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01-23-2012, 11:55 AM
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Avs Assistant Coaches Scouting the Ducks?

Was at the Ducks-Avs game last night and was right behind the bench during warmups.

I have been to a ton of Avs games, and I saw something that I had never seen before. Deadmarsh and Sly were out on the bench during the warmups, and I have never seen the Avs assistant coaches out during warmups. It was even more of an oddity because they both had a few sheets of paper with a few of the Ducks names on it and what looked like a checklist of abilities, talents, gameplay styles, and other evaluation type info. Maybe this was just normal evaluation/scouting paperwork, but the two were watching the Ducks side of the ice and trying to be really non-plus about it. Sly was writing stuff on his paperwork and Deadmarsh would look over at it every so often and say something.

I did not catch any name in particular, as I only got a real good look at the papers as Deadmarsh bent Sly's paperwork to get a better look at it at one point and I saw several names all at once as he flipped through a list. (Saw Selanne, Ryan, Parros, and a few other names I did not know offhand) The rest of the time the two were holding the paperwork alot like an NFL coach holds the cheat sheet playboog things they have on the sidelines.

I don't know if the Ducks are still looking to make a shakeup move at this point, they really have been coming on strong and I would not count them out of a playoff push, but I would put money down that the two were at least looking at one or two players from the Ducks.

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Probably watching Ryan.

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01-23-2012, 12:01 PM
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Why would assistant coaches be doing it?

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Why would assistant coaches be doing it?
At this time of year you should have everyone and anyone scouting when ever possible.

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01-23-2012, 12:04 PM
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That's pretty standard game prep for assistant coaches.

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Well I can't see how watching the warm ups would indicate anything about playing style or ability?

I would hope for Colorado's sake they don't scout warm-ups or you might end up paying a premium for Parros, who I'm sure like EVERYONE else is hitting top cheese all warm up long.

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01-23-2012, 12:13 PM
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Avs can be interested in Blake, some experience to their young lineup...

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01-23-2012, 12:15 PM
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Well I can't see how watching the warm ups would indicate anything about playing style or ability?

I would hope for Colorado's sake they don't scout warm-ups or you might end up paying a premium for Parros, who I'm sure like EVERYONE else is hitting top cheese all warm up long.
I would presume they were looking at work ethic and a chance to look at on-ice chemistry/leadership at this point. Yes, you do not gain a ton of insight into a players abilities in warmups, but its not like you gain nothing from it, especially if its your only chance to see a player in person outside of a game you are coaching.

As for it being standard game prep, it might be, but the point I was trying to make is that from my experience it is not something the Avs assistant coaches regularly do...which is why it stood out to me.

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Ryan for Stastny

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As a Predators season ticket holder, I can tell you that our Asst Coaches watch every team's warmup. Not an eye on our own. And having recently seen the Avs play in Nashville, the Avs coaches did the same.

It's pretty common, SOP.

Likely nothing to see here.

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As a Predators season ticket holder, I can tell you that our Asst Coaches watch every team's warmup. Not an eye on our own. And having recently seen the Avs play in Nashville, the Avs coaches did the same.

It's pretty common, SOP.

Likely nothing to see here.
Yep, you're there looking for any line juggling you might not have seen, maybe players who are favouring some kind of injury, and other things you can exploit.

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I would presume they were looking at work ethic and a chance to look at on-ice chemistry/leadership at this point. Yes, you do not gain a ton of insight into a players abilities in warmups, but its not like you gain nothing from it, especially if its your only chance to see a player in person outside of a game you are coaching.

As for it being standard game prep, it might be, but the point I was trying to make is that from my experience it is not something the Avs assistant coaches regularly do...which is why it stood out to me.
At this time of year (especially right before the all-star break), there has to be a lot of guys nursing injuries.

Maybe they were paying close attention to how much guys were stretching out and/or favouring certain areas to get a sense of who might be a little off their game. Seeing how every point matters, it wouldn't surprise me if teams did that occasionally.

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I've seen Scott Allen of the Islanders doing this, I was at a Boston/Isles game and Allen was standing right at the opening to 202 watching the Bruins warm up and taking notes right where fans were coming in. Was going to talk to him but I knew what he was doing and did not want to bother him. Allen runs the PK and offense for the Isles so he was probably watching Rask (who was starting that night) take shots and look for weak spots, not sure?

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Was thinking the same thing.. won't happen though. It never does..

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At this time of year you should have everyone and anyone scouting when ever possible.
They should be focused on winning the game. Isn't management up in the booth, can't they do it?

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Well I can't see how watching the warm ups would indicate anything about playing style or ability?

I would hope for Colorado's sake they don't scout warm-ups or you might end up paying a premium for Parros, who I'm sure like EVERYONE else is hitting top cheese all warm up long.
I don't think Colorado wants Parros back... or Selanne.

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Probably just looking at what lines and d pairings the Ducks plan on using.

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Probably just looking at what lines and d pairings the Ducks plan on using.
This. The coaches were on the bench during warm-ups at the the Kings game on Saturday too, even Sacco was out there.

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Ryan for Stastny
I doubt that trade happens, but if Ryan were to be moved, Colorado makes a lot of sense. Colorado needs help on the wings and has depth at center. Anaheim needs centers and has depth on the wings. It's a perfect fit.

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Pierre Gauthier has been in attendance for the past 2 Ducks home games. That's a bit more interesting than the assistance coach thing.

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Pierre Gauthier has been in attendance for the past 2 Ducks home games. That's a bit more interesting than the assistance coach thing.
He was also at the Avs Kings game... Can anyone say three way?

Damnit now I want skyline

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Pretty standard stuff really. Also, Ryan for Stastny? Sign me up

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Now we have online sources and checklists saying we are going to make a trade.... terrific.

Dont want Stastny for Ryan. Stastny is overpayed and I would hate to think how much Getzlaf and Perry will get paid if we have a #2 center on our team getting paid that much.

If we move any of the Big 3 then I want Duchene. You have to pay a hefty price to get quality. That goes for both teams.

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