him. Also don't break working combinations, whether it is two or three players.

One option that I have always liked is to have four even lines, which could mean Duchene in fourth line but if you use the lines evenly, which is a huge plus especially in the first two periods when there's no huge rush to score or defend, that saves a lot of energy for the deciding moments. Also, if you can break up the PK and PP units so that not a single forward plays both, it again saves a lot of energy. When you go to late third period or to overtime, you gain a big advantage against your tired opponents. And I really don't think it bothers forwards that they would play less minutes in the first two periods. The problem there is to find the combinations, for example, who would be the wingers for McClement so that he wouldn't kill the line?

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Mueller - Stastny - Duchene
Hejduk - O'Reilly - Landeskog
Winnik - McClement - Galiardi
McLeod - VanDG - Kobasew

Trade Jones, he's too good to play in the A but he doesn't seem to play any of these guys' roles better than they already do. Teams like Carolina, Montreal, or Dallas might be interested in him, we could try and get a 2nd round pick back, maybe package him for another underachieving winger like Andre Kostityn or Tuomo Ruutu.

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01-22-2012, 04:21 PM
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Trade Stastny and Jones for Suter at the dead line

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Put Dutchy on Stastny's RW. Ferris-SoS-Dutchy will be formidable.

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It's unfortunate that more folks don't recognize how much of Stastny and Mueller's good play is a result of Galiardi's work.

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C'mon guys.
If everyone is healthy we can't have VDG up.
Our cap-hit would be 0.116m too low.

I'd go with

Lando-O'Reilly-Jones
Gali-Staz-Mueller
Kobasew-Duchene-Hejduk
Winnik--McClement-McLeod
Porter

if 8 defensemen are used.
Of course if/when Olver is called up we could place him on Duchene's left and drop Kobasew to the 4th line RW.

This would mean either McLeod or Porter is sent down (8 defensemen)
or Elliott is sent down (14 forwards)

I want to get Duchene back to Center and with Hejduk to wake him up and start producing again.
I have heard that Jones was good with ROR last year (missed almost the entire season due to the military) so I would give that a spin, and I don't want to break up Staz's line now. Also a Winnik-McClement-McLeod/Kobasew line would be a good checking and defense-first kind of line.

You have to respect the cap-floor


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dutchy-staz-meuller
lando-radar-hejduk
galiardi-mcclement-winnik
kobasew-porter-jones (would just send down porter, but not sure that's a legitimate option)

other option would be to send elliot down (assuming wilson is healthy) and keep VDG on the 4th

if it doesn't work

gali-staz-meuller
lando-radar-duchene
winnik-mcclement-hejduk
kobasew-porter-jones


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It's unfortunate that more folks don't recognize how much of Stastny and Mueller's good play is a result of Galiardi's work.
Agreed. Gali and Staz have always had good chemistry. Why they were ever broken up is beyond me.

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The problem is Hejduk. Too soft for the third line and not scoring enough for a scoring line.

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I was lambasted yesterday for proposing.

Duchene-Stastny-Mueller
Landeskog-O'Reilly-Hejduk

But apparently I was wrong. :|

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I was lambasted yesterday for proposing.

Duchene-Stastny-Mueller
Landeskog-O'Reilly-Hejduk

But apparently I was wrong. :|
"Lambasted?" Really? Two people questioned removing Galiardi from the best line on the team right now.

No need to exaggerate always, you crazy drama queen!

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Too early to make any decisons yet, but I would guess Sacco will put Duchene with Staz and Mules.

Personally, I would like to see what a line of van der Gulik/Duchene/Hejduk could do. Put Jones with Lando and ROR.

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Personally, I would like to see what a line of van der Gulik/Duchene/Hejduk could do. Put Jones with Lando and ROR.
Actually I'd like that as well, but for that to happen someone would have to be on IR so that the cap-floor can be reached.
(VDG can't be in the line-up if everyone's healthy)

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