So wait, all I'm getting out of this conversation that a hit, no matter how high, blindsided and late it is, is not dirty unless direct contact to the head is made?
Am I correct assuming this?
And to think I was mad at Ference for being suspended 3 games for half of the **** we saw today.
While I"m not a big fan of cheapshot and fights, I hate cowardness. And Hartnell showed what kind of man he is in front of Thornton! On this, at least Lucic is not coward and stands for himself!
Daniel Paille has more guts in his pinky than that goofball Hartnell does, and a player like that ends up permeating the entire team, which is why the Flyers are never going to win a cup for the foreseeable future
Subban wins the turtle race IMO-at least Hartnell did take his gloves off and try to throw a couple of punches before he realized Thornton was going to beat him good.
Hartnell is a turtle, but nobody comes close to the Subban turtle.
the Hartnell hit on Kelly was pretty late and pretty dirty, glad that Thornton jumped Hartnell but too bad he went down so fast before getting more thoroughly punished
The issue here isn't that Hartnell is dirty or whatever, frankly I was shocked to see him with so many goals with Giroux on the team.
Hartnell on Kelly I think is being frowned upon because he didn't NEED to hit him that hard or from that angle to win the puck (it was loose and away from both Kelly and Hartnell IIRC). I'd like to see Marchand tone it down a bit and tap into the skill he has, much like what Hartnell has apparently done.
Sestito's was very late and reminiscent of Savvy and Horton's being evaluated. Easy to see why Bruins fans are pissed.
The first hit on Kampfer's hell shift was very high as well.
The most unfortunate thing tonight is that Timmy didn't fly down the ice and pound Bryzgalov's overpaid ass in. It's so frustrating to watch the Flyer's netminding problems it's painful.
And don't ever talk **** about Jack Edwards, he is a SAINT.
the Hartnell hit on Kelly was pretty late and pretty dirty, glad that Thornton jumped Hartnell but too bad he went down so fast before getting more thoroughly punished
Actually there is a time and place for everything and with a one goal lead late in the game, that was niether the time or the place for that.
The most unfortunate thing tonight is that Timmy didn't fly down the ice and pound Bryzgalov's overpaid ass in.
Thomas would have put him in a universe of hurt. Humongous big.
Bryzgalov should be getting a phone call for throwing a couple punches with the blocker on
Actually there is a time and place for everything and with a one goal lead late in the game, that was niether the time or the place for that.
You are so wrong.
Showing we are tough and physical will ALWAYS be more important than the 2 points in January.
Look at the Sabres, they were shown to be soft by Lucic and they never recovered. Allowing other teams to take liberties with our players would only lead to other players taking other liberties with other players.
The only time I would condone this team "turning the other cheek" would be in a playoff series. When you have a 4 point lead and 4 games in hand in your division and are 13 points out of 8th the 2 points mean MUCH less than imposing your will. I want this team standing up for each other, 2 points be damned.
I just deleted several posts in here for troll cleanup.
If you're not a Bruins fan, you should tread carefully and understand that you're in a Bruins forum and your opinions, no matter how valid, may not be taken well -- ESPECIALLY if you tell people to not be biased. I know, radical concept, right? Who'd ever think that Boston Bruins fans would be biased in a Boston Bruins thread in the Boston Bruins forum?
So if you are a rival fan and can't be civil and of utmost politeness, then please don't post. You have your forum, and the Bruins have this forum. Let's not stir trouble up.
Bruins fans, thank you for reporting posts and please continue to do that when these issues arise.
Man, the Globe's coverage blows. Just checked their blog to see if there were any post-game updates, but the last thing was the so-called game blog, which took Horton to task for a "typical" bad penalty, then said he wasn't playing, for reasons unknown (!) And finally said he'd been pulled from the game, "no reason given." No follow-up.
Sheesh, I was working, AND watching the Patriots, and even I could see Horton was hurting.
The issue here isn't that Hartnell is dirty or whatever, frankly I was shocked to see him with so many goals with Giroux on the team.
Hartnell on Kelly I think is being frowned upon because he didn't NEED to hit him that hard or from that angle to win the puck (it was loose and away from both Kelly and Hartnell IIRC). I'd like to see Marchand tone it down a bit and tap into the skill he has, much like what Hartnell has apparently done.
Sestito's was very late and reminiscent of Savvy and Horton's being evaluated. Easy to see why Bruins fans are pissed.
The first hit on Kampfer's hell shift was very high as well.
The most unfortunate thing tonight is that Timmy didn't fly down the ice and pound Bryzgalov's overpaid ass in. It's so frustrating to watch the Flyer's netminding problems it's painful.
And don't ever talk **** about Jack Edwards, he is a SAINT.
First off, here's hoping that Horton is okay. At first, I thought Claude might be sitting him/playing him on other lines because of the reaction after the hit. But if he's hurt, hopefully he makes a speedy recovery. Worst case, there's a nice break at week's end, so that should help.
It's tough to fault Hartnell for the hit on Kelly, when earlier in the game there was no call on Sestito's hit on Horton. Sestito took liberties, then the retaliation got his team a power play. Hartnell's thought process was probably, hey, if the refs are going to let us do whatever, why not take advantage. So when he did, what happens? He creates a power play for his team. It's really disappointing.
Sestito was out there to challenge Lucic for the hit on Rinaldo the last game and then to stir up crap because the Bruins embarrassed them on 24/7.
It's sad that every time our guys stick up for one another, the team that goons it up ends up on the man advantage. I'm proud of our guys for fighting through those last couple of PK's. I had a good feeling about the shootout. Glad Timmy stoned Wayne "You know you did, Looch!" Symmonds for the win.
I am starting to think Shahan is going to ignore this stuff. Generally Shanahan's pattern has been to give other teams free shots at Bruins and hold nobody accountable.
Ference got an elbow to the head-Torres got two more shots before the hammer.
Krejci got an elbow to the face. Subban gets nothing.
Horton gets hit on the head, leaves with a concussion-apparently it will mean nothing (but being honest here Shanahan could hold a hearing and give Sestito 20 games and the Flyers wouldn't care-doesn't affect their game any-he was called up to be a goon).
Showing we are tough and physical will ALWAYS be more important than the 2 points in January.
Look at the Sabres, they were shown to be soft by Lucic and they never recovered. Allowing other teams to take liberties with our players would only lead to other players taking other liberties with other players.
The only time I would condone this team "turning the other cheek" would be in a playoff series. When you have a 4 point lead and 4 games in hand in your division and are 13 points out of 8th the 2 points mean MUCH less than imposing your will. I want this team standing up for each other, 2 points be damned.
The smarter play is to grab him without throwing off the gloves and tell him exactly how it goes down. Fight now, fight later, or cower. Avoid the instigator.
My issue with yesterday's game....and there are many....but the main issue is why does Sestito escape a major penalty for a blindside hit? Because Horton got up?? Should he have stayed down like a little girl to get the penalty? The NHL is making calls on results not actions and that's wrong. His hit was clear cut to that "Marc Savard" rule. But really, are the Flyers gonna care that this low life AHLer gets suspended?? I don't think so. And we may have lost Horton. Great job protecting players Shanahan. It's totally working.
The smarter play is to grab him without throwing off the gloves and tell him exactly how it goes down. Fight now, fight later, or cower. Avoid the instigator.
In the heat of battle where instincts take over, that`ll never happen matt IMO
I doubt they are reviewing it. All I've read on twitter is that Ovechkin has a hearing today. No mention of Sestito.
It wasn't really worthy of being looked at. Late, high, risky, not suspended. Hartnell's hit is more deserving, however neither should garner supplemental discipline.
What the league should look at from this game is the officiating. Questionable hits followed by a traditional response should not earn the offending team a power play. Period. It's not as if the Bruins responses were particularly bad, either. Much of the game was erroneously called, and caused me to question the officiating team's integrity beyond what has already been earned by the NHL refs over my spectating career.
the Hartnell hit on Kelly was pretty late and pretty dirty, glad that Thornton jumped Hartnell but too bad he went down so fast before getting more thoroughly punished
The worst part of this hit is the grease stain Hartnell left on Kelly's sweater. The dude needs a shower and shave more than anyone else in the league...
It wasn't really worthy of being looked at. Late, high, risky, not suspended. Hartnell's hit is more deserving, however neither should garner supplemental discipline.
What the league should look at from this game is the officiating. Questionable hits followed by a traditional response should not earn the offending team a power play. Period. It's not as if the Bruins responses were particularly bad, either. Much of the game was erroneously called, and caused me to question the officiating team's integrity beyond what has already been earned by the NHL refs over my spectating career.
LOL (wakes up and puts on his tinfoil hat)
Heller... Now... ANY HIT causing injury should be reviewed. Doesnt mean anyone ones gonna get suspended or even fined. Dont be foolish now. Late,high, risky... Ummm hellerr... Hellleerrr... Thats what the NHL aka shanny has been suspending in the past Heck he even suspends someone because he thinks they should be suspended while making a clean hit...
