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Minnesota's top 4 defenseman and spare parts...

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01-23-2012, 02:38 PM
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Minnesota's top 4 defenseman and spare parts...

With the deadline fast approaching, I think Minnesota will look at continuing their rebuilding effort (Coyle, Phillips, Zucker, Granlund, Larsson, Brodin, Scandella, Bulmer as the main pieces) and sell off not only their UFAs but maybe another piece or two.

So who is available?

Forwards:
Kyle Brodziak - UFA
Brad Staubitz - UFA (please someone take this meathead!)

Defensemen:
Mike Lundin - UFA
Nick Schultz - 2 years, 3.5 million cap hit
Marek Zidlicky - 1 year, 4.0 million cap hit
Greg Zanon - UFA
Clayton Stoner - UFA

One of three goaltenders:
Niklas Backstrom (he's going to be hard to move)
Josh Harding (unrestricted free agent at the end of the year)
Matt Hackett (wouldn't like to move him but if we can extend Harding, I could see Hackett become available)

Could be available but would take a massive overpayment:

Mikko Koivu - 7 years, 6.75 million cap hit
Cal Clutterbuck - 1 year, 1.4 million cap hit
Devin Setoguchi - 2 years, 3.0 million cap hit

So what is Minnesota looking for?

Young, talented defensemen, draft picks, and prospects.


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Not to nit pick, but Koivu is signed for 7 years at that ticket, not 3...

They will not move their best player.

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01-23-2012, 02:47 PM
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What do you want from LA for Clutterbuck?



Alec Martinez + ?

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With the deadline fast approaching, I think Minnesota will look at continuing their rebuilding effort (Coyle, Phillips, Zucker, Granlund, Larsson, Brodin, Scandella, Bulmer as the main pieces) and sell off not only their UFAs but maybe another piece or two.

So who is available?

Forwards:
Kyle Brodziak - UFA
Brad Staubitz - UFA (please someone take this meathead!)

Defensemen:
Mike Lundin - UFA
Nick Schultz - 2 years, 3.5 million cap hit
Marek Zidlicky - 1 year, 4.0 million cap hit
Greg Zanon - UFA
Clayton Stoner -UFA

So what is Minnesota looking for?

Young, talented defensemen, draft picks, and prospects.
which of those d-men played quality,top 4 minutes this season?

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01-23-2012, 02:52 PM
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What do you want from LA for Clutterbuck?



Alec Martinez + ?
Doughty

Naaa, we need a defenseman...Forbort? Voynov? Hickey?

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What do you want from LA for Clutterbuck?



Alec Martinez + ?
Alec Martinez

Anze Kopitar

Drew Doughty



but we'll also throw in Staubitz and Zidlicky or Zanon

LOL

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which of those d-men played quality,top 4 minutes this season?
Zidlicky and Schultz, Zanon has in the past along with Lundin.

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Koivu and Clutterbuck (and even Seto given his age) are not getting moved, almost regardless of the offer. They're all young enough to be part of the solution both long and short term.

Zidlicky has been atrocious since returning from injury (he was mercifully healthy scratched recently), so he's a tough move. Zanon, Staubitz, and Lundin have little to no value, and even Stoner is worth maybe a 4th for the right team.

Schultz would be a nice add, but I think they'd prefer to keep him around while they transition the young guys in. But he'd be a solid addition to a contending team.

The absolute best player of the guys that might get moved is Brodziak. As a Bruins fan, I think he's a Chris Kelly type of player...good in all three zones, minimal mistakes, and the consummate 3rd line center on a winning team. For any team looking to solidify their 3rd line, he's be at the top of my list.

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How has Zanon been this season? I know hes a been a healthy scratch a few times but how is his game?

Van may have interest as a depth d-man.

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Koivu and Clutterbuck (and even Seto given his age) are not getting moved, almost regardless of the offer. They're all young enough to be part of the solution both long and short term.
Koivu most likely but I am interested in his trade value around the league.

As for Clutter, we have Bulmer, who has better hands. Clutter could be moved sooner than later.

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Zidlicky has been atrocious since returning from injury (he was mercifully healthy scratched recently), so he's a tough move.
I think he just hasn't worked out in Minnesota they wanted. Injuries haven't helped but given he's only signed for one more year, he could end up being a salary dump and Minnesota take one on themselves.

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Zanon, Staubitz, and Lundin have little to no value, and even Stoner is worth maybe a 4th for the right team.
Zanon could definitely have some value. Lundin is hard to gauge. He was good in TB but injuries have hurt him in Minnesota. Staubitz has negative value :p

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Schultz would be a nice add, but I think they'd prefer to keep him around while they transition the young guys in. But he'd be a solid addition to a contending team.
I've heard some grumblings from fans that he's had a tough time this year and we could add a nice young piece for him.

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The absolute best player of the guys that might get moved is Brodziak. As a Bruins fan, I think he's a Chris Kelly type of player...good in all three zones, minimal mistakes, and the consummate 3rd line center on a winning team. For any team looking to solidify their 3rd line, he's be at the top of my list.
Definitely but he's also a rental

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How has Zanon been this season? I know hes a been a healthy scratch a few times but how is his game?

Van may have interest as a depth d-man.
both Zanon and Zidlicky have been bad under Yeo, Zanon i think since last years trade deadline sounded like he was quite upset with GMCF not making deadline moves with koivu down.

he should rebound and be a good number 6 guy standing in front of every puck even if it hurts like a *****, he's tough honestly he needs to be moved just isn't working out here.

last game he did almost 20 min and no mistakes

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i don't get why wild need to move clutter because we have bulmer, i'd love to see them two just abuse a line. our forums would finally get some traffic.

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With the deadline fast approaching, I think Minnesota will look at continuing their rebuilding effort (Coyle, Phillips, Zucker, Granlund, Larsson, Brodin, Scandella, Bulmer as the main pieces) and sell off not only their UFAs but maybe another piece or two.

So who is available?

Forwards:
Kyle Brodziak - UFA
Brad Staubitz - UFA (please someone take this meathead!)

Defensemen:
Mike Lundin - UFA
Nick Schultz - 2 years, 3.5 million cap hit
Marek Zidlicky - 1 year, 4.0 million cap hit
Greg Zanon - UFA
Clayton Stoner - UFA

One of three goaltenders:
Niklas Backstrom (he's going to be hard to move)
Josh Harding (unrestricted free agent at the end of the year)
Matt Hackett (wouldn't like to move him but if we can extend Harding, I could see Hackett become available)

Could be available but would take a massive overpayment:

Mikko Koivu - 7 years, 6.75 million cap hit
Cal Clutterbuck - 1 year, 1.4 million cap hit
Devin Setoguchi - 2 years, 3.0 million cap hit

So what is Minnesota looking for?

Young, talented defensemen, draft picks, and prospects.
no ****ing way koivu is being moved, at best it would be a one step back one step forward for the wild, there really is nobody we could do a 1 for 1 swap that makes sense, plus we just made him the cornerstone of our franchise and him and granlund are buddies.

hackett i'm sure he could be had but he is at a threshold where he has shown amazing potential but not shown enough to garner a big deal. Wild are 99.9% better keeping him and letting him grow, someone would have to just made an over payment for the Wild to move him.

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Is Zanon able to play the right side? I would move our 4th round pick from NYI this year or next years 3rd rounder for him. Should only be a few spots difference, its just the 4th is this year and 3rd is next year.

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Clutturbuck 2 Pittsburgh

What would it take?

Kennedy?

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Does Schultz play the right side? If so, I think Vancouver would be interested in Schultz and Clutterbuck.

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Zidlicky and Schultz, Zanon has in the past along with Lundin.
since Schultz is 2 yrs from unrestriced free agency,where as Zidlicky is only 1 yr from unrestricted free agency,I'd think that Schultz would hold more appeal to Snow.

isles 2nd rounder+choice of Ness or Katic.
The Wild have gotten good use out of another small NYI draftee:Spurgeon.
I read that Katic would have been the 1st callup from Bridgeport,if he hadn't fallen awkwardly and needed shoulder surgery.He's expected to be ready to go by the start of next season's training camp.

Fans who closely follow the Sound Tigers,are reporting that Ness is having a solid rookie season.

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since Schultz is 2 yrs from unrestriced free agency,where as Zidlicky is only 1 yr from unrestricted free agency,I'd think that Schultz would hold more appeal to Snow.

isles 2nd rounder+choice of Ness or Katic.
The Wild have gotten good use out of another small NYI draftee:Spurgeon.
I read that Katic would have been the 1st callup from Bridgeport,if he hadn't fallen awkwardly and needed shoulder surgery.He's expected to be ready to go by the start of next season's training camp.

Fans who closely follow the Sound Tigers,are reporting that Ness is having a solid rookie season.

zids for 2nd and our homeboy no take backs done

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Is Zanon able to play the right side? I would move our 4th round pick from NYI this year or next years 3rd rounder for him. Should only be a few spots difference, its just the 4th is this year and 3rd is next year.
i believe he can so zannon for 4th sounds legit.

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zids for 2nd and our homeboy no take backs done
Snow doesn't trade high picks for short term pick ups.

I'm not even sure he'd move his 2nd for 2 yrs of Schultz,so I think it even less likely he move it for 1 yr of Zidlicky.

And our homeboy is Minn. native Aaron Ness?

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i don't get why wild need to move clutter because we have bulmer, i'd love to see them two just abuse a line. our forums would finally get some traffic.
It's not that we'd have to move Clutter. It's a matter of him going from "no way is anyone going to offer what we demand" to "it's realistic we'd consider fair value offers."

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What type of value would Minnesota be looking for in Schultz?

Keith Aulie interest you at all?

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The only ones I've seen play the right side, besides Zids of course, are Stoner and Lundin.

The Wild WILL NOT move Koivu, Hackett, or Clutterbuck. I can see Clutter maybe being moved a couple years from now, but not this year.

Take your pick at any of the Wild defensemen, all except Spurgeon are fair game though I'd like to see Stoner re-signed. If any team has an extra water bottle lying around we'll take it for Zids though.

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Snow doesn't trade high picks for short term pick ups.

I'm not even sure he'd move his 2nd for 2 yrs of Schultz,so I think it even less likely he move it for 1 yr of Zidlicky.

And our homeboy is Minn. native Aaron Ness?
Yeah ness is our homeboy

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If Clutterbuck was available for young defenseman, you have to believe Dean Lombardi would give you guys a call. We have quite a few young puck moving dman that could be moved. Right now, we have three that look to be a part of our core and most likely none will be moved for the foreseeable future and they are Doughty, Johnson, and Voynov.

Martinez has shown he is more than capable of being a top 4, puck mover who is average in his own zone and ever improving. He's young and not playing any games right now due to no room and he deserves ice time but won't get it here. A deal centered around Martinez and picks for Clutterbuck would be nice.

If Brodziak could play wing, I would love to get him too/instead of Clutter since I doubt he'd be traded

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