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01-24-2012, 01:26 AM
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1) Kariya-Sakic-Selanne 2) Tanguay-Forsberg-Hejduk

Why was the 03-04 avs offense a fail? Probably the most stacked top 6 you will ever see on paper, but it was a failure amd didnt work out. Anyone remember why?

I do know kariya got injured and selanne wasnt fitting in, he was even playing on the 3rd line with riku hahl at times.

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Why was the 03-04 avs offense a fail? Probably the most stacked top 6 you will ever see on paper, but it was a failure amd didnt work out. Anyone remember why?
Because Peter Forsberg missed over half of the season and Teemu Selanne had degenerative knee problems that HOH has retconned out of existence so as to remove credit from his career in All-Time conversations?

But Alex Tanguay was incredible.

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Well, you can basically remove Forsberg, Selanne and Kariya from that group. Then tell me if it's really a stacked offense. After that you have Sakic, Tanguay and Hejduk who combined for nearly 250 points.

Outside of the only offensive threats were Blake, Konowalchuk and Liles.

Pretty sad.

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I do know kariya got injured and selanne wasnt fitting in, he was even playing on the 3rd line with riku hahl at times.
Salami sure wasn't "fitting in" as his knee was so busted that he should not imo have played at all. Selanne was already getting worse at San Jose, but he wanted to pursue the Cup (and play again with Kariya), so he signed with Colorado instead of taking a year off. Perhaps selfish, but then again, nobody forced any team to sign him.

Yes, in the paper only, Avs 03-04 probably had the most stacked offensive lines of the 0-decade. Healthy Forsberg, healthy Selanne and healthy Kariya along with Sakic, Hejduk and Tanguay should have ripped the league apart. But that's only speculation. There is not that much grit and some previous dream combinations like Gretzky-Hull, Bure-Mogilny etc. were not that special even when the players were healthy.

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As a Red Wings fan, I figured the offseason signing of Kariya-Selanne was pretty much an automatic cup for them. Then the playoffs came around and they had an early exit due to the following factors, in no particular order:

1. Kariya/Forsberg/Selanne being injured

2. David Aebischer was no Patrick Roy

3. Head Coach Tony Granato

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As a Red Wings fan, I figured the offseason signing of Kariya-Selanne was pretty much an automatic cup for them. Then the playoffs came around and they had an early exit due to the following factors, in no particular order:

1. Kariya/Forsberg/Selanne being injured

2. David Aebischer was no Patrick Roy

3. Head Coach Tony Granato
I'd actually put their lack of offensive depth and Evgeni Nabokov at the top of the list with a bullet. Colorado had only seven goals in the six-game series against San Jose, six of which Joe Sakic either setup or buried himself (and the only remaining goal was from first-liner Milan Hejduk). Also, it was Alex Tanguay and Rob Blake's injuries that sank the ship the most, as neither recorded a point in the series - Kariya at the very least managed an assist in his only game against the Sharks.

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